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DIY-HP-LED

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4000 rounds per minute of 30 mm bullets is bad ass.
They carry missiles, cluster bombs and Napalm too and would make a real mess and terrorize the Russians into abandoning their vehicles and running for home. Vlad would not be happy however and might lose his mind, it would be over in days.
 

Fogdog

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Don't provoke him, we know the rules of proxy war and so does he, he also knows he will lose under those rules. Give the Russians a chance to kill the fucker for their own good. Let him twist in the wind, it will unwind on their own now, as things begin to casscade for Russia militarily and economically.

Arms and support, but where does that end? Artillery, vehicles, planes, medium range AA systems, A10s!, Perhaps patriot systems? Or do they focus on holding Vlad with Javelins, stingers and small arms while well armed partisans devastate supply dumps and columns starving their fronts. What flavor of war shall it be?
When people write posts containing snuff fantasies they should not press send.

Regarding supplies to keep the Ukrainian army's fighting capabilities at full strength? Yeah, absolutely. What more should we be doing? Regarding giving them additional military hardware to grow their strength? Yep, but don't make the mistake of giving them stuff they haven't trained on or aren't able to maintain. I'd support giving Ukraine's air force a footprint on a NATO base and staff it with NATO maintenance personnel and assist in training.
 

AntoMaria7

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Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED

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4000 rounds per minute of 30 mm bullets is bad ass.
Brightly colored in fresh two tone blue and yellow paint over American grey. Ya warn the Russians they are coming to terrorize the troops! They will abandon their vehicles on the road and run for Russia, unless Vlad starts summarily executing them, He has no KGB or "political" officers to maintain military control though, no SS either. He's got his cops, but they along with the army just took an effective 50% pay cut.

No way around it, Vlad will be remembered for his blunders and fucking Russia, it must be soul destroying, provided he has one. This will be his legacy and in his obit, which could be published soon. I like the idea of them spiking his borsch with a massive dose of LSD and dragging him from the Kremlin on TV frothing at the mouth and blubbering in a straight jacket. Poor Vlad lost mind, can we have economy back now? :lol:
 

BudmanTX

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This is the only article i could find in english
O, did I read that wrong...Ukrainian guy killed cause of treason against Russia, by ukraine....hmmmm
 

Kerowacked

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Don't provoke him, we know the rules of proxy war and so does he, he also knows he will lose under those rules. Give the Russians a chance to kill the fucker for their own good. Let him twist in the wind, it will unwind on their own now, as things begin to casscade for Russia militarily and economically.

Arms and support, but where does that end? Artillery, vehicles, planes, medium range AA systems, A10s!, Perhaps patriot systems? Or do they focus on holding Vlad with Javelins, stingers and small arms while well armed partisans devastate supply dumps and columns starving their fronts. What flavor of war shall it be?
…Napalm in the morning, smells like victory”:fire::wall:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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When people write posts containing snuff fantasies they should not press send.

Regarding supplies to keep the Ukrainian army's fighting capabilities at full strength? Yeah, absolutely. What more should we be doing? Regarding giving them additional military hardware to grow their strength? Yep, but don't make the mistake of giving them stuff they haven't trained on or aren't able to maintain. I'd support giving Ukraine's air force a footprint on a NATO base and staff it with NATO maintenance personnel and assist in training.
It's a fact that we want to get rid of Vlad, one way or another and it's the Russians who will have to do it. John Brenan former CIA director measured his life in doube digit days and I did not advocate his assassination. It is however a very strong probability that is largely up to Vlad.

I advocate a reasonable level of aid and especially AA and anti tank missiles, perhaps some medium range missiles to counter the Russian ones. I'm sure the Pentagon and CIA have assessed the situation and are drooling over the possibilities. Keep it simple though, small arms and shoulder launched work well with not much training required. Ukrainian airline pilots are probably flying Ukrainian C130s deep into Ukraine or soon will be, delivering weapons on highways close to fighting areas. One plane load delivered to a town in eastern Ukraine would fuck things up for the Russians. Keep it low key and partisan based as much as possible. No A10's!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Don't provoke him, we know the rules of proxy war and so does he, he also knows he will lose under those rules. Give the Russians a chance to kill the fucker for their own good. Let him twist in the wind, it will unwind on their own now, as things begin to casscade for Russia militarily and economically.

