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printer
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Actually I was going to see if I could find a Trump gif with him saying "So sad." but I did not want to hear his voice if I did not have to.To misquote Indiana Jones, it just got personal.
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It will be an Afghanistan kind of win for Russia. Not one they desire though.
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Zelensky concedes Ukraine unlikely to join NATO, seeks security guarantees
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday admitted that Ukraine is unlikely to join NATO, the western security alliance that Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine never join, as he made a call for increased security commitments from the West.
In an address before the U.K.'s Joint Expeditionary Force, Zelensky said Ukraine was still seeking security guarantees short of joining NATO, Reuters reported.
The Ukrainian president said it was "clear" that Ukraine was not a member of NATO, The Washington Post reported.
"For years we heard about the apparently open door, but have already also heard that we will not enter there, and these are truths and must be acknowledged," he said.
Ukraine has strived to join NATO since the annexation of the Crimean Peninsula in 2014, but Moscow has fiercely fought against it. Russia's demand that Ukraine never join the alliance is among the lofty demands it has made in talks to halt its attack.
Ukrainian and Russian negotiators are still discussing terms this week to potentially enact a ceasefire in Ukraine as the Russian onslaught continues, taking a growing civilian toll.
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday admitted that Ukraine is unlikely to join NATO, the western security alliance that Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine never join, as he made a call for increased security commitments from the West.
In an address before the U.K.'s Joint Expeditionary Force, Zelensky said Ukraine was still seeking security guarantees short of joining NATO, Reuters reported.
The Ukrainian president said it was "clear" that Ukraine was not a member of NATO, The Washington Post reported.
"For years we heard about the apparently open door, but have already also heard that we will not enter there, and these are truths and must be acknowledged," he said.
Ukraine has strived to join NATO since the annexation of the Crimean Peninsula in 2014, but Moscow has fiercely fought against it. Russia's demand that Ukraine never join the alliance is among the lofty demands it has made in talks to halt its attack.
Ukrainian and Russian negotiators are still discussing terms this week to potentially enact a ceasefire in Ukraine as the Russian onslaught continues, taking a growing civilian toll.
Zelensky concedes Ukraine unlikely to join NATO, seeks security guarantees
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday admitted that Ukraine is unlikely to join NATO, the Western security alliance that Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine never…
thehill.com
PJ Diaz
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Yes and no. They have the advantage of proximity which the US didn't have. It seems to me that at the end of the day, Ukraine is annexed by Russia, a lot of the annexed inhabitants hate Putin, but live under authoritarian control, so are helpless to do anything about it. Sometime in this decade Putin retires to a cozy chair, while his replacement conveniently pardons him from any possible misdeeds.
printer
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UK slaps new sanctions on Russia as invasion of Ukraine continues
The new sanctions target exports of high-end luxury goods to Russia and place an additional 35 percent import tariff on hundreds of key products.
The tariff increase will affect Russian vodka, iron, steel, glass and glassware, machinery, works of art and fur skins, among other products, and the export ban will likely have an impact on luxury vehicles, high-end fashion and artwork.
The U.K. government said the new penalties will hurt Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war effort and that their effect on U.K companies will be kept low.
“The measures will cause maximum harm to Putin’s war machine while minimising the impact on UK businesses as G7 leaders unite to unleash a fresh wave of economic sanctions on Moscow,” the government said in a press release.
“The export ban will come into force shortly and will make sure oligarchs and other members of the elite, who have grown rich under President Putin’s reign and support his illegal invasion, are deprived of access to luxury goods,” the government added.
The new round of sanctions comes after the Economic Crime Bill was enacted in the U.K., according to Reuters. The law allows the government to quicken its actions in trying to eliminate Russian “dirty money” from British assets, according to the news wire.
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The new sanctions target exports of high-end luxury goods to Russia and place an additional 35 percent import tariff on hundreds of key products.
The tariff increase will affect Russian vodka, iron, steel, glass and glassware, machinery, works of art and fur skins, among other products, and the export ban will likely have an impact on luxury vehicles, high-end fashion and artwork.
The U.K. government said the new penalties will hurt Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war effort and that their effect on U.K companies will be kept low.
“The measures will cause maximum harm to Putin’s war machine while minimising the impact on UK businesses as G7 leaders unite to unleash a fresh wave of economic sanctions on Moscow,” the government said in a press release.
“The export ban will come into force shortly and will make sure oligarchs and other members of the elite, who have grown rich under President Putin’s reign and support his illegal invasion, are deprived of access to luxury goods,” the government added.
The new round of sanctions comes after the Economic Crime Bill was enacted in the U.K., according to Reuters. The law allows the government to quicken its actions in trying to eliminate Russian “dirty money” from British assets, according to the news wire.
UK slaps new sanctions on Russia as invasion of Ukraine continues
The United Kingdom slapped new sanctions on Russia Tuesday as Moscow continues its invasion of Ukraine.The new sanctions target exports of high-end luxury goods to Russia and place an addition…
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PJ Diaz
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He's just now figuring that out? Dang, I could have told him that and I'm not even a professional comedian.Zelensky concedes Ukraine unlikely to join NATO, seeks security guarantees
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday admitted that Ukraine is unlikely to join NATO, the western security alliance that Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine never join, as he made a call for increased security commitments from the West.
In an address before the U.K.'s Joint Expeditionary Force, Zelensky said Ukraine was still seeking security guarantees short of joining NATO, Reuters reported.
