the trials of donald j. trump

Fogdog

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Danger danger Will Robinson!!

I just finished listening to the phone call that Mark Meadows placed with Raffensberger in a 1 hour berating by Trump for following elections laws in Georgia, the call where he famously said "all I'm asking for is you to find 11,780 votes". I doesn't appear to me to be an official phone call, it was a campaign phone call. I'll be surprised if Meadows wins that appeal.

"Trump was joined by chief of staff Mark Meadows, trade adviser Peter Navarro, Justice Department official John Lott, law professor John C. Eastman, and attorneys Rudy Giuliani, Cleta Mitchell, Alex Kaufman, and Kurt Hilbert. Raffensperger was joined by his general counsel Ryan Germany."

The phone call was an attempt at beating down Raffensberger and Germany. It was amusing though hard to listen to through the end when Trump's voice rose to a higher pitch and he started threatening Raffensberger and Germany by telling them how serious of a crime it is to defraud an election. (ironic) Most of the time, Trump had the floor and you could hear Raffensberger getting blocked but snippets of his words were audible. When Raffensberger or Germany did manage to speak, you could tell that they were confident in their data and analysis of election results. To which Trump would claim they were either corrupt or incompetent or the people who gathered the information were.

If that's official business then having a conversation with my kid about lying to me when he said he did his homework should have been counted as time at work.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I just finished listening to the phone call that Mark Meadows placed with Raffensberger in a 1 hour berating by Trump for following elections laws in Georgia, the call where he famously said "all I'm asking for is you to find 11,780 votes". I doesn't appear to me to be an official phone call, it was a campaign phone call. I'll be surprised if Meadows wins that appeal.

"Trump was joined by chief of staff Mark Meadows, trade adviser Peter Navarro, Justice Department official John Lott, law professor John C. Eastman, and attorneys Rudy Giuliani, Cleta Mitchell, Alex Kaufman, and Kurt Hilbert. Raffensperger was joined by his general counsel Ryan Germany."

The phone call was an attempt at beating down Raffensberger and Germany. It was amusing though hard to listen to through the end when Trump's voice rose to a higher pitch and he started threatening Raffensberger and Germany by telling them how serious of a crime it is to defraud an election. (ironic) Most of the time, Trump had the floor and you could hear Raffensberger getting blocked but snippets of his words were audible. When Raffensberger or Germany did manage to speak, you could tell that they were confident in their data and analysis of election results. To which Trump would claim they were either corrupt or incompetent or the people who gathered the information were.

If that's official business then having a conversation with my kid about lying to me when he said he did his homework should have been counted as time at work.
There is no bottom to what Team P01135809 will throw at the wall to see if any sticks. They learned well from Darth Heinous.
 

printer

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I just finished listening to the phone call that Mark Meadows placed with Raffensberger in a 1 hour berating by Trump for following elections laws in Georgia, the call where he famously said "all I'm asking for is you to find 11,780 votes". I doesn't appear to me to be an official phone call, it was a campaign phone call. I'll be surprised if Meadows wins that appeal.

"Trump was joined by chief of staff Mark Meadows, trade adviser Peter Navarro, Justice Department official John Lott, law professor John C. Eastman, and attorneys Rudy Giuliani, Cleta Mitchell, Alex Kaufman, and Kurt Hilbert. Raffensperger was joined by his general counsel Ryan Germany."

The phone call was an attempt at beating down Raffensberger and Germany. It was amusing though hard to listen to through the end when Trump's voice rose to a higher pitch and he started threatening Raffensberger and Germany by telling them how serious of a crime it is to defraud an election. (ironic) Most of the time, Trump had the floor and you could hear Raffensberger getting blocked but snippets of his words were audible. When Raffensberger or Germany did manage to speak, you could tell that they were confident in their data and analysis of election results. To which Trump would claim they were either corrupt or incompetent or the people who gathered the information were.

If that's official business then having a conversation with my kid about lying to me when he said he did his homework should have been counted as time at work.
They were saving the federal election, doing their Constitutional duty. Can not help it if everybody else do not have perfect hearing.
 

