SOMEONE PLEASEE HELP! tall & spindly seedling

GANJGUY420

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A great topping method to acheive 4 tops yeah thats right 4 tops!!! Wait till you have about 5-6 nodes then go down to the second node clostest to the ground and about cut about cm above the node. If ya want 2 tops then cut a cm above the first one clostest to the ground. The reaction is within 24 hours. Have funn!! ONE LOVE!!!
 

*BUDS

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That 400 watt statement is untrue sir. Every aspect that plays a part in your grow room will cause to the effect. I would suggest for somebody starting out not to blow more money than they have to. Say you use a 150 watt hps using top of the line Advanced Nutrients with a custom soil blend using larger pots 4 to 5 gallon. You will be very suprised on your results just by proper timing of feeds in your grow room and yes that means a central main cola (ONE BIG NUGGET) lol its great
believe me from exp you will harvest 5x the bud wieght with say a 600hps compared to fluros ,there's no competition.As for wasting money they cost about $180 and he will make that back 100 fold in a year. But you stick with fluros and your 'advanced' nutrients and see how ya go.
 

Medi 1

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holly crap. confuse the enw guy or what. and foirst off dont waste your money oin advanced. its not diff than anyone elses for the most part but always more money. and stay away form conversions, they are week. just keep doin what youve been doin. your getting to much poop thrown out here
 

budsmoker247

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yea, im good on the light end anyway. doin the veg under the cfls and when it comes time to flower i have a 600w hps for that, lol. and yess, i will be posting more pictures as soon as the wife gets home with the camera.
 

budsmoker247

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holly crap. confuse the enw guy or what. and foirst off dont waste your money oin advanced. its not diff than anyone elses for the most part but always more money. and stay away form conversions, they are week. just keep doin what youve been doin. your getting to much poop thrown out here
haha, and yes very much so on the confusion. i logged in and was like wtf? had to go back 2 days in posts just to find out what was going on, lol. And yea, im pretty much just gonna let her run her course now. i mean anything i can do to make her bigger i will. but, im not too worried about runnin out & buyin special stuff less i actually need it. she seems to be doin quite well and doubleing in size like every second day so.. but will update you guys with some more pics soon.
 

budsmoker247

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shitt, didn't mean to post a pic of my christmas tree, haha. although would be nice if my plant looked like that :P
 

budsmoker247

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http://ledneonlight.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=196&zenid=304754f1f3c4ea661329611f1ce0fd01

K, so im just doing some research into some different kinds of lighting for later on in the grow. I know 6500k is the way to go so im just wondering what you guy's think of this stuff here just to put a ring around the inside of the pot just to light the undersides of the plant. Its 6500k and you can buy it by the foot for 18.99$ so im thinking like 2 feet per pot and just wrap it around the inside and lay it on the soil.
(When it's not wet of course) What do you guys think? would it help her grow at all?
 

Medi 1

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dont waste the money. wont do shit for ya. they are just week reg led`s. plant wont even see it with a bright hid on top so is a total waste
 

budsmoker247

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yea, i was kinda thinkin that as i couldnt find a wattage, just 24volt 6500k. is there any kind of small lights you'd recomend? im just thinking a little light on the underside of her might make her bush out a bit more.
 

Medi 1

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just more cfl`s. smaller wattages and more of em to get more spread of light since you only get a couple inches of useable light from them
 

budsmoker247

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K so, i was just in checking her all out and she's doing really well. lots of new growth, stem is thickening up nicely. But, now im kinda worried here. I didnt have much for water run off for such a small space so i've been using a bowl roughly about the same size as the 1 gallon pot. Soo, being a dumbass i forgot to dump out the water in the bowl for the last bit and it built up. Now im seeing one single root coming out the middle drainage hole in the pot. I can't see it while it's in the bowl but im assuming the root is emerged in the water. What do i do here? do i just dump out the water and continue on or do i leave the water in it now? Or do i now have to re-transplant into another bigger bucket?
 

Sunshine Closet

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K so, i was just in checking her all out and she's doing really well. lots of new growth, stem is thickening up nicely. But, now im kinda worried here. I didnt have much for water run off for such a small space so i've been using a bowl roughly about the same size as the 1 gallon pot. Soo, being a dumbass i forgot to dump out the water in the bowl for the last bit and it built up. Now im seeing one single root coming out the middle drainage hole in the pot. I can't see it while it's in the bowl but im assuming the root is emerged in the water. What do i do here? do i just dump out the water and continue on or do i leave the water in it now? Or do i now have to re-transplant into another bigger bucket?
You probably don't want it sitting in water. Why not just take the cup/bucket/pot out of the grow area and put it into a sink or the tub when you water it. Or just put a towel under it to catch the runoff? A small cup like that will drain for a few minutes tops.

If you see roots coming out of the drain holes then it may or may not be rootbound. Normally in a party cup they can be bigger than that plant, but on the other hand when you first planted it you didn't put much soil in so it didn't have much growing space. Even though you filled the cup the rest of the way up, you pretty much just covered the stem which over time will grow roots out of it, but as of now I'd say there's still very little or no roots in the additional soil you added.

Long story short, get it out of the standing water and check to see if it's rootbound. Be careful checking it though because the whole ball of soil may crumble apart on you since there's more than likely no roots above where the seed was originally planted. If the roots that were sitting in water are dark brown and slimy then transplant regardless. If it ain't rootbound I'd leave it alone. That thing has been though enough already. Leave it alone and let it grow some.

I'm no expert or guru, this is just my opinion.
 

budsmoker247

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so what do you think though medi? do you think i should leave the water in the bowl now or do i dump it? i havn't dumped it yet cause i was waiting to hear back from someone with experience. but, would it end up with root rot if i let it go or would it just kinda end up being like half hydro/soil? i mean its more less the same concept as hydro. with hydro the roots come down into the solution anyway but i was just kinda worried that it would end up getting choked off somehow.
 
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