chuck estevez
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I see what your saying and thanks for some decent debating,instead of "my grandma uses it"
Superthrive debate...
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ThreeOneThree
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I don't know about doubling up on yield. That sounds a bit over exaggerated in my opinion. I am also new to all of this but if you seen the health of my plants you would see differently. I used no superthrive for the first week veg and started using .5mL per gal on the 2nd week which made a substantial difference in height and width measurement. They became more perky. Also noticed the bottom fan leaves were about 6 x 7in by the middle of the 2nd week. Ive used it ever since.
If you really would like to increase growth and yield you need to start from the root growth. Without many strong webbed roots you will not be able to feed the plant the nutrition it is striving for. Therefore, you may end up wasting your money on unused nutes.
Look Into:
1. Mychorrizae Products(Beneficial Bacterias proven to be found on and around tree roots that excellerate root growth and stimulation.)
2. Carbohydrate Products(I use CarboLoad by Advanced. This feeds the live bacterial microrganisms from Mychorrizae. They will strive longer with more energy to build stronger roots via producing a larger plant.)
3. Enzymes(I use Hygrozyme now, though I may be switching SensiZym. These enzymes breakdown your plant food/supplements making it easier for uptake through the roots which creates nute maximum efficiency.)
Check out OregonismXL by Aurora. Great mychorrizae =]
If you really would like to increase growth and yield you need to start from the root growth. Without many strong webbed roots you will not be able to feed the plant the nutrition it is striving for. Therefore, you may end up wasting your money on unused nutes.
Look Into:
1. Mychorrizae Products(Beneficial Bacterias proven to be found on and around tree roots that excellerate root growth and stimulation.)
2. Carbohydrate Products(I use CarboLoad by Advanced. This feeds the live bacterial microrganisms from Mychorrizae. They will strive longer with more energy to build stronger roots via producing a larger plant.)
3. Enzymes(I use Hygrozyme now, though I may be switching SensiZym. These enzymes breakdown your plant food/supplements making it easier for uptake through the roots which creates nute maximum efficiency.)
Check out OregonismXL by Aurora. Great mychorrizae =]
chuck estevez
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this one paragraph pretty much wraps it up
Auxins may help in transplanting,but Apparently suppress crown growth
- Naphthylacetic acid (NAA) is also a commonly used auxin and often the active ingredient in commercial
preparations. NAA tends to be toxic to seedling root development, as it inhibits primary root growth and
enhances lateral root growth. This latter activity may account for NAA’s success in regenerating roots of
transplanted and root-pruned trees. Like IBA, NAA apparently suppresses crown growth, which also may
redirect resources to the roots.
Auxins may help in transplanting,but Apparently suppress crown growth
dolamic
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I believe as long as intelligent conversation is going on then there is no negative side to a debate.
Once name calling and shit throwing starts up then we are no better than the primates.
Placate someone and tell them they're right; rub their ego and they'll be putty in your hands.
Old girlfriend taught me that one. Tell someone that they're wrong and back the fuck up.
Law of humans my friend, singular way is always best until the person sees the error of their ways.
Or they find a brand new way of doing; which is what makes hybrids and BBFM. (Bigger, better, faster, more.)
I'm not classifying people as being one sound mind, but patterns do exist.
Once name calling and shit throwing starts up then we are no better than the primates.
Placate someone and tell them they're right; rub their ego and they'll be putty in your hands.
Old girlfriend taught me that one. Tell someone that they're wrong and back the fuck up.
Law of humans my friend, singular way is always best until the person sees the error of their ways.
Or they find a brand new way of doing; which is what makes hybrids and BBFM. (Bigger, better, faster, more.)
I'm not classifying people as being one sound mind, but patterns do exist.
dolamic
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So it does work in VEG and unless you want Tee-Tiny buds don't use it in FLOWERING.
