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SomeGuy

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And we have the WINNERS!

It's 2"x4"x 3/16" thick aluminum bar stock. End caps and mounting tabs welded on and tapped for 1/2" NPT.

The chips, holders, lenses, wiring and driver are all mounted directly to the outside, thermally joined yet completely separate from the water (1/3 gallon!) inside. It was meant to be water resistant but this is a first whack at it and so these aren't perfect.

The chiller delivers 55 degree water, so the blocks and chips are also 55 degrees.

For extra credit, why would I go to all this trouble?

To develop an industrial, scalable, system. Incorporating all cooling done by an efficient water chiller vs fans, ac etc... probably cheaper to run also.
 

SomeGuy

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Pretty obvious lol
Max consistent light output from the led's and temp control of the environment

He's doing well now with it too. Once dialed in w all this new stuff he will be on easy street. I'm actually envious of the environmental control and the all cob setup.

Ty, you have me thinking w those shots of the whole setup. Do you diagram your room? Ground plan style? I'd love a top view and view of entire setup and machinery. Color me Impressed
 

ttystikk

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He's doing well now with it too. Once dialed in w all this new stuff he will be on easy street. I'm actually envious of the environmental control and the all cob setup.

Ty, you have me thinking w those shots of the whole setup. Do you diagram your room? Ground plan style? I'd love a top view and view of entire setup and machinery. Color me Impressed
I'm changing too much too often to keep up with drawings at this point, but as things coalesce over the next few months I should be able to do something along those lines.

Thanks, man. It's been a lot of hard work.
 

ttystikk

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Pretty obvious lol
Max consistent light output from the led's and temp control of the environment
Lol would you believe that my biggest environmental control problem is now how to ADD enough heat to keep it warm enough and continue to dehuey? LMAO!

Cold chips... let's peek down that rabbit hole a sec. Y'all of course know about thermal droop, right? Hotter chips run less efficiently, potentially even leading to runaway overheating? Well, the opposite is also true, even below the Cree test temp of 25C/77F.

I'm running my chips as much as TEN PERCENT more efficiently than those running hot passive setups, and at least FIVE PERCENT more efficiently than even the best ambient plus active cooled systems, to include CPU coolers.

And no matter what bins may come, my fixture will make your COB LED chip perform better than anyone else's at the same drive current.

Any fool can post a youtube clip of him washing his light without unplugging it first. The trick is to have a good reason to do it.

Class dismissed. :hump:
 

ttystikk

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Ty,

"tupur" what is that ?
looks like coco & perlite mixed for the buyer is all .

am I wrong , is there a secret sauce in it ?
not being an ass here , but I used coco for 20 years & I've never seen this stuff & i'm in NorCal
I don't pretend to know a lot about coco, I do not. I tried straight coco awhile ago and I was disappointed.

'Tupur royal gold' is the specific stuff, they say it has coco, perlite and compost plus some minor amendments. I got interested in it when I saw just how consistently green everything was when I visited a friend's facility. They were using brand name water bottles nutes and slaying it- 1gpw with SE HPS lighting, no less.

I've had consistency problems with my RDWC for years and while I've made lots of improvements it's still very much a dynamically unstable system- as anyone running one will attest.

I plugged my existing dry nute formula into Tupur and the results are very simply 100% consistent. Even a lil plant I thought sure was a goner coming out of the cloner made it and is now thriving.

I haven't lost any growth performance in the switch either, and vigor is better than ever. Some have suggested I just had my nutes wrong for RDWC and they may have a point, but that alone doesn't address all the problems I had before- and don't anymore.

Drown the fuck out of it and it drains to the perfect moisture level. It likes similar pH and it wants a bit higher EC. As I said, I'm running the same nutrients in the same ratios and it went from struggling to spectacular.

I'm even running ebb n flood with it in some stages and the plants are responding like gangbusters. That's a natural lead in to a transplant into a 5 gallon bucket- Tupur means 2 buckets per bag, according to some witty soul lol- and then watered from underneath, SIPS style.

Hybrid hydro, all the advantages while eliminating the shortcomings.
 

Fastslappy

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I don't pretend to know a lot about coco, I do not. I tried straight coco awhile ago and I was disappointed.

