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greencropper said:

funny how Pho is pronounced..'fur'....

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Poor Vietnamese, they learned to spell from the French. No wonder everyone's so horribly confused!

Since this is exactly the chip I'm running, I shamelessly stole this post and copied it here. Thanks, @BOBBY_G ;

the equations i extrapolated from this graph and Supras charts for a 3590 3500k CD bin are:

W = Dissipation wattage
I = current
E= efficiency

W=1.2425 * I^2 + 34.214 * I - 1.6752
E=0.8948 * I^2 - 13.203 * I + 73.234

which gives

I W E
0.1 1.758625 71.92265
0.15 3.484856 71.27368
0.2 5.2173 70.62919
0.25 6.955956 69.98918
0.3 8.700825 69.35363
0.35 10.45191 68.72256
0.4 12.2092 68.09597
0.45 13.97271 67.47385
0.5 15.74243 66.8562
0.55 17.51836 66.24303
0.6 19.3005 65.63433
0.65 21.08886 65.0301
0.7 22.88343 64.43035
0.75 24.68421 63.83508
0.8 26.4912 63.24427
0.85 28.30441 62.65794
0.9 30.12383 62.07609
0.95 31.94946 61.49871
1 33.7813 60.9258
1.05 35.61936 60.35737
1.1 37.46363 59.79341
1.15 39.31411 59.23392
1.2 41.1708 58.67891
1.25 43.03371 58.12838
1.3 44.90283 57.58231
1.35 46.77816 57.04072
1.4 48.6597 56.50361
1.45 50.54746 55.97097
1.5 52.44143 55.4428
1.55 54.34161 54.91911
1.6 56.248 54.39989
1.65 58.16061 53.88514
1.7 60.07943 53.37487
1.75 62.00446 52.86908
1.8 63.9357 52.36775
1.85 65.87316 51.8709
1.9 67.81683 51.37853
1.95 69.76671 50.89063
2 71.7228 50.4072
2.05 73.68511 49.92825
2.1 75.65363 49.45377
2.15 77.62836 48.98376
2.2 79.6093 48.51823
2.25 81.59646 48.05718
2.3 83.58983 47.60059
2.35 85.58941 47.14848
2.4 87.5952 46.70085
2.45 89.60721 46.25769
2.5 91.62543 45.819
2.55 93.64986 45.38479
2.6 95.6805 44.95505
2.65 97.71736 44.52978
2.7 99.76043 44.10899

please note that was for supras particular chip. yours may perform slightly better or worse and be within same bin. say +/- 5% or so

BOBBY_G said:

please note that was for supras particular chip. yours may perform slightly better or worse and be within same bin. say +/- 5% or so

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Mine is also the CD Bin, 3500K chip. Only difference is that these equations are for 36V and my chips run at 72V, so I just cut the amps in half to read the chart.

correct. and thats the only real data we have below 1.4A (0.70 to you)

Testing, testing... is this thing on?
Ooooooh yeah-

Fill and leak check the RDWC.
Finish building the space.
Panda film on the walls.
Screw hooks for trellis panels.

We might be ready for plants today!

TTYS,

Why'd you choose 72v vs 36?

I'm about to take the plunge on the cxb 3590s.

Also, what do you use for a foliar preventative pesticide/fungicide. Do you have any experience with Zero Tolerance?

In the first few days of flower, I sprayed once with neem. Since then, things have been waiting to figure out the right process.

I'm new at this, but after getting some seeds from Botanico weed, I compared their ingriedients list to the CO MED legal ingriedient database. That's how I arrived at Zero Tolerance, among other things.

I appreciate your trees, can you give be the secret? AACTs? Some product? Black magic?

Thanks.

ACitizenofColorado said:

TTYS,

Why'd you choose 72v vs 36?

I'm about to take the plunge on the cxb 3590s.

Also, what do you use for a foliar preventative pesticide/fungicide. Do you have any experience with Zero Tolerance?