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Trump dealt big loss in E. Jean Carroll defamation lawsuit
E. Jean Carroll won a partial victory in her defamation lawsuit against former President Trump on Wednesday, with the judge ruling a trial is needed only to determine how much Trump must pay the writer in damages.

In a significant blow for Trump, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled Trump defamed Carroll by making false statements with actual malice in June 2019 when she came forward with accusations that Trump sexually assaulted her years earlier.

Kaplan ruled that a jury’s May verdict in Carroll’s other lawsuit against Trump, which found him liable for the assault itself and defaming Carroll last fall, is controlling in the case.

“[T]he jury found that Mr. Trump knew that his statement that Ms. Carroll lied about him sexually assaulting her for improper and ulterior purposes was false or that he acted with reckless disregard to whether it was false,” Kaplan wrote. “Whether Mr. Trump made the 2019 statements with actual malice raises the same issue.”

A trial is set to begin in New York on Jan. 15 — the same day as the Iowa Republican caucus — and Kaplan’s ruling means the trial is only needed to consider how much Trump owes Carroll in damages.

Carroll is suing Trump for defamation over his three initial denials of her story when the longtime advice columnist came forward publicly. It comprised a written statement given to reporters, comments Trump made on the South Lawn and an interview he gave The Hill at the White House three days after the allegation was first published.

While the case was held up over immunity issues, Carroll earlier this year took Trump to trial in her second lawsuit.

That jury ultimately sided with Carroll, finding that Trump sexually abused the longtime advice columnist in a New York City department store in 1996 and defamed her in an October 2022 statement that denied her story.

Trump is actively appealing that verdict, known as Carroll II. But after it was handed down, Carroll began arguing that the verdict automatically makes Trump liable in her earlier lawsuit.

The judge on Wednesday agreed, ruling that Trump defamed Carroll when making the first two statements at issue, though he did not find Trump automatically liable for his interview with The Hill.

“We remain very confident that the Carroll II verdict will be overturned on appeal, which will render this decision moot,” said Alina Habba, Trump’s legal spokesperson who represents him in the case. “We also anticipate that the Second Circuit will stay this trial as it considers the meritorious defenses that have been raised by President Trump.”

Trump’s attorneys had argued in court filings that the substance of Trump’s 2019 statements differed from the one the jury found him liable.

“The truth or falsity of Mr. Trump’s 2019 statements therefore depends — like the truth or falsity of his 2022 statement — on whether Ms. Carroll lied about Mr. Trump sexually assaulting her,” Kaplan wrote in Wednesday’s ruling. “The jury’s finding that she did not therefore is binding in this case and precludes Mr. Trump from contesting the falsity of his 2019 statements. Mr. Trump’s contrary arguments are all unpersuasive.”

Carroll’s attorney, Roberta Kaplan, who is not related to the judge, celebrated the ruling.

“We look forward to trial limited to damages for the original defamatory statements Donald Trump made about our client E Jean Carroll in 2019,” Kaplan said in a statement.

The January trial is one of multiple the former president is scheduled to face in the coming months as he campaigns to return to the White House.

Trump is trying to delay a scheduled Oct. 2 civil fraud trial in New York. In March, he faces criminal trials in D.C. over his efforts following the 2020 election and in New York over a hush money payment. In May, he is set to go on trial in Florida over his handling of classified documents.

He also faces a criminal trial in Georgia related to the 2020 election, though a date has not yet been scheduled.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If ya wanna watch paint dry...

Here is a preview of Trump's trial on TV, these guys are the warmup act.


Watch live: Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee holds hearing in Trump election interference case
 

DIY-HP-LED

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BREAKING: Georgia judge rules in favor of Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, DENIES Kenneth Cesebro and Sydney Powell’s request to sever their cases from each other.

This is devastating news for every single one of Trump’s co-defendants, because they are terrified that being tried alongside Trump and every co-conspirator will make them more likely to all be found guilty of the serious racketeering (RICO) charges that carry lengthy prison sentences.

This swift ruling sets a VERY dangerous precedent for Trump and the rest of his codefendants. Proving that a conspiracy took place with all of them sitting in the same room — live on national television — will be a breeze for District Attorney Fani Willis once she lays out all of the evidence against every defendant, including Trump, for all of America to see.

