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Russia strikes Kyiv as troops consolidate gains in the east
Russia attacked the Ukrainian capital early Sunday, striking at least two residential buildings, the mayor of Kyiv said, as elsewhere Russian troops fought to consolidate their gains in the country’s east.

Associated Press journalists in Kyiv saw rescue services battling flames and rescuing civilians. The general prosecutor’s office said preliminary information indicated one person was killed and four injured; Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko said four people were hospitalized with injuries and a 7-year-old girl was pulled alive from the rubble.

A nearby kindergarten was also damaged, with a crater in its courtyard.

 

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Russia strikes Kyiv as troops consolidate gains in the east
Russia attacked the Ukrainian capital early Sunday, striking at least two residential buildings, the mayor of Kyiv said, as elsewhere Russian troops fought to consolidate their gains in the country’s east.

Associated Press journalists in Kyiv saw rescue services battling flames and rescuing civilians. The general prosecutor’s office said preliminary information indicated one person was killed and four injured; Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko said four people were hospitalized with injuries and a 7-year-old girl was pulled alive from the rubble.

A nearby kindergarten was also damaged, with a crater in its courtyard.

A member of the Ukrainian parliament, Oleksiy Goncharenko, wrote on the Telegram messaging app that “according to prelim data 14 missiles were launched against Kyiv region and Kyiv.” Air Force spokesman Yuriy Ignat said the missiles were Kh-101 air-launched cruise missiles fired from planes over the Caspian Sea.

In the city of Cherkasy, about 160 kilometers (100 miles) southeast of Kyiv, one person was killed and five injured in strikes by two Russian rockets, regional governor Ihor Taburets said.

The early morning Russian airstrikes were the first to successfully target the capital since June 5.

Klitschko told journalists that he believed “it is maybe a symbolic attack” ahead of an upcoming NATO summit in Madrid.

Two more explosions were later heard in Kyiv, but their cause and possible casualties were not immediately clear.

U.S. President Joe Biden, while standing with Olaf Scholz as the German chancellor greeted leaders arriving to open a Group of Seven summit Sunday, was asked for his reaction to the latest Russian missile strikes on Kyiv, said. “It’s more of their barbarism,” he replied.

Biden said the United States and other G-7 leading economies intend to announce a ban on imports of gold from Russia. They hope that measure will further isolate Russia economically over its invasion of Ukraine.

Senior Biden administration officials said gold is Moscow’s second-largest export after energy and that banning imports would make it more difficult for Russia to participate in global markets.

Biden’s Twitter feed said Russia “rakes in tens of billions of dollars” from the sale of its gold.

Meanwhile, Russian forces have battled to swallow up the last remaining Ukrainian stronghold in the eastern Luhansk region, pressing their momentum after taking full control Saturday of the city of Sievierodonetsk, including a chemical plant where hundreds of Ukrainian troops and civilians had holed up.

Luhansk Gov. Serhiy Haidai said Sunday that Russia was conducting intense airstrikes on the adjacent city of Lysychansk, destroying its television tower and seriously damaging a road bridge.

“There’s very much destruction — Lysychansk is almost unrecognizable,” he wrote on Facebook.

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said late Saturday that Russian and Moscow-backed separatist forces now control Sievierodonetsk and the villages surrounding it. He said the attempt by Ukrainian forces to turn the Azot plant into a “stubborn center of resistance” had been thwarted.

Haidai confirmed Saturday that Sievierodonetsk had fallen to Russian and separatist fighters, who he said were now trying to blockade Lysychansk from the south.

Russia’s Interfax news agency quoted a spokesman for the separatist forces, Andrei Marochko, as saying Russian troops and separatist fighters had entered Lysychansk and that fighting was taking place in the heart of the city. There was no immediate comment on the claim from the Ukrainian side.

Lysychansk and Sievierodonetsk have been the focal point of a Russian offensive aimed at capturing all of the Donbas and destroying the Ukrainian military defending it — the most capable and battle-hardened segment of the country’s armed forces.

Capturing Lysychansk would give Russian forces control of every major settlement in the province, a significant step toward Russia’s aim of capturing the entire Donbas. The Russians and separatists control about half of Donetsk, the second province in the Donbas.

On Saturday, Russia also launched dozens of missiles on several areas across the country far from the heart of the eastern battles. Some of the missiles were fired from Russian long-range Tu-22 bombers deployed from Belarus for the first time, Ukraine’s air command said.

The bombardment preceded a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, during which Putin announced that Russia planned to supply Belarus with the Iskander-M missile system.
so tell me again why we refuse to give the Ukrainians missiles with the range to strike moscow? and explain to me, just so i can understand better, why it is ok for the russians to use missiles to hit the Ukrainian capital, but the Ukrainians aren't allowed to hit the russian capital? i say give them the longest range shit we have to give them, and let them level moscow over night. what are they going to do in retaliation? bomb Kyiv? oh, that's right, they already are....
the Ukrainians should wire all of Lysychansk with explosives, every building in the city, fight for it a few days, then withdraw. when the russians move in to occupy it, and get settled in good, destroy the entire city with them in it. it is worth the loss of the entire city to destroy several BTG worth of russian troops in one strike. the psychological value would be enormous, and the russians will end up paying to rebuild it, one way or another.
 

