the DOW hasn't gained a point in 18 months now

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hotrodharley said:
All that said I’ll still take the Democrats any day over the fucking slimy Republican Party. They just flat stopped pretending. And yet morons still back them. Junk 1995 Chevy truck with Trump stickers on it.
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Indeed, they're now so sure of themselves that they feel no need to hide what they're doing anymore. They believe they have an invincible hold on power.

Trump's excesses are going to break this country, one way or another.
 
TacoMac said:
More construction workers die each year than military personnel.

In fact, the military doesn't even make the top 10 when it comes to dying on the job.
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actually clerks at convenience stores top the list for on the job fatality rates. followed by fire fighters and truck drivers. drivers did top the list one year but convenience store clerks are more likely to get shot on the job than anyone else including military personnel. we have a volunteer army so those solders volunteered to murder woman and children and sacrifice their own lives on the alter of corporate greed
 
Fogdog said:
It is naive to say that Republicans and Democrats are even close in terms of their actions against common people.
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I didn’t say ACTIONS. I said directly about the controlling and their greed. The conservatives have claimed for years that the party uses programs and giveaways to lure voters. What many see as justified or necessary assistance is seen by others as pandering. Bringing it home to collect the votes.
 
mauricem00 said:
actually clerks at convenience stores top the list for on the job fatality rates. followed by fire fighters and truck drivers. drivers did top the list one year but convenience store clerks are more likely to get shot on the job than anyone else including military personnel. we have a volunteer army so those solders volunteered to murder woman and children and sacrifice their own lives on the alter of corporate greed
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no they didn't

Most are economic refugees.
 
Fogdog said:
Isn't what people do more important than what you suspect they think?

How can you say you know what they are thinking anyway?
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I don’t consider tossing occasional bones as policy. Sorry. Please educate me as to their last major legislation that benefits the people without benefiting the wealthy even more. You’re living in the past just like Trump. Dreaming of a time that will never be repeated.
 
hotrodharley said:
I don’t consider tossing occasional bones as policy. Sorry. Please educate me as to their last major legislation that benefits the people without benefiting the wealthy even more. You’re living in the past just like Trump. Dreaming of a time that will never be repeated.
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The first year of the Trump and Republican controlled government, they tried to do away with the ACA, medicare, medicaid and social security as we know them. So, no. Republicans and Democrats are not the same. Their attacks on public education is completely opposite of what Democrats endorse. The anti-union stance of Republicans is also a differentiator. Not to mention what Republicans propose we not do about climate change. The list goes on and on.

Not even close. Not even a bone-sized difference.

What you are repeating is propaganda promoted by the right to confuse people with weak minds. By your example it is effective too.
 
hotrodharley said:
I don’t consider tossing occasional bones as policy. Sorry. Please educate me as to their last major legislation that benefits the people without benefiting the wealthy even more. You’re living in the past just like Trump. Dreaming of a time that will never be repeated.
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Why not spend more time aiming to be one of the wealthy instead of waiting for the government to make your path easier than the one they had to take? It doesn't matter who is in office, ten bucks per day, dude.
 
homebrewer said:
It doesn't matter who is in office, ten bucks per day, dude.
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Dumbest post ever.

If you graduated from college at 25 and invested 10 dollars per day every day for the next 42 years until you retired at age 67 with a guaranteed return of 5% and never had any sort of recession (which is never going to happen) you would only have right at 500,000 dollars.

Stop posting complete bullshit.
 
TacoMac said:
Dumbest post ever.

If you graduated from college at 25 and invested 10 dollars per day every day for the next 42 years until you retired at age 67 with a guaranteed return of 5% and never had any sort of recession (which is never going to happen) you would only have right at 500,000 dollars.

Stop posting complete bullshit.
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First of all, who takes until the age of 25 to graduate college? Second of all, who only gets a 5% return on their investment? The average annualized total return for the S&P 500 index over the past 90 years is 9.8 percent. My figures are based on 7.7%.
 
homebrewer said:
They could be wealthy for the cost of 2 cups of coffee per day. Then again, they'd probably go spend it on liquor and lottery tickets instead. What's your excuse?
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Don’t need one, I’m wealthier than you are

Why don’t you just be as wealthy as me? Too busy chugging piss and wasting your money on transvestites to bang your ugly wife?
 
homebrewer said:
First of all, who takes until the age of 25 to graduate college? Second of all, who only gets a 5% return on their investment? The average annualized total return for the S&P 500 index over the past 90 years is 9.8 percent. My figures are based on 7.7%.
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Now you're just flat out lying and making a complete ass of yourself.

The odds of investing in ONLY the winners on the S&P are astronomical. Call any investment company and ask for a guaranteed 5% annual return, and they'll laugh at you. Add to that the roller coaster average ride the last 20 years alone, and you're just flat out wrong. A -37% average return in 2008 caused many people to jump off bridges and put bullets through their own skulls. It ruined millions of people in a single year.

Anybody that offers you a near 10% annual return is a ponzi scheme.

What's more, the typical high school student is 18 when they graduate.

That puts them at getting a 4 year degree at 22 or 23 years of age.

That gets them a masters degree at 25 to 26.

You strike me as a 22 year old that never graduated from high school that's shooting his mouth off about things he literally knows absolutely nothing about.
 
TacoMac said:
Now you're just flat out lying and making a complete ass of yourself.

The odds of investing in ONLY the winners on the S&P are astronomical. Call any investment company and ask for a guaranteed 5% annual return, and they'll laugh at you. Add to that the roller coaster average ride the last 20 years alone, and you're just flat out wrong. A -37% average return in 2008 caused many people to jump off bridges and put bullets through their own skulls. It ruined millions of people in a single year.

Anybody that offers you a near 10% annual return is a ponzi scheme.

What's more, the typical high school student is 18 when they graduate.

That puts them at getting a 4 year degree at 22 or 23 years of age.

That gets them a masters degree at 25 to 26.

You strike me as a 22 year old that never graduated from high school that's shooting his mouth off about things he literally knows absolutely nothing about.
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I can tell that you also don't invest.

Here is a free lesson: there are these funds that mimic the returns of the market. The upside is stability. The downside is that they're kind of conservative for younger investors.

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTSAX)

YTD: 13.31%
1 Year 12.70%
5 Year 11.18%
10 Year 15.34%

In regards to negative market returns, that just means that funds are on sale. It's really not that complicated. For you it might be.
 
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