Hybrid hydro, all the advantages while eliminating the shortcomings.
copy that , I use a pumice/biochar(precharged) oyster,dio earth , hibrix rock flours + amendments mix
And now am using this mix organically now for 1st time in da G/H tit's up in there
pm if ya wanna see how & what goes into it ,don't wanna dump yer thread
 

DesertGrow89

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If u use coco ya gotta use yucca
for the most part as a wetting agent but it is a biocatalyst as well
4 yer reading
http://maximumyield.com/blog/2014/07/01/yucca-a-gardening-secret-from-the-desert/
I use the SD yucca (spray dried) powder edit that Tupur is expensive
i pay $19 a bag for premium desalted canna coco
Not sure if that guys an expert on plant nutrition or a salesman? He didn't cite any sources

"Use it generously in your root flushes and teach your plants to beat the heat." lol

We fog our outdoor plants in 100 gallon pots twice a day with NOGs yucca extract and thrivealive green or growswitch. Not sure how beneficial those products are, but the water knocks off any potential bugs and moves branches around a bit.
 

Afgan King

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Ty,

"tupur" what is that ?
looks like coco & perlite mixed for the buyer is all .

am I wrong , is there a secret sauce in it ?
not being an ass here , but I used coco for 20 years & I've never seen this stuff & i'm in NorCal
That is my doing lol it is a special mix honestly it gives you stability and buffer of soil with hydroponic growth. It's Coco, organic compost from Oregon woods, and perlite. Shits amazing seen alot of coco grows nothing works like it it's why I use it and why the company I worked for used it. It's pretty magic
 

Afgan King

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I don't pretend to know a lot about coco, I do not. I tried straight coco awhile ago and I was disappointed.

'Tupur royal gold' is the specific stuff, they say it has coco, perlite and compost plus some minor amendments. I got interested in it when I saw just how consistently green everything was when I visited a friend's facility. They were using brand name water bottles nutes and slaying it- 1gpw with SE HPS lighting, no less.

I've had consistency problems with my RDWC for years and while I've made lots of improvements it's still very much a dynamically unstable system- as anyone running one will attest.

I plugged my existing dry nute formula into Tupur and the results are very simply 100% consistent. Even a lil plant I thought sure was a goner coming out of the cloner made it and is now thriving.

I haven't lost any growth performance in the switch either, and vigor is better than ever. Some have suggested I just had my nutes wrong for RDWC and they may have a point, but that alone doesn't address all the problems I had before- and don't anymore.

Drown the fuck out of it and it drains to the perfect moisture level. It likes similar pH and it wants a bit higher EC. As I said, I'm running the same nutrients in the same ratios and it went from struggling to spectacular.

I'm even running ebb n flood with it in some stages and the plants are responding like gangbusters. That's a natural lead in to a transplant into a 5 gallon bucket- Tupur means 2 buckets per bag, according to some witty soul lol- and then watered from underneath, SIPS style.

Hybrid hydro, all the advantages while eliminating the shortcomings.
"They" lol u can use my name buddy lol
 

Fastslappy

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That is my doing lol it is a special mix honestly it gives you stability and buffer of soil with hydroponic growth. It's Coco, organic compost from Oregon woods, and perlite. Shits amazing seen alot of coco grows nothing works like it it's why I use it and why the company I worked for used it. It's pretty magic
my mix is basically that coco & compost I just add / use pumice & precharged charcoal as well
the pumice is actually easy to find ,animal & livestock feed stores sell under the name 'DryStall'
it is mined fine grade pure pumice about 1/4 to an 1/8" with some fines 100% pumice
used in horse barns to keep the horses from slipping on wet &/or hard surfaces
I get @ local feed store for $10.oo 40lb bag
Ty your in horse country
pumice holds water & releases slowly also a home for bacto life
here's a pix soo i'm not blowing smoke , my last indoor phantom cookiesIMG_20150425_112340.jpg
 
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Afgan King

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I like it I've been starting to add different things to it this time going to get a bail of hay to add to top of mine and gonna start compost tea prob every other feeding and I am using a water soluble mycos so basically trying to inoculate it as much as possible. I use canna and everyone will say it kills microbial life but I've seen mushrooms and all sorts of random lil growths in the tupur from the compost. I'm gonna keep inoculating to see if I notice a difference why I'm adding the hay to top of pots for bacteria and fungi
 

ttystikk

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If u use coco ya gotta use yucca
for the most part as a wetting agent but it is a biocatalyst as well
4 yer reading
http://maximumyield.com/blog/2014/07/01/yucca-a-gardening-secret-from-the-desert/
I use the SD yucca (spray dried) powder edit that Tupur is expensive
i pay $19 a bag for premium desalted canna coco
Oooooo I Like the yucca idea! I've been told I need an enzyme, but you have made me wonder if what I need instead is just a wetting agent, to help the SIPS move water thru the substrate.
 
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