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so tell me again why we refuse to give the Ukrainians missiles with the range to strike moscow? and explain to me, just so i can understand better, why it is ok for the russians to use missiles to hit the Ukrainian capital, but the Ukrainians aren't allowed to hit the russian capital? i say give them the longest range shit we have to give them, and let them level moscow over night. what are they going to do in retaliation? bomb Kyiv? oh, that's right, they already are....
the Ukrainians should wire all of Lysychansk with explosives, every building in the city, fight for it a few days, then withdraw. when the russians move in to occupy it, and get settled in good, destroy the entire city with them in it. it is worth the loss of the entire city to destroy several BTG worth of russian troops in one strike. the psychological value would be enormous, and the russians will end up paying to rebuild it, one way or another.
I am of the opinion that they should get long range missiles and a half dozen nukes of various yields, getting progressively larger. Not that I would want them to use them, just something to keep in their back pocket.
 

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Russia Strikes Hit Kyiv Residential Building – Mayor

Russia's early morning strikes on Kyiv on Sunday killed one person and wounded six, including a seven-year-old girl, the Ukrainian capital's mayor said, updating the toll.

"A body was found. Six residents were wounded. Four of them were hospitalized, including a seven-year-old girl," Kyiv mayor Vitaly Klitschko said. The initial toll said that two people were wounded in the attacks, Russia's first strikes on the city in nearly three weeks.

Four explosions were heard at around 6:30 am (0330 GMT), half an hour after air raid sirens sounded in the capital, which has not come under Russian bombardment for nearly three weeks.

 

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Looks like Vlad wants to go all in, if Belarus attacks Ukraine, Poland might jump in or up their arms supplied to Ukraine. It will be more of an opportunity for the west than a problem, Ukraine is prepared for this. It could lead to a coup or mutiny in Belarus too.


Russia’s Putin strives to involve the army of Belarus in the war against Ukraine
23,445 views Jun 26, 2022 The Kremlin is preparing provocations in Belarus to force the self-proclaimed president Lukashenko to enter the war against Ukraine. The plans of the Russian leadership to repeat the old scenario in Mozyr with explosions of residential buildings are reported by Ukrainian intelligence to justify the invasion. But whether Lukashenko would dare to give the order to attack, under pressure from Putin, is yet to be found out.
 

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Looks like Canada might be into it now! Come on Sammy get off yer ass and move out!


Canadian special forces operating in Ukraine, New York Times reports
The Department of National Defence and the office of Defence Minister Anita Anand did not comment on the report

Canadian special forces are in Ukraine as part of a NATO network to provide weapons, training and gather intelligence about the Russians, the New York Times is reporting.

Neither the Department of National Defence nor the office of Defence Minister Anita Anand would comment on the report published Saturday that noted a few dozen commandos from NATO countries, including Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania, had been working inside Ukraine. The United States withdrew its own 150 military instructors before the war began in February.
 

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Is Putin winning? Hear secretary of state's response
263,463 views Jun 26, 2022 US Secretary of State Antony Blinken discusses Putin's invasion of Ukraine and where the war stands now.
 

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Oh sure a Bizillion dollars for war but no money for American Education, Universial Helth Care, Social Security improvements???
Not that I'm aginst helping Ukraine but what about American's problems? Killing Vlad would be a good start.
 

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AP source: US providing anti-air defense system to Ukraine
By ZEKE MILLER and GEIR MOULSON 6 minutes ago

ELMAU, Germany (AP) — President Joe Biden is set to announce that the U.S. is providing advanced an surface-to-air missile system to Ukraine, as well as additional artillery support, according to a person familiar with the matter, in the latest assistance meant to help the country defend against Russia’s four-month invasion.

The U.S. is purchasing NASAMS, a Norwegian-developed anti-aircraft system, to provide medium- to long-range defense, according to the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. NASAMS is the same system used by the U.S. to protect the sensitive airspace around the White House and U.S. Capitol in Washington.

Additional aid includes more ammunition for Ukrainian artillery, as well as counter-battery radars, to support its efforts against the Russian assault in the Donbas, the person said.

The announcement comes as Biden is huddling with allies this week on supporting Ukraine in meetings at the Group of Seven advanced economies summit in Germany and NATO leaders’ annual gathering in Madrid.
 

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Oh sure a Bizillion dollars for war but no money for American Education, Universial Helth Care, Social Security improvements???
Not that I'm aginst helping Ukraine but what about American's problems? Killing Vlad would be a good start.
Elect democrats if you want policies to change, nothing will happen with republicans except tax cuts for the rich and the end of social security. They have no solutions, but they do come with a lot of problems, put adults in charge and catch up to the civilized world FFS. If republicans gain power they will fuck the country and you too, if you think it's bad now, wait till these crooks gain power.
 
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Oh sure a Bizillion dollars for war but no money for American Education, Universial Helth Care, Social Security improvements???
Not that I'm aginst helping Ukraine but what about American's problems? Killing Vlad would be a good start.
If Jesus himself came down from Heaven and ran for office, if he had an R behind his name don't vote for him for dog catcher FFS!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Oh sure a Bizillion dollars for war but no money for American Education, Universial Helth Care, Social Security improvements???
Not that I'm aginst helping Ukraine but what about American's problems? Killing Vlad would be a good start.
federal, state and local governments spend 764 billion per year on K-12 schools...
the federal government spent 4.1 Trillion on healthcare in 2020...
they will spend more than 1.2 Trillion in 2022 on social security...
i think we can afford to help Ukrain survive against an attack from our own worst enemy, America makes many of it's own problems, and throwing money at them doesn't help.

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How Belarus is being used by Russia for its war on Ukraine | Askold Krushelnycky
51,546 views Jun 27, 2022 "Putin was disappointed and angry actually that Belarus didn't throw its army into the war directly." Times reporter Askold Krushelnycky says Russia has transferred "more powerful missiles and aeroplanes" to Belarus, from which attacks were launched on Chernihiv this weekend.
 
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