UN reports; gaza flotila; 6 humanitarians murdered execution style.

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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doc111 said:
And here we go with the patented Padwanbater line by line picking apart of my statement.:roll: I can see I got under your skin (the part where you called me a BITCH gave me that distinct impression):finger:.
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I called you a bitch because that's how you've been acting, in my opinion. :idea:

doc111 said:
I never said you couldn't comment on this shit but you jump the gun and place all the blame squarely at the feet of the IDF and the Israeli govt. I was not there so I will not place blame because I don't know what all happened. I don't know what those commandos saw as they were fast-roping out of their helicopters. I don't know what kind of weapons they had, what kind of warnings they received from the military or the govt. Therefore I am reserving judgement. :dunce:
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No you're not. You're giving the IDF the benefit of the doubt, even after autopsy reports confirmed murder. Even after they executed an American citizen.

Israel does this all the time. This is a clear cut example of excessive force being used by IDF, 6 people were killed, how can you not see that?

They had poles and slingshots from what I remember hearing, nothing lethal. How does that constitute using lethal force against them during a humanitarian operation?

doc111 said:
I spent 8 years in the miltary and I have a bit of insight into what goes on during these types of operations. There will ALWAYS be a few bad apples no matter how much scrutiny these people undergo before joining the military. The examples you gave of atrocities, yes they are atrocities, are extremely sad and outright war crimes and must be punished, but we must not fall into the trap of labelling an entire organization based on the UNAUTHORIZED actions of a few. I may be mistaken but I believe you told me in the past that you did not serve. If I am mistaken I apologize. :-P
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Speak for yourself (and most of the other "conservatives" on the boards I guess) regarding the Palestinians. You sure do paint with a wide brush...

doc111 said:
You call me a bitch and in the very next sentence you go on to say;
"The only attacks I make are with sound logic and reasoning."
Your exact words not mine. ;-)

I could be wrong but you don't know me. How do you know I'm a bitch? What kind of "sound logic" and "reasoning" did you use to come to this conclusion? :dunce:
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You being a bitch is my opinion. You act like a bitch on these boards quite a bit, I've seen you refer to me without actually naming me more than once, and I've seen you take one of the craziest member of RIU's side above mine, simply because it was me. And it was pretty obvious. - Both BITCH moves in my book.
 
blazin256

blazin256

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i completely understand. indians getting expelled from their lands, and palestinians getting expelled from their lands, bear no resemblance whatsoever.
 
doc111

doc111

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Padawanbater2 said:
I called you a bitch because that's how you've been acting, in my opinion. :idea:



No you're not. You're giving the IDF the benefit of the doubt, even after autopsy reports confirmed murder. Even after they executed an American citizen.

Israel does this all the time. This is a clear cut example of excessive force being used by IDF, 6 people were killed, how can you not see that?

They had poles and slingshots from what I remember hearing, nothing lethal. How does that constitute using lethal force against them during a humanitarian operation?



Speak for yourself (and most of the other "conservatives" on the boards I guess) regarding the Palestinians. You sure do paint with a wide brush...



You being a bitch is my opinion. You act like a bitch on these boards quite a bit, I've seen you refer to me without actually naming me more than once, and I've seen you take one of the craziest member of RIU's side above mine, simply because it was me. And it was pretty obvious. - Both BITCH moves in my book.
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You need to take your fucking meds bro! I thought this was over but you come back days later (bitch move) and sneak this post in on me huh? Just put me on ignore if I'm such a "BITCH" bro. I don't even know what you're talking about me siding with one of the "craziest" members on RIU. No clue. If I sided with them, I must have agreed with whatever they said. Either that or I was JOKING dude! You have no sense of humor IMO. I will refer to whoever I choose to refer to, with or without naming them, whenever I choose. If you don't like it, then you can go to hell for all I care. We obviously disagree about most things. I really don't give a shit about that. I posted in another thread you made. Did I provoke you or bait you in any way? No! How many conversations have we had since our initial disagreement a couple of months ago? I've repped you at least once, maybe even more than that since then. You were on my friend's list before your profile was deleted. We've talked via pm's on a few occasions and I've given you grow advice. How is that the actions of a bitch or of someone who doesn't respect you? You are being hypersensitive and are picking and choosing what you see. I just gave you a handful of examples about how I'm not holding any grudge against you. I had mostly forgotten about our little disagreement until you brought it up. I can see that YOU DO hold grudges though! :evil:


I'm done discussing any of this stupid kid shit between us. If you want to talk about it anymore then pm me. Otherwise be a fucking man and drop it! :p

As far as the topic of the thread. I don't live in fairytale world bro. I live in the real world where people do fucked up shit. They do stupid shit like try to bust through military blockades by militaries who "do this sort of shit all the time". Yet we are supposed to feel sorry for them because they didn't have the common sense to know that Israel doesn't fuck around! I am a very sympathetic person however I feel no sympathy for anybody stupid enough to fuck with the IDF. I said it was unfortunate, and it is. I've said it was a tragedy, and it is. That said I still don't really feel sorry for these stupid peace activists. Would you feel sorry for a guy who runs from the police and wraps his vehicle around a telephone pole killing himself? I wouldn't. We see it all the time. If you run from the police you are probably gonna catch a beatdown at the very least and may catch a whole lot worse. Common sense bro. ;-)

 

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Johnnyorganic

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blazin256 said:
i completely understand. indians getting expelled from their lands, and palestinians getting expelled from their lands, bear no resemblance whatsoever.
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Inconsistent.

You are so concerned with the "expulsion" of the Palestinians (they are still there, by the way), but apparently you refuse to acknowledge the fact that the Jews were driven out previously.

I can see a comparison to Segregation; or the internment of Japanese during WW II; or even Apartheid. But to compare the Palestinian situation to what happened to the American Indian is nothing short of cheap hyperbole.
 
Padawanbater2

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doc111 said:
...and sneak this post in on me huh?
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"..sneak it in" huh?... yeah, that or uhh... just post like usual.. I have a life outside RIU pal, sorry you expected it to me sooner, I just couldn't get to it that quick. That's life.

The rest of this can be discussed via PM if you feel the need. You seem to be taking shit personally, which is whatever, like I said before, and I think you misunderstood what I meant when I said "grow thicker skin". That means "don't take shit personally".

You served in the US military, do you think I'd really expect you to have any other opinion about anything having to do with Israel? Or any other US soldier, with FEW exceptions?

doc111 said:
I will refer to whoever I choose to refer to, with or without naming them, whenever I choose. If you don't like it, then you can go to hell for all I care. We obviously disagree about most things. I really don't give a shit about that. I posted in another thread you made. Did I provoke you or bait you in any way? No! How many conversations have we had since our initial disagreement a couple of months ago? I've repped you at least once, maybe even more than that since then. You were on my friend's list before your profile was deleted. We've talked via pm's on a few occasions and I've given you grow advice. How is that the actions of a bitch or of someone who doesn't respect you? You are being hypersensitive and are picking and choosing what you see. I just gave you a handful of examples about how I'm not holding any grudge against you. I had mostly forgotten about our little disagreement until you brought it up. I can see that YOU DO hold grudges though! :evil:


I'm done discussing any of this stupid kid shit between us. If you want to talk about it anymore then pm me. Otherwise be a fucking man and drop it! :p
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doc111 said:
That said I still don't really feel sorry for these stupid peace activists. Would you feel sorry for a guy who runs from the police and wraps his vehicle around a telephone pole killing himself? I wouldn't. We see it all the time. If you run from the police you are probably gonna catch a beatdown at the very least and may catch a whole lot worse. Common sense bro. ;-)
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Because those two examples are the same... :dunce:

So I guess the problem is you see peace activists the same as criminals.

OK...
 
doc111

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Padawanbater2 said:
"..sneak it in" huh?... yeah, that or uhh... just post like usual.. I have a life outside RIU pal, sorry you expected it to me sooner, I just couldn't get to it that quick. That's life.

The rest of this can be discussed via PM if you feel the need. You seem to be taking shit personally, which is whatever, like I said before, and I think you misunderstood what I meant when I said "grow thicker skin". That means "don't take shit personally".

You served in the US military, do you think I'd really expect you to have any other opinion about anything having to do with Israel? Or any other US soldier, with FEW exceptions?



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Because those two examples are the same... :dunce:

So I guess the problem is you see peace activists the same as criminals.

