SOIL vs HYDRO

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Vonkins

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I'm thinking of growing 8 plants under a 1000 Watt hps. I'm just torn between soil or hydro. I know hydro is faster or at least I've heard it is anyway. I know with soil its slower but there's less maintenance and its not as touchy as hydro. Plus soil is cheaper, you dont have to go out and buy hoses pumps etc. Can someone please steer me in in the right direction
 
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Vonkins said:
Can someone please steer me in in the right direction
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No man nobody can help you out because you haven't told them what you expect, how much time you want to spent on gardening and if you are planning on going out of town anytime soon and so on. There is no such thing as a right system, just the right system to meet your needs. Also get it out of your head that you know anything because reading your first post I can tell you don't, you're just taking people at their words and people know shit. I can make a hydro system cheaper than dirt.
 
doc111

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Vonkins said:
I'm thinking of growing 8 plants under a 1000 Watt hps. I'm just torn between soil or hydro. I know hydro is faster or at least I've heard it is anyway. I know with soil its slower but there's less maintenance and its not as touchy as hydro. Plus soil is cheaper, you dont have to go out and buy hoses pumps etc. Can someone please steer me in in the right direction
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If you're just starting out I recommend doing soil first. As you mentioned it's more forgiving and generally cheaper. Once you've gotten the basics down, like reading your plants and so on, then make the switch to hydro. I don't think hydro is necessarily faster, perhaps in veg but doubtful it's much quicker in flower if at all. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. Happy growing! :weed:
 
Dwezelitsame

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soil is my choice its all i know

soil is most forgiveing, flush, remove all soil put new, easy to work with, correct and keep going, not even missing a step

seems - i dont know cause soil is all i know -but it seems that others have had to dump everything change chems and adjust to start all over again

and it seems that all major growers for the breeders to try and win the cups all use soil -- one askes himself why --

ther is lots of $$ to be made in the systems and the cabnets and all the extra bullshit we ar probably the most gulable customer base in history can sell weed heads anything pick up a high times do a search on papers water pipes vaporizers seeds nutes grow equipment grow tents and the list goes on for days we buy it all
 
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If soil is more forgiving then why do I see so many shitty soil grows all over the net?

Please people, if you don't know don't be a parrot. Don't just keep on repeating shit on the net because you heard it. "Cawk....polly wanna cracker.....cawk.......soil is more forgiving"
 
ataxia

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Japanfreak said:
If soil is more forgiving then why do I see so many shitty soil grows all over the net?

Please people, if you don't know don't be a parrot. Don't just keep on repeating shit on the net because you heard it. "Cawk....polly wanna cracker.....cawk.......soil is more forgiving"
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How do you consider that "soil is more forgiving" is internet bullshit??? in soil you take it one plant at a time. Ask any gardener, botanist, or grandma with tomato plants.... soil is easier and requires less bells and whistles. ESPECIALLY if your a new grower
 
brick20

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i been wanting to go hydro for a while now but every possible angle i look at(in terms of operating) i see that if u grow on a large scale soil is much easier and cheaper...
 
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ataxia said:
How do you consider that "soil is more forgiving" is internet bullshit??? in soil you take it one plant at a time. Ask any gardener, botanist, or grandma with tomato plants.... soil is easier and requires less bells and whistles. ESPECIALLY if your a new grower
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Well said... Some people say never to re-use soil...
But i keep my area clean and can reuse soil twice with no problem...
 
theexpress

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ataxia said:
How do you consider that "soil is more forgiving" is internet bullshit??? in soil you take it one plant at a time. Ask any gardener, botanist, or grandma with tomato plants.... soil is easier and requires less bells and whistles. ESPECIALLY if your a new grower
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soil is more forgiving.. if your power goes out your not fucked with soil has you are with most hydro setups... especially dwc! if you fuck something up in your rez. that will fuck up all your plants... much more work with hydro monitering ph, ppm ect. while soil is laboring in that you have to spend extra time watering one by one... but i dont mind that at all.. i love this shit...

ive never had any issue in soil
 
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ataxia said:
How do you consider that "soil is more forgiving" is internet bullshit??? in soil you take it one plant at a time. Ask any gardener, botanist, or grandma with tomato plants.... soil is easier and requires less bells and whistles. ESPECIALLY if your a new grower
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No it doesn't. All you need for hydro is perlite and a bucket and nutes. Of course you can make it a lot harder if you want to, you can make a full fledge aeroponic garden with automatic top-offs and constant read meters and so on, but all you really need is perlite and a bucket.
 
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theexpress said:
soil is more forgiving.. if your power goes out your not fucked with soil has you are with most hydro setups... especially dwc! if you fuck something up in your rez. that will fuck up all your plants... much more work with hydro monitering ph, ppm ect. while soil is laboring in that you have to spend extra time watering one by one... but i dont mind that at all.. i love this shit...

ive never had any issue in soil
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I've never had any issues in hydro. I mix my nutes and dump them in once a week. No monitering, no pH, no ppm.
 
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Tell you what thread started, read this thread https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/386008-idiots-guide-hempy.html and if you decide to go hydro I can teach you everything you need to know in a few posts. Hydro done the easy way is far more forgiving and easier than soil, but a lot of people don't know that, they really don't, won't stop them from giving opinions though, they say, "I've never grown in hydro but it's hard and unforgiving" Bullshit.
 
ataxia

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Japanfreak said:
No it doesn't. All you need for hydro is perlite and a bucket and nutes. Of course you can make it a lot harder if you want to, you can make a full fledge aeroponic garden with automatic top-offs and constant read meters and so on, but all you really need is perlite and a bucket.
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dude hempy buckets are a different story. I know nothing about hydro. and i checked your grow and it's good shit. But I don't see how you can argue that hydro is easier than soil. I plan on trying hydro at some point through way of hempy buckets first because "they are more forgiving" than a DWC or aero system.
 
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anonymuss said:
whatever u do dont buy cheap soil. it will destroy ur shit.
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Right? Look at all the threads of people who have problems with cheap soil, bad soil, hot spots, nutes in soil. Soil or hydro done right and with knowledge are easy but many people can fuck up either.

pot board members are 90% parrots just repeating shit they've heard.
 
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ataxia said:
dude hempy buckets are a different story. I know nothing about hydro. and i checked your grow and it's good shit. But I don't see how you can argue that hydro is easier than soil. I plan on trying hydro at some point through way of hempy buckets first because "they are more forgiving" than a DWC or aero system.
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Hempy buckets are hydro, just like any other hydro. You can make hydro easy or hard, your choice.

You'll hear people say, "Shit goes wrong in hydro fast," but the other side of the coin is "Shit gets better quicker in hydro."

More people grow hydro, more failed hydro grows. Plenty of beginners in soil fuck up to, just less of them so it doesn't seem that way to you. Take a look in the sick plant section, most threads and the biggest problems seem to be plants in soil to me and when there is a problem usually the soil guys don'T have a clue what's going on.
 
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