Sticky one sentence plz.
growingforfun
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I donno bro I got 1.8 dry pounds from one plant indoors using it. I had huge dense buds that all have outstanding effect and taste. Strain was norther lights big bud. It sure did not hurt MY plant an I was using about a oz per gallon
GandalfdaGreen
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Lateral roots extend horizontally from the primary root (radicle) and serve to anchor the plant securely into the soil. This branching of roots also contributes to water uptake, and facilitates the extraction of nutrients required for the growth and development of the plant.
Many different factors are involved in the formation of lateral roots. Regulation of root formation is tightly controlled by plant hormones such as auxin, and by the precise control of aspects of the cell cycle. Such control can be particularly useful: increased auxin levels, which help to promote lateral root development, occur when young leaf primordia form and are able to synthesise the hormone. This allows coordination of root development with leaf development, enabling a balance between carbon and nitrogen metabolism to be established.
Many different factors are involved in the formation of lateral roots. Regulation of root formation is tightly controlled by plant hormones such as auxin, and by the precise control of aspects of the cell cycle. Such control can be particularly useful: increased auxin levels, which help to promote lateral root development, occur when young leaf primordia form and are able to synthesise the hormone. This allows coordination of root development with leaf development, enabling a balance between carbon and nitrogen metabolism to be established.
BustinScales510
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You were using an oz per gallon..really? Its really concentrated. When I used it, it was at the max recommended amount @ 1ml per gallon..and that dropped the ph some. An oz per gallon would be 30ml, or 30x the rec amount.
SeeRockCity
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patlpp
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yankeegreen
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SeeRockCity
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Superthrive is a Superjoke and has NO place in my ORGANIC grow...
remember folks...this is a growth hormone...
if you have an organic grow...THIS WOULD NEGATE THAT!!
and all for what? something you can accomplish with supercropping?
I'l rather pay $0 and bend branches than give my plants another drop of that poison!!
but hey...if you want to grow MONSANTOijuana.... have fun with that!
remember folks...this is a growth hormone...
if you have an organic grow...THIS WOULD NEGATE THAT!!
and all for what? something you can accomplish with supercropping?
I'l rather pay $0 and bend branches than give my plants another drop of that poison!!
but hey...if you want to grow MONSANTOijuana.... have fun with that!
budman111
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Superthrive's main ingredient vitamin B1 for plants is a myth based on an obscure 1930's experiment that is aimed at noob mugs...
A fool and their money are soon parted...
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Garden/beware.htm
A fool and their money are soon parted...
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Garden/beware.htm
chuck estevez
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We have already figured this out,thanks to DANKSWAG. B-1 and thiamine are not necessary as it's the auxins(rooting hormone) that are good. From your link.
The bottom line: While root stimulator products are not necessary for transplant success, if you do use one, make sure it contains a rooting hormone and fertilizer rather than just vitamin B1. The vitamin B1 is for marketing purposes rather than actual effect.
But yeah, I STILL wouldn't use it. Just the labeling is enough to not use it.
growingforfun
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You guys are funny 
thanks for the compliments tho its the best when people think its a lie or a joke. The grow compleated at the beginning of this month, I had a grow journal on it, thread was called scrog overkill. Yes I really did yeild nearly 2 dry pounds, yea I really did use that much ST, no I don't watch my PH. the plant was pretty fucking big as you can see in the thread , I think I posted a million pictures
thanks for the compliments tho its the best when people think its a lie or a joke. The grow compleated at the beginning of this month, I had a grow journal on it, thread was called scrog overkill. Yes I really did yeild nearly 2 dry pounds, yea I really did use that much ST, no I don't watch my PH. the plant was pretty fucking big as you can see in the thread , I think I posted a million picturesgrowingforfun
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I got a 8 inch dick an make my girl scream so maybe you have fun playtime too, but I have pictures of my beast of a plant , an the girl I fuck happens to be in one of the pics too. Hot damn maybe you shoulda said you fuck like gff.Yea, and I got a 10" d**k and can Fuc* like Sting.
ricky1lung
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Me too! Some girls like it that thick.
lmfao.