War

Putin's a pussy. Just like hilter.

How about a half a billion dollar price on putin head? $500,000. might bring some crazies out of the wood work.
I pray daily for a perfectly placed bullet in his child murderer brain.

If he wasn't a p**** he wouldn't be so scared of democracy.

chronnie49 said:

I bet your mother is ashamed you ever came out of her rancid hole.

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Putin's is more ashamed.

The Hippy said:

How about a half a billion dollar price on putin head? $500,000. might bring some crazies out of the wood work.
I pray daily for a perfectly placed bullet in his child murderer brain.

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Good ole fashioned hippy values

Fucking nuclear strong force, it will be the death of us all. Who’s for preemptive nuclear strikes yet? F bullets

This is a proxy war and they are often ugly, we will supply the weapons, the Ukrainians the courage, and the Russians the meat for the grinder. The Ukrainians are a liberal democracy and are dying for their country, even the civilians in the cities, what are the Russians dying for? Ukraine wins, Vlad goes, it's that simple, Ukraine wins and Belarus is the next domino to fall. All are Russian speaking and would soon start living the good life with EU aid contingent on reforms. It would be relatively easy to develop both countries, meanwhile the folks in Russia would live like shit. Well now he can just multiply those consequences, the best Russian brains and talent will be streaming to both countries for the better standard of living and opportunity. Vlad fears the EU more than NATO, but now he has reason to fear NATO, or at least their weapons in Ukrainian hands. Now living conditions in the west will be much better than Russia, the Russian people know this because they have experienced it.

zeddd said:

Fucking nuclear strong force, it will be the death of us all. Who’s for preemptive nuclear strikes yet? F bullets

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Mother Earth can’t catch a break. These asteroids keep missing us.

A secular Buddhist friend of mine just posted this on Facebook and I figured I'd drop it here for perspective, since it deals in war and that is suffering. Sam was a trial lawyer in California, now retired. Whatever your fate, embrace it, if you suddenly find yourself a soldier in Ukraine, embrace it, this is the here and now, be in it.
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Amor Fati
That's a Latin phrase that means "love your fate". It is associated with the Stoics but more so with the philosopher Frederich Nietzsche. It goes past accepting our past. It says embrace our past because it is all we have. It is who we are. There is no "what could have been" only what "is".

I lost my practice at forty-four due to a brain injury and it took me six years, years that would have been my most productive years, just to be able to work again. Then slowly I rebuilt a small practice only to have heart failure and open-heart surgery at sixty to lose it all yet again. That was five years ago. I have spent the last five years in this tiny room slowly recovering. The first two years in bed. Between Covid and diabetes I never expected to leave this room alive.

Now, at this point people might think one of two things. Sam is feeling sorry for himself or poor Sam I should pity him. Both sentiments would be wasted. I am not feeling sorry for myself. I think of all of the people who were caught up in the madness of the Second World War or little Anne Frank with her tender heart dying of typhus in that Nazi camp. How could I?
Don't pity me either. You may have already suffered your own life's tragedies as bad or worse. Everybody suffers. There are no exceptions. The best we can do is be there for others who are suffering. Amor fati!

Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the shit out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."

Jenius, the dear leader has ended the war if the world will only listen.

I prefer his real name "Pigtin"

captainmorgan said:

Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the shit out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."

Jenius, the dear leader has ended the war if the world will only listen.

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How long before we think this is a good idea

The F-22 is a fighter not a bomber but I'm pretty sure the dear leader can fix that with a sharpie.

Burn & Crash said:

I don't know, as I said it was my opinion but a quick bit of research does not seem to completely support either of our contentions.
You might tell me after reviewing the data what your opinion is. I am not sure either of us is in any position to know based even on historic data.