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best preventative for PM is GreenCure, its omri-listed potassium bicarbonate
keep your humidity under 50% esp at night
cool temps+ high humidity = mold city

if you take new clones from people, or have had a problem with PM in the past, get yourself some eagle 20, dip clones completely, make sure they are 90+ days away from finishing and it will be nondetectable

BOBBY_G said:

best preventative for PM is GreenCure, its omri-listed potassium bicarbonate
keep your humidity under 50% esp at night
cool temps+ high humidity = mold city

if you take new clones from people, or have had a problem with PM in the past, get yourself some eagle 20, dip clones completely, make sure they are 90+ days away from finishing and it will be nondetectable

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I've done the eagle 20 dip and it was ineffective. I don't recommend that shit anywhere near plants meant for human consumption.

SAFE stuff to foliar with that kills or slows down the dreaded PM;
Green Cure
Safer Insecticidal Soap
Potassium Silicate

These can be used in rotation or together. A fine mist sprayer helps a lot. Getting the PM wet kills it, hence the use of surfactants.

ttystikk said:

I've done the eagle 20 dip and it was ineffective.

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i used it once and it was completely gone forever. i also took everything down to just clones and dipped every one, then grew them out to moms and took clones to flower from those. so it was prob more like 120+ days thru one cloning

ACitizenofColorado said:

TTYS,

Why'd you choose 72v vs 36?

I'm about to take the plunge on the cxb 3590s.

Also, what do you use for a foliar preventative pesticide/fungicide. Do you have any experience with Zero Tolerance?

In the first few days of flower, I sprayed once with neem. Since then, things have been waiting to figure out the right process.

I'm new at this, but after getting some seeds from Botanico weed, I compared their ingriedients list to the CO MED legal ingriedient database. That's how I arrived at Zero Tolerance, among other things.

I appreciate your trees, can you give be the secret? AACTs? Some product? Black magic?

Thanks.

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Cuz the wait for 36V COBs and drivers was longer, lol

Neem and Zero tolerance are fine in veg, problematic in bloom, especially past halfway.

My trees are grown like every other plant; with time, love, light, nutes and training. No magic.

Well, there WAS that coven that blessed me and my work...

BOBBY_G said:

i used it once and it was completely gone forever. i also took everything down to just clones and dipped every one, then grew them out to moms and took clones to flower from those. so it was prob more like 120+ days thru one cloning

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We may have reinfested the dipped clones.

id say thats a given

i also cleaned everything including spraying down walls and floors with 10% bleach.

eagle20 is systemic and provides you 28 days at least to clean EVERYTHING and it shouldnt come back

Thank you both. It's under control for now. But hopefully an ounce of prevention will be worth a pound of cured.

TTY did you go through KB or cutter?

ACitizenofColorado said:

Thank you both. It's under control for now. But hopefully an ounce of prevention will be worth a pound of cured.

TTY did you go through KB or cutter?

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KB last time, next time is whoever has the chips I want at the right price.

Are you still going with the CXB 3590s? I'm about to place an order with Jerry for 4 CXB 3590 3500k 36v, 1 HLG-240-1400 or 2100, and lenses.

ACitizenofColorado said:

Are you still going with the CXB 3590s? I'm about to place an order with Jerry for 4 CXB 3590 3500k 36v, 1 HLG-240-1400 or 2100, and lenses.

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I plan to take advantage of the new higher bin but otherwise yes. I'm running 72V chips and since there's no real downside I'll stick to that standard for now. From everything I'm told, it makes exactly zero difference, you just run hlg-185h-c700 (a,b or c dimming options, I chose b).

Another option is to use -1050 drivers for 5 COBs, slightly more efficiency.

A few pics of yummy goodness coming soon;

Yes, more Hillbilly Hobby. Sue me.

ttystikk said:

A few pics of yummy goodness coming soon;
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Yes, more Hillbilly Hobby. Sue me.

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Those are fucking awesome @ttystikk

Hey buddy I am glad that eagle 20 worked for you, but its fucking poison! There are other ways....organic ways.