OK...
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When they go up against one of the best military powers in the world with sticks and slingshots and then cry foul when something bad happens? Uhhhh, YES! Seems like Darwin's theories at work to me.:dunce:


And you shouldn't be throwing rocks, living in that glass house and all. If you weren't taking this shit personally yourself you wouldn't have responded in such fashion earlier, calling me a "bitch". ;-)
 
Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
only if theres some beer and weed in it for me!

how those monsters coming along for you? any pics? you harvesting yet?

i saw some pics of them a while back and was blown away.
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Today is my birthday and I'm outside all day trimming! I thought that would be the "fun" part, but these things are too big! I hate trimming now! lol

2 down, 2 to go.

Next season will be EPIC! I learned so much this time around, this site is great!
 
doc111

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Padawanbater2 said:
Today is my birthday and I'm outside all day trimming! I thought that would be the "fun" part, but these things are too big! I hate trimming now! lol

2 down, 2 to go.

Next season will be EPIC! I learned so much this time around, this site is great!
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Happy Birthday Pad!:weed:
 
UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
Today is my birthday and I'm outside all day trimming! I thought that would be the "fun" part, but these things are too big! I hate trimming now! lol

2 down, 2 to go.

Next season will be EPIC! I learned so much this time around, this site is great!
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happy birthday!

i've never had as much to trim as you do (not even close!). good luck on that.
 
VWFringe

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I appreciate the topic and the rant

i think it'll come down to re-integration of the two communities, and i hear a lot of isrealis are open to the idea

i'm gonna pray that way at least, fuck the governments, there's kids and families, and i know their thoughts and prayers would be answered by peace.
 
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its simple folks, all the nations of the middle east were created out of thin air after the EUROPEON war of ww1. all these fake middle east nations, who served their new masters (britan and france) did whatever was expected of them to do. just because a nation called lebanon, iraq and so on attack israel, another false construct, doesnt mean anything when it comes to ordinary people.

the fact is there is a clear agenda going on here. israel is to be heavily favored as a highly nationalistic nation, and the arab world is to have any sense of nationalism of their own squashed.

all those who support israel are either delusional, irrationally ignorant, or simply willing to be biased and belie no matter what. well, to those of you who support israel, especially americans, dont expect there to be sympathy for you if ever you find yourselves in a similar situation. remember, just to the south, you have a very nationalistic nation in mexico. who of which believe that the southern part of the usa belongs to them. in the future, when america is further ravaged by debt (assuming they dont use a massive war to get out of debt) you'll have the massive latin american population living in the southern usa begin rebelling and demanding mexican autonomy in california, arizona and so on.

if israel is so benign and innocent, then why do they continue expanding settlements? why is it that they continued building settlements in lebanon up until 2000? isnt it an offense to send heavily armed people of your kind into an area where people live, and set up a settlement and take control of their land? thats what israel does, its not a innocent little nation that simply wants to survive, it wants to conquer the levant, plain and simple. lebanon is a prime example of israel's criminally inhuman (but pro jewish) zionist agenda.

the problem isnt israel itself, its how it came into being that is. no peoples would accept that, and especially arabs. israeli's dont want to have a rational conversation on the matter because the truth, and basic human common sense is not in their favor, so they always resort to ad-hominem attack and arguments. for example, bringing up suicide bombers, or something totally unrelated to the base of the matter, to diverting the conversation off into an irrational diatribe.

Im Lebanese, and i would love to have a jewish province in the middle east, as a part of one great nation. but people dont want to face the reality that israel was set up by the same people that also set up the supposed enemies of israel. napoleon didnt refer to england as perfidious albion for nothing you know. the jews, like all humans, can be riled up with any sort idealist fervor, and that is what is being done to them now. they are being manipulated into believing everyone is their enemy, because it is not the agenda of their government for them to simply survive, but rather to conquer, and commit acts of continual aggression and conquest against its neighboring victims (im not referring to the nation states, but rather the ordinary people on the land, the true enemy, not some flag or national anthem).

say what you want about the matter, but it boils down to basic common sense. if israel didnt exist (or if it wasnt incipiated in the manner it was) then there wouldnt be a conflict. this is the deliberate work of the zionist and britan to ethnically cleanse the levant so that it can destory the monetary system of the muslim world, which is against debt and usury, which doesnt jive to well with how them folk make their living.
 
jeff f

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Aaahhh issa you're nuts. The only people oppressing the people of the middle east nations are the opperessive govt of the nations in which they live.

But you go ahead and keep blaming the only free nation the size of new jersey.

Denial a river in lala land.
 
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