Willis is on fire. At this pace, Trump and his fellow insurrectionists stand little chance against her — especially given the preponderance of evidence against them.
 

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Of course you are, another group of lawyers to excuse themselves?
Trump looking ‘forward’ to taking stand at trial
Former President Trump says he would “absolutely” take the stand to defend himself if asked to testify in any of his impending trials.

“That, I would do. That, I look forward to,” Trump told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Wednesday.

Trump faces charges in four separate cases across New York, Florida, Georgia and Washington, D.C.

In the Georgia case, prosecutors say they plan to call at least 150 witnesses in the sweeping election interference case involving Trump and 18 allies.

Special prosecutor Nathan Wade told a judge Wednesday that a trial would take about four months if all 19 co-defendants are tried together.

“And it’s also predicated upon whether or not, of course, the defendants elect to testify or not,” he said.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Of course you are, another group of lawyers to excuse themselves?
Trump looking ‘forward’ to taking stand at trial
Former President Trump says he would “absolutely” take the stand to defend himself if asked to testify in any of his impending trials.

“That, I would do. That, I look forward to,” Trump told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Wednesday.

Trump faces charges in four separate cases across New York, Florida, Georgia and Washington, D.C.

In the Georgia case, prosecutors say they plan to call at least 150 witnesses in the sweeping election interference case involving Trump and 18 allies.

Special prosecutor Nathan Wade told a judge Wednesday that a trial would take about four months if all 19 co-defendants are tried together.

“And it’s also predicated upon whether or not, of course, the defendants elect to testify or not,” he said.
It will add to his audience for the Georgia trial, Donald on the stand in orange coveralls ranting and perjuring himself on court TV under oath and getting cross examined too... Get popcorn for that one.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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19 indicted in Georgia and 3 set for an early trial in October, let's say ten to a dozen plead guilty for a deal and agree to testify for the state. That leaves Trump and a half dozen others to face the music after the case has been proved and all their coconspirators have been found guilty. The trial should be in two batches or maybe three, since nobody will want to be tried with Trump! If Jack convicts him first or he is held pretrial for threats etc, he will appear on Georgia court TV in orange. We will see how the court calander goes, but it will be full for Donald moving forward as legal matters absorb more of his attention, from the 14th fight which would finish him fast, to his many criminal and civil cases.

 

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Special Counsel: Trump's Comments Risk Tainting Jury Pool
Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith warned Tuesday that former President Donald Trump's "daily" statements threaten to taint a jury pool in Washington in the criminal case charging him with scheming to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

Trump's provocative comments about both Smith's team and U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan — who is presiding over the case — have been a central issue since the indictment was filed last month. Prosecutors have repeatedly signaled their concerns about the impact of Trump's social media posts and Chutkan explicitly cautioned against inflammatory remarks from Trump that could intimidate witnesses or contaminate potential jurors.

The posts continued Tuesday both before and after the latest concern flared, with Trump earlier in the day circulating a New York Post story about Chutkan on his Truth Social platform and openly mocking the idea that she could be fair in his case. Later in the evening, he issued another post in which he attacked Smith as a "deranged" prosecutor with "unchecked and insane aggression."

Tuesday's complaint from the Justice Department underscores the extent to which Trump's social media attacks are testing the patience of prosecutors and risk exposing him to sanctions from the judge, who last week set a trial date of March 4, 2024, in an effort to keep the case moving. Trump has faced admonitions in other cases, too, with a condition of his release in a separate prosecution in Atlanta being that he refrain from intimidating co-defendants, witnesses or victims in the case.

The subject surfaced again in a dispute over a motion that the Justice Department said it wanted to file under seal, with an accompanying redacted version to be filed on the public docket. Defense lawyers objected, countering that they were entitled time to review the Justice Department's filings and any proposed sealed exhibits before they could be docketed.

But prosecutors said it would untenable to take several weeks to decide whether "every ordinary filing that refers to Sensitive Materials may be docketed."

