**tall thin pots or short wide pots**

bk78

bk78

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55OG said:
What I read here recently is a description of how their root system grows and the side shooting roots will grow capillaries which are responsible for up taking nutes and water. Usually any plant whatever kind of plant it may be will grow in hieght a percentage of the length of the tap root. Wider less deep pots will have to be watered more but my thinking is there might be less chance of over watering or hot spots with in the soil if using potting soil.
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Welcome new member who just joined today and is on his first grow.

Wealth of knowledge you are already I see :)
 
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I always research everything sometimes to the point I get aggregated from so many different facts or stories and such. I grow a garden every yr with tomatoes bell peppers cucumbers and jalapeno so growing plants in general I do have experience in. I figured since I like growing stuff instead of buying street weed here in Texas I would grow my own for medical and recreational as I am on disability from spine issues from a fall. This way I can have good stuff for my own medical purposes.
 
Rocket Soul

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55OG said:
I always research everything sometimes to the point I get aggregated from so many different facts or stories and such. I grow a garden every yr with tomatoes bell peppers cucumbers and jalapeno so growing plants in general I do have experience in. I figured since I like growing stuff instead of buying street weed here in Texas I would grow my own for medical and recreational as I am on disability from spine issues from a fall. This way I can have good stuff for my own medical purposes.
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You may wanna look into perched water table and what it means to cannabis and watering. Gist of it: you water your pot and independently of wide or narrow there is going to an area at the bottom of the pot a slight bit too wet for your roots. Its height is relative to the substrate you use, let's say for example it's 2". If you're in a wide pot 2" might be half the substrate having an undesirable amount of water, messing with your roots. If you're in a tall and narrow pot the the bottom 2" is much less substrate, more of your plant will be in ideal waterlevel substrate. This is why you see some pro pots having the bottom "spiky" with indentations. And if you wanna go master class go look at the ppk designs, there's a bunch of threads on icmag forum.

What you say about roots is correct but not always applicable: nutrients tend to Be mostly available around the ground surface in nature and plants adapt by having alot of nutrient roots around the surface. But if you water in your nutes to your substrate then this doesn't really apply.
 
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oill

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mainliner said:
i hope this isn't a stupid question, but im limited to height space at the moment, and are wondering if it would be better to get a short wide pot instead of a tall one , i know roots grow down but they also grow out as well just filling there space,?
i don't exactly know the science of the root
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In my experience tall thin pots grow tall thin plants.
 
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Rocket Soul said:
You may wanna look into perched water table and what it means to cannabis and watering. Gist of it: you water your pot and independently of wide or narrow there is going to an area at the bottom of the pot a slight bit too wet for your roots. Its height is relative to the substrate you use, let's say for example it's 2". If you're in a wide pot 2" might be half the substrate having an undesirable amount of water, messing with your roots. If you're in a tall and narrow pot the the bottom 2" is much less substrate, more of your plant will be in ideal waterlevel substrate. This is why you see some pro pots having the bottom "spiky" with indentations. And if you wanna go master class go look at the ppk designs, there's a bunch of threads on icmag forum.

What you say about roots is correct but not always applicable: nutrients tend to Be mostly available around the ground surface in nature and plants adapt by having alot of nutrient roots around the surface. But if you water in your nutes to your substrate then this doesn't really apply.
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I can understand that cause every yr when I pull up my tomatoe plants outside their root steucture only goes down about 8 inches and the root clusters are pretty wide but not as deep as I had figured
 
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55OG said:
I can understand that cause every yr when I pull up my tomatoe plants outside their root steucture only goes down about 8 inches and the root clusters are pretty wide but not as deep as I had figured
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I read up on the perched stuff but hopefully I shouldn't have any issues since I am using smart pot with drainage holes in the bottom and it sits in a saucer with pea gravel in it so any extra water drainage won't allow the bottom of the pot sitting in water
 
Rocket Soul

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55OG said:
I read up on the perched stuff but hopefully I shouldn't have any issues since I am using smart pot with drainage holes in the bottom and it sits in a saucer with pea gravel in it so any extra water drainage won't allow the bottom of the pot sitting in water
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It's not so much about drainage as it is about the natural tendency of the substrate to attract water. You'll have the same perched water level in a smart pot as a normal pot, but the smart pot will dry a bit faster due to air evaporation.
 
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bk78 said:
Welcome new member who just joined today and is on his first grow.

Wealth of knowledge you are already I see :)
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This yr I learned a valuable lesson. Last yr I had about 8 more tomato plants than I grew this yr and last yr I was always out their pruning them pinching off the suckers. I have produced more fruit this yr than I did last yr with alot more plants and because of rain and mosquitoes I haven't pruned or did much with the tomato plants this yr. Sometimes less pruning and such can have better results
 
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Phatlewtz said:
Personally have height restrictions in a few of my spots, so I've made them sog spots using dishpans.....but thats not the point :) I've found wider is often better as its a more stable base, obviously it will still need to be deep enough to hold enough growing medium aswell..
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I agree with wider is better that gives roots more free space in a narrow pot it would be like putting 5 football players in a Chevy volt
 
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oill said:
In my experience tall thin pots grow tall thin plants.
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I know this is an old thread. But I've been seeing a lot of these lately. I agree. Wider pots grow wider plants in general. Of course you can LST and all that to make them wider though. But if you put them in a bigger pot they will want to get wider before they focus a lot on growing upwards.

At least in soil. I don't know much about hydro.
 
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mainliner said:
i hope this isn't a stupid question, but im limited to height space at the moment, and are wondering if it would be better to get a short wide pot instead of a tall one , i know roots grow down but they also grow out as well just filling there space,?
i don't exactly know the science of the root
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I just thought of something also with shorter wider pots the heat from your grow lights may dry the medium out quicker which wouldn't be a bad thing if you happen to over water a little bit.
 
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