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So genius doubles down and says fish don't need as much dissolved oxygen as plants do, lol

That's a pretty funny idea with all my trout fishing buddies!
 
Read almost all this and didn't see anything,but 1 bud.And it looks terrible for someone that comes across as
my way or no way.I prefer as do my patients good Bud,not any thing here to convince me to go vert.
I do perpetual scrogs,and don't think I will ever do another method.
Gl,with the Verts,nothing really against them,seen Heath Robinsons and it was great,but to each his own.
 
SOMEBEECH said:
Read almost all this and didn't see anything,but 1 bud.And it looks terrible for someone that comes across as
my way or no way.I prefer as do my patients good Bud,not any thing here to convince me to go vert.
I do perpetual scrogs,and don't think I will ever do another method.
Gl,with the Verts,nothing really against them,seen Heath Robinsons and it was great,but to each his own.
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How're the CMHs treating ya buddy?

I'm closer and closer everyday to making what we discussed be a reality.

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ttystikk said:
I love them, everyone who's seen them loves them, and the HPS lit room is almost finished, which will give direct comparisons for grams per watt.
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Do you use the trim for anything?

I'd be interested to see if the CMH plants will yield more overall including usable trim for hashmaking or whatnot...

All the runs I've seen with them have impressed me.

Have you noticed lower temps with them as well?

The 860w I'm imagining still throws out heat but is it comparable to another HID bulb?

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a senile fungus said:
Do you use the trim for anything?

I'd be interested to see if the CMH plants will yield more overall including usable trim for hashmaking or whatnot...

All the runs I've seen with them have impressed me.

Have you noticed lower temps with them as well?

The 860w I'm imagining still throws out heat but is it comparable to another HID bulb?

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Absolutely! If it doesn't go in a bag as product, it goes in the hash bin. Most of the trash leaves have been removed by the time the plants come down anyway.

The tech is CDM, don't ask me what the difference is between that and CMH. The yield for bho runs is over ten and touching twelve percent, that's for the mix of everything from trim to sugar leaf.

I'm improving everything in the rooms right along, so the CDM difference is not obvious just yet. The HPS room will tell us what the differences really are.

They run cooler, so plants can grow much closer to them. On the other hand, they take FOREVER to cool off enough to restart, sometimes 25 minutes isn't enough. Very strange.

They do save power and they do save a bit on chilling costs. It remains to be seen if yield suffers.
 
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Wet dry systems for salt water tanks work on same principle and can be used in fresh water fish tanks as well. The oxygen gets in at the surface of the air tension. By spreading the water out, into thin or small droplets, you super oxgenate or super saturate the water. The dissolved oxygen levels go way up. A protein skimmer does the same thing in a chamber and creates a False or artifical air water interface and increases oxygen levels. (produces a froth of protein in salt water skimming the water) It can reduce nutrient content if allowed to bubble for a long time. A good example of this type of tech in hydro is NFT or aeroponics.

Just want to say nice thread. In for results on the CMH difference. Also would like to hear more about cooling your doing on the lights. That ice cap results and how the other one a few pages back is being done.
 
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Phew. Read it all. Good stuff Tty, really good.

Do you know if there is any usable light that hits the floor, or at least below the screens? I imagine little light eminates from the tip of a bare bulb, but if it does, it could be used for a little SOG?
I'm picturing a bunch of 2l Hempys with rooted cuts from the scrap from back side of the silo.
 
Growan said:
Phew. Read it all. Good stuff Tty, really good.

Do you know if there is any usable light that hits the floor, or at least below the screens? I imagine little light eminates from the tip of a bare bulb, but if it does, it could be used for a little SOG?
I'm picturing a bunch of 2l Hempys with rooted cuts from the scrap from back side of the silo.
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I use a bit of reflective material to send light hitting the top and bottom of the silo to the outside where the plants are. This helps even up the lighting the ends receive so plants get first from the bulb light AND reflected light, almost as if they were between the bulbs.

I've heard the SOG on the floor idea before, perhaps with a truly spherical light source it would be more feasible. As it is, it use relive materials as above, and use the area directly along the centerline for mounting the bulbs.
 
Still battling mysterious rising temps. It takes all night for temps to climb into the mid 80s, but they do. Water temps in my chilling system aren't rising though. Strange...
 
cmh / cdm use a ceramic arc. which degrades far less than hps and last 3 times longer. Also able to produce a more even spetrum - high cri. Hps use an aluminum arc. Which degrades more and at a much faster rate. Cmh kills hps hands down. I used to run 2 330 all starts that replaced a 1000w hps before I started using induction and led. I kind of want to go back to cmh. I'd rather use the elit agro bulbs. They are all made by philips too.
 
Had some issues with my main breaker, and I am fortunate to have an electrician friend who can help on shirt notice. One leg of my 240V service was extremely loose, making for a poor connection and cooking the breaker with excess resistance. I'm sure that contributed to all sorts of problems, flickering CDM bulbs among them. Seriously.

I have some serious power balancing homework to do; I was going to run things as two groups powerwise and it isn't working out that way.
 
Love your inventiveness

After a long road down various aero/hydro, I returned to my roots using a simple F & D, sized for small grows using storage totes

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Power balancing wasn't the problem; running 99 amps on a 100A house main was!

Couple thousand dollars upgraded me to 150A service, plus a new panel for my op.

This is the RIGHT way to do it. Doing it the wrong way will get you a face to face meeting with a really pissed off fire station captain, the cops and probably a jail warden or two... as a bonus you'll be secure in the knowledge that everything you have is ruined- but there will still be enough evidence among the charred remains to put you away for awhile, especially if you were stupid enough to go messing with your breaker panel in a multi family dwelling (attempted murder charges due to negligence).

Long sentence. If you don't have an electrician's license and you have done ANYTHING in your panel besides reset a breaker, go back and read it again.
 
Yep. I push 80 amps max out of my 100 and that was in summer with 3 ac's and all my stuff going. now no ac's so am back to 60 amps or so. I am happy with my new breaker box. I dont know how you are running all that at only 99 amps. shit the microwave/coffee maker/fridge working at the same time could have burnt you down big time. i am happy you upgraded. i went form a 60 to 100 but when i move it will be duel 100 breaker boxes. its cheaper to do 2 100's then a 200.
 
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Yep. I push 80 amps max out of my 100 and that was in summer with 3 ac's and all my stuff going. now no ac's so am back to 60 amps or so. I am happy with my new breaker box. I dont know how you are running all that at only 99 amps. shit the microwave/coffee maker/fridge working at the same time could have burnt you down big time. i am happy you upgraded. i went form a 60 to 100 but when i move it will be duel 100 breaker boxes. its cheaper to do 2 100's then a 200.
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Lol yes, the coffeemaker and the oven popped the main breaker once or twice before I upgraded. I don't watch much tube, so that wasn't a problem.

I'm happy with the 150A upgrade. It didn't require any special permits with the city or any approvals which could be looked up later.

I still pull 99 amps, but now I have more headroom, lol
 
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