"Such a requirement would grind litigation in this case to a halt, which is particularly infeasible given the pressing matters before the Court — including the defendant’s daily extrajudicial statements that threaten to prejudice the jury pool in this case, as described in the Government’s motion," the Smith team wrote.

Chutkan set deadlines for next week for additional filings that she said may be filed under seal.

Trump faces three other prosecutions besides the federal election subversion case. He's charged with 18 other people in a state case in Atlanta with plotting to overturn the results of the 2020 election in Georgia; faces federal charges from Smith accusing him of illegally hoarding classified documents; and is accused in New York of falsifying business records in connection with a hush money payment to a porn actor.
 

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Georgia judge frets about timetable for Trump racketeering trial
A Georgia judge said Wednesday that he plans to forge ahead with an Oct. 23 trial for two of Donald Trump’s 18 co-defendants in a sprawling racketeering case stemming from the 2020 election, but he’s concerned about prosecutors’ call to bring all the defendants to trial together on such an expedited schedule.

“It just seems a bit unrealistic to think that we can handle all 19 in forty-something days,” Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee said at a hearing in Atlanta on efforts by the two Trump allies — attorneys Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro — to split their cases from the larger group.

The proceeding, which was livestreamed on YouTube, was the first significant hearing in the extraordinary case. And the scope of the case came into sharper focus as prosecutors revealed just how long they expect it to last. They said the trial of Trump and the other defendants — on charges that they conspired to subvert the 2020 election — will take about four months and feature testimony from more than 150 witnesses.

“That is our time estimate,” prosecutor Nathan Wade told McAfee, adding that the prediction didn’t include a likely lengthy process for selecting a jury.

Willis requested last month that the trial begin on March 4. But, last week, a judge in Washington, D.C. scheduled another Trump criminal trial — his federal election conspiracy case — on that date.

McAfee expressed concern Wednesday that any trial he conducts in the Georgia case could wind up being moot if one or more defendants succeed in a separate legal maneuver: their pending bids to shift the case to federal court.
A federal judge in Atlanta held a hearing last week on one of those requests, from former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who is one of the 19 charged in the state case. No ruling has been issued, but McAfee said potential appeals likely mean months of uncertainty over whether the state court proceedings are valid.

“It could potentially even be a six-month turnaround just for the 11th Circuit to come up with a decision,” said McAfee, referring to the Atlanta-based federal appeals court that would handle such appeals.

“Where does that leave us in the middle of a jury trial?” the judge asked, although he also seemed to concur that Powell and Chesebro have a right under Georgia law to have their trials start next month as they have demanded.

McAfee denied requests from Powell and Chesebro to be tried separately from one another. The judge said both will face jurors together on Oct. 23.
“We’re planning to make that Oct. 23 trial date stick,” the judge said.

He has not yet ruled, however, on when the other 17 defendants in the case will go to trial, and whether any or all of those defendants should stand trial separately from Powell and Chesebro. Lawyers for Trump have said an October trial date for Trump would not give them nearly enough time to prepare. Prosecutors said they expected to put on the same lengthy case against any defendants tried separately, raising the prospect of multiple monthslong trials.

The judge did reject claims by attorneys for both Powell and Chesebro that trying the pair side-by-side would be unfair, since they both face disparate charges that have little to no factual overlap.
Chesebro is charged for his role in crafting Trump’s strategy to send false slates of presidential electors to Congress, an effort to stoke a controversy on Jan. 6, 2021, that could have disrupted the transfer of power to Joe Biden. Powell is charged for her alleged involvement in a breach of election equipment in Georgia’s Coffee County. The two don’t know each other, their lawyers added.

A defense attorney for Chesebro portrayed prosecutors’ effort to link the varied allegations under a broad conspiracy count as dangerously thin.
“Before we know it, millions of people, literally millions of people, could’ve been charged in this conspiracy,” lawyer Scott Grubman said. “Half of the United States took some act towards electing Donald Trump. … If that were the only thing that mattered in terms of connecting these as a common conspiracy, there would be no rules of due process.”

Chesebro’s attorneys also said prosecutors clearly want Trump sitting at the table with the other defendants.
“The state wants a case against Donald Trump and all these people together. The state wants to make this case about Donald Trump,” Grubman said.