Consequences of the Collapse of the Soviet Union

online.norwich.edu

Russia - Post-Soviet Russia

Russia - Post-Soviet Russia: The U.S.S.R. legally ceased to exist on December 31, 1991. The new state, called the Russian Federation, set off on the road to democracy and a market economy without any clear conception of how to complete such a transformation in the world’s largest country. Like...

www.britannica.com

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Japan was very fortunate that someone like Deming existed and was not only available, but seemed eager to help. a very happy coincidence for Japan, and the rest of the world.
Unfortunately, i'm not aware of anyone of Deming's intellect and expertise either being available, or eager to go to russia. The russians had been a very, very insular country, preferring to financially cripple themselves than do business with the hated capitalistic west. That insulation and paranoia led to the downfall of russia, with Gorbachev trying to restructure the country, but ignoring available western markets. after the collapse in 89 he tried removing governmental price controls, but without foreign investments to shore up the ruble, inflation went wild, and further steps to help only exacerbated the problem. when their economy crashed hard, the Oligarch led mafia stepped in and became the law in many areas. those same oligarchs helped form the current government in russia, where they, and putin become obscenely rich, with the people hovering just above poverty line. They still live at least two steps below where they should be, while the top 1% gets richer and richer...
So, while the west may have had a hand in things, it seems most of russia's problems in the 80s and 90s were caused by poor leadership decisions, just like their current problems are caused by the poor decisions of one man...putin

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This is a proxy war and they are often ugly, we will supply the weapons, the Ukrainians the courage, and the Russians the meat for the grinder. The Ukrainians are a liberal democracy and are dying for their country, even the civilians in the cities, what are the Russians dying for? Ukraine wins, Vlad goes, it's that simple, Ukraine wins and Belarus is the next domino to fall. All are Russian speaking and would soon start living the good life with EU aid contingent on reforms. It would be relatively easy to develop both countries, meanwhile the folks in Russia would live like shit. Well now he can just multiply those consequences, the best Russian brains and talent will be streaming to both countries for the better standard of living and opportunity. Vlad fears the EU more than NATO, but now he has reason to fear NATO, or at least their weapons in Ukrainian hands. Now living conditions in the west will be much better than Russia, the Russian people know this because they have experienced it.

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you have the definition of the term "proxy war" confused...a proxy war is started by one country, between two (or more) other countries, one of which is fighting in the place of the country that started the war, either willingly, or unwillingly...while the instigator country sits back and risks nothing...
that is not the case here. you regarding Ukraine as the same as NATO, or the same as the EU, does not make them a proxy for that entity...this is just a war, started by one participant, against another participant

Roger A. Shrubber said:

Japan was very fortunate that someone like Deming existed and was not only available, but seemed eager to help. a very happy coincidence for Japan, and the rest of the world.
Unfortunately, i'm not aware of anyone of Deming's intellect and expertise either being available, or eager to go to russia. The russians had been a very, very insular country, preferring to financially cripple themselves than do business with the hated capitalistic west. That insulation and paranoia led to the downfall of russia, with Gorbachev trying to restructure the country, but ignoring available western markets. after the collapse in 89 he tried removing governmental price controls, but without foreign investments to shore up the ruble, inflation went wild, and further steps to help only exacerbated the problem. when their economy crashed hard, the Oligarch led mafia stepped in and became the law in many areas. those same oligarchs helped form the current government in russia, where they, and putin become obscenely rich, with the people hovering just above poverty line. They still live at least two steps below where they should be, while the top 1% gets richer and richer...
So, while the west may have had a hand in things, it seems most of russia's problems in the 80s and 90s were caused by poor leadership decisions, just like their current problems are caused by the poor decisions of one man...putin

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The best way to reform Russia is to win in Ukraine and then Belarus, these Russian speaking countries can be much more easily reformed by the EU with the promise of eventual membership and they have to reform to become members. Meanwhile with western aid their economies would improve considerably while conditions in Russia went to Hell. Naturally they would attract a lot of Russians wanting to emigrate for the good life and business opportunity. The best and brightest would stampede to Ukraine and Belarus, both Russian speaking countries, they would have to build a wall, not the Russians, they won't be able to afford one.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

you have the definition of the term "proxy war" confused...a proxy war is started by one country, between two (or more) other countries, one of which is fighting in the place of the country that started the war, either willingly, or unwillingly...while the instigator country sits back and risks nothing...
that is not the case here. you regarding Ukraine as the same as NATO, or the same as the EU, does not make them a proxy for that entity...this is just a war, started by one participant, against another participant

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It's a question of semantics Roger, the point is it will work like a classic proxy war and the rules of engagement will be the same. We supply the arms, training, aid and intelligence, the Ukrainians supply the courage and determination and the Russians supply the meat for the grinder and lot's of money to keep the ball rolling. Our troops don't fight their troops, Ukrainians do, using our weapons. It's been that way through many recent wars, except for the gulf wars and the second Afghanistan war, at least until Vlad started putting bounties on US troops there.