Arms and support, but where does that end? Artillery, vehicles, planes, medium range AA systems, A10s!, Perhaps patriot systems? Or do they focus on holding Vlad with Javelins, stingers and small arms while well armed partisans devastate supply dumps and columns starving their fronts. What flavor of war shall it be?
it's all flavored like blood and shit...people bleed and shit on themselves when they die a lot of the time, especially in a violent manner
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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When people write posts containing snuff fantasies they should not press send.

Regarding supplies to keep the Ukrainian army's fighting capabilities at full strength? Yeah, absolutely. What more should we be doing? Regarding giving them additional military hardware to grow their strength? Yep, but don't make the mistake of giving them stuff they haven't trained on or aren't able to maintain. I'd support giving Ukraine's air force a footprint on a NATO base and staff it with NATO maintenance personnel and assist in training.
better do it in secret, or putin will waste not one second in claiming that NATO was behind the entire thing, and entitle him (in his own mind) to attack nato troops, or worse
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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This is the only article i could find in english
the article says "treason against russia"...i think they mean treason against the Ukraine FOR russia? or else i don't understand at all
 

BudmanTX

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the article says "treason against russia"...i think they mean treason against the Ukraine FOR russia? or else i don't understand at all
Yeah that's what I saw as well. Now there is a report of someone in the Ukrainian parliament giving secrets to Russia, but it hasn't been confirmed though..there is a vid on youtube..but I can't understand russian...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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better do it in secret, or putin will waste not one second in claiming that NATO was behind the entire thing, and entitle him (in his own mind) to attack nato troops, or worse
There are lot's of places right now in western Ukraine to base war and transport planes. Transports are very important they will rapidly get lot's of arms in eastern Ukraine close to the fighting and can take wounded and others out. The Russians don't own the air at low level, the Ukrainians do, or soon will and starlink internet connections should make coordinating everything including air corridors easy.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
There are lot's of places right now in western Ukraine to base war and transport planes. Transports are very important they will rapidly get lot's of arms in eastern Ukraine close to the fighting and can take wounded and others out. The Russians don't own the air at low level, the Ukrainians do, or soon will and starlink internet connections should make coordinating everything including air corridors easy.
Ukraine is a lot like Texas, just not as small.
@BudmanTX heehee
 

printer

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Russia Warns Baltic Embassies After Their Ambassador Attacked
Moscow demanded Saturday that authorities in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania take measures to protect Russia's embassies after a Russian diplomat was attacked in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius, the Russian RIA news agency said.

"We are warning Vilnius, Riga and Tallinn that they are responsible for the consequences of the anti-Russian psychosis they have unleashed," the Russian foreign ministry was quoted as saying.

"A Russian diplomat in the Lithuanian capital was attacked with the use of physical force, attempts were made to put pressure on the ambassador," it added.

Lithuania's national broadcaster reported last week a third secretary of the Russian embassy was beaten on the evening of Feb. 24 near the embassy, in a residential courtyard. The broadcaster cited a Lithuanian police spokesperson.

A suspect in the beating, which took place as an estimated 10,000 people gathered in front of the embassy to show support for Ukraine following the start of Russia's invasion earlier that day, was arrested, the spokesperson was quoted as saying. The diplomat declined medical help, she added.
 

printer

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UK Accuses Russia of Using Mariupol Cease-Fire to Reset Forces

Britain said Saturday that Russia's proposed cease-fire in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol was probably an attempt to deflect international condemnation while giving itself a chance to reset its forces for a renewed offensive.

"By accusing Ukraine of breaking the agreement, Russia is likely seeking to shift responsibility for current and future civilian casualties in the city," the British defense ministry said in an intelligence update.

Russia said earlier it had opened humanitarian corridors near the besieged cities of Mariupol and Volnovakha. Russia's defense ministry accused Ukrainian "nationalists" of preventing civilians from leaving, RIA news agency reported.

But Mariupol's city council said Russia was not observing the cease-fire.
 
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