Another lawyer for Chesebro described the allegations against him as little more than “paperwork” violations and said he’d suffer by being tried alongside Powell.

“Her charges are way more provocative versus sort of the boring old charges that we have,” defense lawyer Manny Arora said.
An attorney for Powell, Brian Rafferty, also argued the two defendants should be tried separately but insisted it was his client who’d look bad by being associated with the allegations against Chesebro.

“Ms. Powell had nothing to do with most of it,” Rafferty said. “She has nothing to do with the Electoral College aspects of this. … All of my effort is going to get washed away in days or weeks of testimony perhaps about the Constitution and whether or not and under what circumstances can alternative electors can be put in place.”

Prosecutors said the distinction in the charges Powell and Chesebro face is immaterial since they’re both charged with conspiring toward the same unlawful goal: keeping Trump in power despite his defeat in the 2020 election. That racketeering conspiracy charge permits jurors to consider separate streams of evidence against all alleged co-conspirators, even if they didn’t know what others were doing, prosecutors argued.
“Anytime a person enters into a conspiracy they are liable for all of the acts against all of their co-conspirators,” prosecutor Will Wooten said. “Evidence against one is evidence against all.”

Wooten said it wasn’t surprising that all the alleged co-conspirators weren’t involved in each of the schemes to keep Trump in power.
“The conspiracy evolved,” the prosecutor said. “One thing didn’t work, so we move on to the next thing.”
 

cannabineer

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Special Counsel: Trump's Comments Risk Tainting Jury Pool
Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith warned Tuesday that former President Donald Trump's "daily" statements threaten to taint a jury pool in Washington in the criminal case charging him with scheming to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

Trump's provocative comments about both Smith's team and U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan — who is presiding over the case — have been a central issue since the indictment was filed last month. Prosecutors have repeatedly signaled their concerns about the impact of Trump's social media posts and Chutkan explicitly cautioned against inflammatory remarks from Trump that could intimidate witnesses or contaminate potential jurors.

The posts continued Tuesday both before and after the latest concern flared, with Trump earlier in the day circulating a New York Post story about Chutkan on his Truth Social platform and openly mocking the idea that she could be fair in his case. Later in the evening, he issued another post in which he attacked Smith as a "deranged" prosecutor with "unchecked and insane aggression."

Tuesday's complaint from the Justice Department underscores the extent to which Trump's social media attacks are testing the patience of prosecutors and risk exposing him to sanctions from the judge, who last week set a trial date of March 4, 2024, in an effort to keep the case moving. Trump has faced admonitions in other cases, too, with a condition of his release in a separate prosecution in Atlanta being that he refrain from intimidating co-defendants, witnesses or victims in the case.

The subject surfaced again in a dispute over a motion that the Justice Department said it wanted to file under seal, with an accompanying redacted version to be filed on the public docket. Defense lawyers objected, countering that they were entitled time to review the Justice Department's filings and any proposed sealed exhibits before they could be docketed.

But prosecutors said it would untenable to take several weeks to decide whether "every ordinary filing that refers to Sensitive Materials may be docketed."

"Such a requirement would grind litigation in this case to a halt, which is particularly infeasible given the pressing matters before the Court — including the defendant’s daily extrajudicial statements that threaten to prejudice the jury pool in this case, as described in the Government’s motion," the Smith team wrote.

Chutkan set deadlines for next week for additional filings that she said may be filed under seal.

Trump faces three other prosecutions besides the federal election subversion case. He's charged with 18 other people in a state case in Atlanta with plotting to overturn the results of the 2020 election in Georgia; faces federal charges from Smith accusing him of illegally hoarding classified documents; and is accused in New York of falsifying business records in connection with a hush money payment to a porn actor.
It mystifies me that after IF YOU GO AFTER ME I’M COMING AFTER YOU! he’s not in detention.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Georgia judge frets about timetable for Trump racketeering trial
A Georgia judge said Wednesday that he plans to forge ahead with an Oct. 23 trial for two of Donald Trump’s 18 co-defendants in a sprawling racketeering case stemming from the 2020 election, but he’s concerned about prosecutors’ call to bring all the defendants to trial together on such an expedited schedule.

