Ttystikk's vertical goodness
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GroErr
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There's only 3 legal ways to obtain meds here.
1) Buy from the new dealers called LP's (Licensed Producers aka big buck business) through the mail if you can get a script signed by a doctor. Typically crap and only available through mail-order at $10-$15/g.
2) Register under the new ACMPR (Access to Cannabis for Medical Purposes Regulations) which came into effect last August. You can grow your own. The plant allowance is 5 indoor or 2 outdoor per gram of script. e.g. 5g/day script = 25 indoor or 10 outdoor.
3) Find a Designated Grower (easier said than done), make a deal with them to grow your script. Main issue with this is DG's can only grow for up to 4x patients and the grow cannot be in your primary residence. That takes some costs/investment and few are willing to do it because the regs are so untested.
Everything else including dispensaries which are all over the West coast and the odd one sprinkled across the country, are all illegal. Some areas like BC have been very tolerant and have been operating for years. But they are illegal and over the last year they've been cracking down/busting them left & right.
All 3 legal ways of getting meds are full of holes and the regulations/procedures being new aren't tested. Even if you have a license, there's no real protection like insurance coverage, potentially getting your property flagged as a grow op, potential inspections. Legally, you're supposed to buy clones/seeds from LP's, yet few offer them or offer crap. Doctors are reluctant to sign off on grow scripts and Health Canada (they manage the program) is encouraging doctors to minimize scripts or keep them at 5g/day or below. And you have to keep getting the scripts signed, some as often as every 3 months.
In other words the system is a cluster f*ck of thinly defined regulations with untested rules. It's easier to just stay under the radar if you can.
Vnsmkr
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Thats what I thought, so #2 is allowable throughout the entire country eh? I know the other 2 means are fucked. What if the person say only juices, so needs a very high plant count, is there one which is "unlimited" under ACMPR?
GroErr
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Yes, the ACMPR grow license is available to all Canadians... if they can get a doctor to sign off on a script. That's the catch, whether it's 1g/day or 100g/day, you have to find a doctor who will sign off and they're being discouraged by the government to sign anything larger than 5g/day, regardless of what your needs are. For edibles/concentrates 5g/day is bull-shit and that's what most true patients need/want (edibles).
GroErr
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Only folks who tend to have larger scripts are grandfathered under the old program. It'll be tough to get anything above 5g/day scripts but doable.
My doc will sign off 5g/day any time I want it but I don't trust the man and from what I've seen so far all it does is put you into a list which they may change/revoke later. F*ck that, I've been under the radar for 30+ years and smoking for 40+, I don't need no stinking permit!
Vnsmkr
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once an outlaw always an outlaw for me, always been fuck em, no different nowOnly folks who tend to have larger scripts are grandfathered under the old program. It'll be tough to get anything above 5g/day scripts but doable.
My doc will sign off 5g/day any time I want it but I don't trust the man and from what I've seen so far all it does is put you into a list which they may change/revoke later. F*ck that, I've been under the radar for 30+ years and smoking for 40+, I don't need no stinking permit!
Vnsmkr
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So what do you mean no you can't? You can't what?
Budley Doright
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I'm in Eastern Ontario and yes it's a federal thing not provincial. Last government fucked it all up
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Budley Doright
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I think there is some confusion here. No you can not grow your own meds. Yes you can purchase it, with a scrip, from one of 38 licensed suppliers in Canada and it's sent through the mail. There were a few growers that are grandfathered in before laws changed, that can grow their own meds, they won an injunction. But we'all see what happens this spring, not much I fear. And yup best to stay under the wire at this point
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Budley Doright
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The ones that were grandfathered were registered growers before the law changed and under the injunction they are allowed to continue, subject to inspections. Not sure of all the details, I thought it best not to apply either lol.Only folks who tend to have larger scripts are grandfathered under the old program. It'll be tough to get anything above 5g/day scripts but doable.
My doc will sign off 5g/day any time I want it but I don't trust the man and from what I've seen so far all it does is put you into a list which they may change/revoke later. F*ck that, I've been under the radar for 30+ years and smoking for 40+, I don't need no stinking permit!
Budley Doright
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But there are 7 store front dispensaries within an hour where I can buy pot, all illegal of course, but there on reserves, right beside the tax free smoke store lol.
zzerg85
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hello.
i'm really not lazy but 205 pages of information isn't something i can go through within a few weeks and random jumping did not get me the info i was hoping for.
i would like to ask for your professional opinion instead if it's not too much trouble for you.
would my 2ftx4ftx4ft tent be capable to grow vertical more efficiently than my current horizontal setup?
i have 2 quantum boards with a slate2 heatsink 1050ma driver
i was planing on harvesting at around 10 zips with cap'n style top feed in rockwool cubes horizontally from one or two plant. probably scrogged
could i make more bud out of my resources with your grow method?
is there anything else i could improve on my method?
kind regards x
i'm really not lazy but 205 pages of information isn't something i can go through within a few weeks and random jumping did not get me the info i was hoping for.
i would like to ask for your professional opinion instead if it's not too much trouble for you.
would my 2ftx4ftx4ft tent be capable to grow vertical more efficiently than my current horizontal setup?
i have 2 quantum boards with a slate2 heatsink 1050ma driver
i was planing on harvesting at around 10 zips with cap'n style top feed in rockwool cubes horizontally from one or two plant. probably scrogged
could i make more bud out of my resources with your grow method?
is there anything else i could improve on my method?
kind regards x
ttystikk
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That's a small rectangle. If you can find ways to grow on the walls such that you're covering more surface area than the floor, you're ahead. I can't offer a lot of specific help because I've never attempted a vertical grow in such a small space.
Your biggest issue may well be achieving the needed clearance between light source and canopy.
zzerg85
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thanks for the reply
i bumped into your harvest photos on every 10th page or so while i was looking for answers / you seem to harvest exclusively
/ and i was impressed with your results. how long do you veg your plants on those pics with 3lb yield?have you thought about making a guide on vertical growing? or you might already have one. as i said earlier this thread is very very long. im sure lots of good information but a package deal would be sweet
ttystikk
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That's what I'm contemplating right now, as it happens. What would you like to see on the subject? Books? Tutorials? Equipment? YouTube videos?thanks for the reply
i bumped into your harvest photos on every 10th page or so while i was looking for answers / you seem to harvest exclusively
have you thought about making a guide on vertical growing? or you might already have one. as i said earlier this thread is very very long. im sure lots of good information but a package deal would be sweet