Time To Get Rid of Concealed Carry Bans?

olylifter420

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We all aint vaggies like you son,

I love my family more then myself.

You would let your family die just cause you yellow.


No, not jaundice



you talk a big game on the internet, but i bet you would have been trampling little girls to flee that theater.
 

canndo

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This entire theater shooting incident is a part of Obama's plan to take our guns away. Holms was paid to purchase the guns and the ammo and shoot all those people so that Obama could bring this incident to the fore, late in an election year so that he could run on an anti-gun campaign and finally pass a series of every restrictive laws that will remove guns from the hands of citizens. He has been working on this sort of subterfuge from the beginning of his term and this is the finaly play. The booby traps were intended to harm even more people and also destroy the evidence but the shooter had a change of heart in the end.
 

Rob Roy

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This entire theater shooting incident is a part of Obama's plan to take our guns away. Holms was paid to purchase the guns and the ammo and shoot all those people so that Obama could bring this incident to the fore, late in an election year so that he could run on an anti-gun campaign and finally pass a series of every restrictive laws that will remove guns from the hands of citizens. He has been working on this sort of subterfuge from the beginning of his term and this is the finaly play. The booby traps were intended to harm even more people and also destroy the evidence but the shooter had a change of heart in the end.
I don't think it was a conspiracy, but the "crisis" will not be wasted. Gun control people will use this incident to cry for consolidation of power. They will concentrate guns in the hands of the biggest killers, the "just doing my job" types that kill for a paycheck.
 

ginwilly

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ReAl simple even for a moron like you
Its called an amputation
Is it your stance that the entire hand goes for a biopsy? Have you not figured out yet your best course of action would be to stop trying make folks believe your spew and instead, just hope they forget it.


Histology lab eh? Why were hands amputated?

Give my love to Granny, let her know I'll pay for her ID
 

Mr Neutron

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We were trained to use a Remington .38 with only 5 bullets because we were so dang cooler and smarter than those "sand n" that we'd surprise them and take em out cold with just one bullet each as they stormed the FBO. :oops:
You used a Remington .38? Why would anyone train with an antique? Those haven't been made in over a hundred years or so.
 

canndo

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I don't think it was a conspiracy, but the "crisis" will not be wasted. Gun control people will use this incident to cry for consolidation of power. They will concentrate guns in the hands of the biggest killers, the "just doing my job" types that kill for a paycheck.

They will have every reason to use it to the hilt.


So we will see a revival of the violent movie debate, the violent movie marketing debate, the semi-automatic gun debate, the large magazine debate and of course the weapons ban debate.


What we never ever have in this country is the "true price of individual liberty" debate.

The true price of individual liberty in our country is that people die. The issue is slightly different depending on the side one is on, particularly, which set of people it is ok to allow to die.

On the left, it is ok for unborn children to die so that women have the right to do as they please with their own bodies.
On the right, it is ok for random folk to be shot and children to be killed in crossfires so that we can all excercise our right to bear arms.

Both sides think for different periods of time that it is ok for foreign children to die.

but the real point is never ever addressed, mostly because it would entail seeing things as they really are. There is lots of collateral damage associated with our rights, death is the cost of doing business in America and beyond certain limits those death tolls can never equal zero.


If we really don't like random shootings then every gun in America should be removed from private hands. Movies should be censored for violent content - all movies all the time. If we really don't like the results of abortions there should be a registry of possibly pregnant women and every miscarriage should be investigated as a prospective homicide.
 

ChesusRice

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Is it your stance that the entire hand goes for a biopsy? Have you not figured out yet your best course of action would be to stop trying make folks believe your spew and instead, just hope they forget it.


Histology lab eh? Why were hands amputated?

Give my love to Granny, let her know I'll pay for her ID

Is it your contention you know anything about a medical lab or histology?
Well obviously it is
and obviously you have your head up your ass
 

Rob Roy

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They will have every reason to use it to the hilt.


So we will see a revival of the violent movie debate, the violent movie marketing debate, the semi-automatic gun debate, the large magazine debate and of course the weapons ban debate.


What we never ever have in this country is the "true price of individual liberty" debate.

The true price of individual liberty in our country is that people die. The issue is slightly different depending on the side one is on, particularly, which set of people it is ok to allow to die.

On the left, it is ok for unborn children to die so that women have the right to do as they please with their own bodies.
On the right, it is ok for random folk to be shot and children to be killed in crossfires so that we can all excercise our right to bear arms.

Both sides think for different periods of time that it is ok for foreign children to die.

but the real point is never ever addressed, mostly because it would entail seeing things as they really are. There is lots of collateral damage associated with our rights, death is the cost of doing business in America and beyond certain limits those death tolls can never equal zero.


If we really don't like random shootings then every gun in America should be removed from private hands. Movies should be censored for violent content - all movies all the time. If we really don't like the results of abortions there should be a registry of possibly pregnant women and every miscarriage should be investigated as a prospective homicide.
Okay. If you are against violence who will enforce your rules and how will they do it? Will they initiate violence against people that wish to keep the natural right of self defense?


Removing guns from private hands, so that only government will have them? Gee governments never killed anybody huh?

The true price of individual liberty is responsibility, hold those that commit acts of aggression accountable, those that do not initiate violence should be free to be left alone.

Your analogy regarding killing children is a good reason to reject herd mentality and following a political party.
 

canndo

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Okay. If you are against violence who will enforce your rules and how will they do it? Will they initiate violence against people that wish to keep the natural right of self defense?


Removing guns from private hands, so that only government will have them? Gee governments never killed anybody huh?

The true price of individual liberty is responsibility, hold those that commit acts of aggression accountable, those that do not initiate violence should be free to be left alone.

Your analogy regarding killing children is a good reason to reject herd mentality and following a political party.

I don't think you are getting my point (everyone is against violence aren't they?). What I am saying is that the "natural right of self defense" when coupled with a right to keep and bear comes at a high price - the cost is innocent people's lives. I am willing to pay that price but I am unwilling to claim that it is anything other than reality. I am not blinded by some notion that guns are "good" or that the resulting payment is "bad". Rights cost lives. Government's kill people certainly, but in this society, your "right" to carry does not reduce the rate at which governments kill.

No sir, responsibility isi not a "price" or a "cost". lives lost is the true cost of our right to keep and bear. One can attempt to slice it differently but the fact remains. Were there no right to keep and bear in this country there would be far fewer gun deaths. At issue is truely, what is an acceptable price for that right?

I don't see why my analogy regarding killing children has anything to do with a herd mentality. If we are to insist upon our right to do as we please with our bodies then that as well comes at a cost. The parties may tout it as being something different but as with the guns, the truth is that children die as a result of that particular right and we say that is an acceptable though lamentable price.
 

ginwilly

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Is it your contention you know anything about a medical lab or histology?
Well obviously it is
and obviously you have your head up your ass
quite a corner you've backed yourself into now isn't it. You have to decide if you want people to think you are a liar or a necrophiliac mutilating scumbag who disrespects families wishes and decency laws.
 
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