“It just seems a bit unrealistic to think that we can handle all 19 in forty-something days,” Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee said at a hearing in Atlanta on efforts by the two Trump allies — attorneys Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesebro — to split their cases from the larger group.

The proceeding, which was livestreamed on YouTube, was the first significant hearing in the extraordinary case. And the scope of the case came into sharper focus as prosecutors revealed just how long they expect it to last. They said the trial of Trump and the other defendants — on charges that they conspired to subvert the 2020 election — will take about four months and feature testimony from more than 150 witnesses.

“That is our time estimate,” prosecutor Nathan Wade told McAfee, adding that the prediction didn’t include a likely lengthy process for selecting a jury.

Willis requested last month that the trial begin on March 4. But, last week, a judge in Washington, D.C. scheduled another Trump criminal trial — his federal election conspiracy case — on that date.

McAfee expressed concern Wednesday that any trial he conducts in the Georgia case could wind up being moot if one or more defendants succeed in a separate legal maneuver: their pending bids to shift the case to federal court.
A federal judge in Atlanta held a hearing last week on one of those requests, from former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who is one of the 19 charged in the state case. No ruling has been issued, but McAfee said potential appeals likely mean months of uncertainty over whether the state court proceedings are valid.

“It could potentially even be a six-month turnaround just for the 11th Circuit to come up with a decision,” said McAfee, referring to the Atlanta-based federal appeals court that would handle such appeals.

“Where does that leave us in the middle of a jury trial?” the judge asked, although he also seemed to concur that Powell and Chesebro have a right under Georgia law to have their trials start next month as they have demanded.

McAfee denied requests from Powell and Chesebro to be tried separately from one another. The judge said both will face jurors together on Oct. 23.
“We’re planning to make that Oct. 23 trial date stick,” the judge said.

He has not yet ruled, however, on when the other 17 defendants in the case will go to trial, and whether any or all of those defendants should stand trial separately from Powell and Chesebro. Lawyers for Trump have said an October trial date for Trump would not give them nearly enough time to prepare. Prosecutors said they expected to put on the same lengthy case against any defendants tried separately, raising the prospect of multiple monthslong trials.

The judge did reject claims by attorneys for both Powell and Chesebro that trying the pair side-by-side would be unfair, since they both face disparate charges that have little to no factual overlap.
Chesebro is charged for his role in crafting Trump’s strategy to send false slates of presidential electors to Congress, an effort to stoke a controversy on Jan. 6, 2021, that could have disrupted the transfer of power to Joe Biden. Powell is charged for her alleged involvement in a breach of election equipment in Georgia’s Coffee County. The two don’t know each other, their lawyers added.

A defense attorney for Chesebro portrayed prosecutors’ effort to link the varied allegations under a broad conspiracy count as dangerously thin.
“Before we know it, millions of people, literally millions of people, could’ve been charged in this conspiracy,” lawyer Scott Grubman said. “Half of the United States took some act towards electing Donald Trump. … If that were the only thing that mattered in terms of connecting these as a common conspiracy, there would be no rules of due process.”

Chesebro’s attorneys also said prosecutors clearly want Trump sitting at the table with the other defendants.
“The state wants a case against Donald Trump and all these people together. The state wants to make this case about Donald Trump,” Grubman said.

Another lawyer for Chesebro described the allegations against him as little more than “paperwork” violations and said he’d suffer by being tried alongside Powell.

“Her charges are way more provocative versus sort of the boring old charges that we have,” defense lawyer Manny Arora said.
An attorney for Powell, Brian Rafferty, also argued the two defendants should be tried separately but insisted it was his client who’d look bad by being associated with the allegations against Chesebro.

“Ms. Powell had nothing to do with most of it,” Rafferty said. “She has nothing to do with the Electoral College aspects of this. … All of my effort is going to get washed away in days or weeks of testimony perhaps about the Constitution and whether or not and under what circumstances can alternative electors can be put in place.”