The Ukrainian president said it was "clear" that Ukraine was not a member of NATO, The Washington Post reported.
"For years we heard about the apparently open door, but have already also heard that we will not enter there, and these are truths and must be acknowledged," he said.
Ukraine has strived to join NATO since the annexation of the Crimean Peninsula in 2014, but Moscow has fiercely fought against it. Russia's demand that Ukraine never join the alliance is among the lofty demands it has made in talks to halt its attack.
Ukrainian and Russian negotiators are still discussing terms this week to potentially enact a ceasefire in Ukraine as the Russian onslaught continues, taking a growing civilian toll.
Zelensky concedes Ukraine unlikely to join NATO, seeks security guarantees
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday admitted that Ukraine is unlikely to join NATO, the Western security alliance that Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine never…
printer
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Russia is closer but they are also economically the size of Italy. And with the restrictions on them things may get costly just being next door.
PJ Diaz
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What I want to know is how long all these sanctions will last? Is Russia the new Cuba, or will everyone conveniently forget 6-months after Ukraine surrenders?UK slaps new sanctions on Russia as invasion of Ukraine continues
The new sanctions target exports of high-end luxury goods to Russia and place an additional 35 percent import tariff on hundreds of key products.
The tariff increase will affect Russian vodka, iron, steel, glass and glassware, machinery, works of art and fur skins, among other products, and the export ban will likely have an impact on luxury vehicles, high-end fashion and artwork.
The U.K. government said the new penalties will hurt Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war effort and that their effect on U.K companies will be kept low.
“The measures will cause maximum harm to Putin’s war machine while minimising the impact on UK businesses as G7 leaders unite to unleash a fresh wave of economic sanctions on Moscow,” the government said in a press release.
“The export ban will come into force shortly and will make sure oligarchs and other members of the elite, who have grown rich under President Putin’s reign and support his illegal invasion, are deprived of access to luxury goods,” the government added.
The new round of sanctions comes after the Economic Crime Bill was enacted in the U.K., according to Reuters. The law allows the government to quicken its actions in trying to eliminate Russian “dirty money” from British assets, according to the news wire.
UK slaps new sanctions on Russia as invasion of Ukraine continues
The United Kingdom slapped new sanctions on Russia Tuesday as Moscow continues its invasion of Ukraine.The new sanctions target exports of high-end luxury goods to Russia and place an addition…
cannabineer
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Soviets had a long border with Afghanistan. They still left defeated.
printer
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It is a message to Putin, a face saving gift. Putin will probably be happy to say to his people he stopped Nato and have increased the size of russia by two provinces.
printer
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People will not forget too fast.
I'd guess everyone will be forgetting six months later, but not out of convenience(agenda), more because it just won't be shiny enough anymore for our ADD brains.
PJ Diaz
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Russia is over 50 times the size of Italy, with over twice the population, but only 10% of the debt compared to Italy.
PJ Diaz
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So like two decades? People are pretty forgetful, especially when the leaders they hate are no longer in power.
Unclebaldrick
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I really doubt that.
printer
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And that is because Putin was getting set for this invasion putting away a rainy day chest. He did not count on it being frozen though.
But that is the point, to get someone more civilized in power. And just a name change will not do.
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Ukraine says Russia holds 400 hospital patients and staff hostage in Mariupol, bombardment of Kyiv continues
Ukrainian officials say Russian forces have captured a hospital and taken patients and staff hostage in the besieged city of Mariupol.
The Donetsk regional governor said Russian forces were holding more than 400 people, including patients and doctors, hostage in the basement of an intensive care hospital in Mariupol.
Pavlo Kyrylenko said the hospital was bombed but staff continued to treat patients in the basement as high-rise buildings burned around them.
It comes after a deadly attack on a maternity hospital in the city last week.
The Mariupol city council reported 2,000 civilian cars had managed to leave along a humanitarian corridor that runs more than 260 kilometres west to the city of Zaporizhzhia.
The city council said another 2,000 cars were waiting to leave along the route.
It was not clear if the number of departed vehicles given on Tuesday (local time) included 160 cars that left the day before.
www.abc.net.au
Ukrainian officials say Russian forces have captured a hospital and taken patients and staff hostage in the besieged city of Mariupol.
The Donetsk regional governor said Russian forces were holding more than 400 people, including patients and doctors, hostage in the basement of an intensive care hospital in Mariupol.
Pavlo Kyrylenko said the hospital was bombed but staff continued to treat patients in the basement as high-rise buildings burned around them.
It comes after a deadly attack on a maternity hospital in the city last week.
The Mariupol city council reported 2,000 civilian cars had managed to leave along a humanitarian corridor that runs more than 260 kilometres west to the city of Zaporizhzhia.
The city council said another 2,000 cars were waiting to leave along the route.
It was not clear if the number of departed vehicles given on Tuesday (local time) included 160 cars that left the day before.
Russia steps up bombardment as it presses in on Kyiv, an estimated 20,000 flee Mariupol
In what's believed to be the biggest evacuation yet from Mariupol, about 2,000 cars make it out along the humanitarian corridor, while talks continue between Russia and Ukraine as European leaders head to Kyiv to show support.
www.abc.net.au
PJ Diaz
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He could be in power for over another decade, then when someone takes over it's all happysville. I'm not a fan of his, but Putin seems like a pretty skilled chess player.