Prosecutors said the distinction in the charges Powell and Chesebro face is immaterial since they’re both charged with conspiring toward the same unlawful goal: keeping Trump in power despite his defeat in the 2020 election. That racketeering conspiracy charge permits jurors to consider separate streams of evidence against all alleged co-conspirators, even if they didn’t know what others were doing, prosecutors argued.
“Anytime a person enters into a conspiracy they are liable for all of the acts against all of their co-conspirators,” prosecutor Will Wooten said. “Evidence against one is evidence against all.”

Wooten said it wasn’t surprising that all the alleged co-conspirators weren’t involved in each of the schemes to keep Trump in power.
“The conspiracy evolved,” the prosecutor said. “One thing didn’t work, so we move on to the next thing.”
If Trump is disqualified from the primaries the timing of the trial won't matter much and Jack should have him convicted this spring. Georgia appears to be going down a lot quicker than most anticipated with early trials for some where the whole scheme will be laid out on TV and the same case will be made against Trump. He is just another coconspirator there, equal to the rest and I'll bet nobody wants to be tried with him in a group! There should be about 10 guilty pleas and deals, if possible, considering the overwhelming case against them. Eastman wants in on the early trial too apparently, so he might end up with cheese and crackers. That will leave a final group that can be tried in one batch of about a half dozen or so including Trump. If the trial of the first batch goes to schedule, then they should be convicted before Christmas, the prosecution plans on calling 120 witnesses, so Fani ain't fucking around.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like the trial for the first batch could take a bit longer 150 witnesses. There will also be people who plead and cooperate, so the number who end up at trial might be reduced with 2 trials.


Katie Phang on Georgia case: Will it be one trial, 19 defendants or two different trial settings?

988 views Sep 7, 2023 #msnbc #georgia #trump
Fani Willis' criminal case against former president Donald Trump and others in Georgia saw its first televised hearing on Wednesday. The trial will be televised, so this hearing was a taste of things to come. During the hearing, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee said he would not allow Kenneth Chesebro to sever his case from Sidney Powell. Our panel of experts bring their analyses.
 
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Judge releases Fulton County grand jury report on 2020 Georgia election interference
A Georgia judge released a report Friday from the special grand jury that investigated former President Donald Trump’s actions after the 2020 election.

The document led to the Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis’s indictment on racketeering charges.

The Fulton County grand jury report released on Friday shows charging recommendations for the district attorney which included at least 30 people.

Willis eventually indicted Trump and 18 co-defendants in the case.

Read the full document here:
 

CunningCanuk

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“Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart,”
donald trump, Jan 6, 2018

Former President Trump discussed having classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence Thursday evening during an interview with Megyn Kelly, saying "I'm allowed to have these documents; I'm allowed to take these documents, classified or not classified."

Read in MSNBC: https://apple.news/AJsIdzTF3RtGRNHsGoISNUg
 

topcat

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“Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart,”
donald trump, Jan 6, 2018

Former President Trump discussed having classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence Thursday evening during an interview with Megyn Kelly, saying "I'm allowed to have these documents; I'm allowed to take these documents, classified or not classified."

Read in MSNBC: https://apple.news/AJsIdzTF3RtGRNHsGoISNUg
I know this...I don't even know that. Oh, when the writers strike ends, that will be comedy gold. :lol:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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“Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart,”
donald trump, Jan 6, 2018

Former President Trump discussed having classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence Thursday evening during an interview with Megyn Kelly, saying "I'm allowed to have these documents; I'm allowed to take these documents, classified or not classified."

Read in MSNBC: https://apple.news/AJsIdzTF3RtGRNHsGoISNUg
He is an idiot and proves it every time he opens his piehole, but he has seduced millions of America's morons and bigots. Too bad they are gonna be heart broken when he is disqualified and convicted on all counts and more to come in the future. I dunno who will freak out more when the cell door slams on his ass, Donald or his diehard fans. The death threats will reach historic volumes as Donald and his fans go all out on stochastic terrorism as he goes down. When the SCOTUS disqualifies him over the 14th, they too will be doxed and the death threats will pour in, even the FBI was receiving so many death threats they had to form a special unit for it. I don't expect too much action in front of the courthouse, even in Georgia the cops are ready to break heads, no J6s, they will shoot the fucks before that happens.
 
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