War

doublejj

Well-Known Member

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
There are estimates of 60K Russians KIA, but 50K seems to be the number US and UK intelligence estimate. I have no idea where the 6,800 number comes from, unless they mean 68K which might be close to reality than 6,800!


They fucked up the URL somehow

Elite Russian Intelligence Unit Suffers Major Losses in Ukraine – BBC
An elite, highly secretive Russian military intelligence unit may have lost up to three-quarters of its reconnaissance manpower in Ukraine, according to research published by the BBC’s Russian service Tuesday.

Like other special forces units, the exact size of the GRU intelligence agency’s 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade is classified.

But based on the brigade’s death toll and likely attrition rate tallied by BBC Russia, the outlet concluded that it may have lost 75% of its reconnaissance company troops.

Overall, the outlet said it has found direct and indirect evidence from publicly available sources on 56 soldiers from the 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade killed in the seven months since Russia invaded Ukraine.

One dead soldier’s sister told BBC Russia she believes there may have been more losses, saying: “Do you expect they’ll tell us about them?”

The GRU’s 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade appears to have suffered its highest losses so far in the latest retreat from eastern Ukraine’s key railway hub of Lyman last week.

Citing the soldiers’ relatives, BBC Russia reported that up to nine brigade members died while attempting to defend against the Ukrainian forces’ counteroffensive in Lyman.

“The entire 3rd Spetsnaz Brigade was laid to waste, thrown into the meat grinder,” one soldier’s unnamed relative was quoted as saying in a post on the Russian social media platform VKontakte.

The unit’s previous highest death toll in a single battle known publicly was in the early days of Russia’s invasion in March, when BBC Russia said four brigade soldiers had been killed.

One out of four 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade soldiers killed under the command of Col. Albert Omarov were officers, the outlet said.

The deaths of such soldiers are particularly problematic for the Russian Armed Forces because they are very costly to replace.

Russian state media and pro-Moscow military bloggers avoid reporting on the GRU units’ involvement in Ukraine, BBC Russia said, meaning information on reconnaissance soldiers’ deaths appears after the fact. Experts cited by the outlet say the special forces suffer additional losses because they are forced to carry out tasks outside their remit.

Russia claims to have lost fewer than 6,000 troops in the seven-month conflict with Ukraine, 20 times less than what it claims the Ukrainian military has lost.

BBC Russia’s joint tally with the independent Mediazona news website placed Russia’s death toll at nearly 6,800 soldiers by Sept. 25.
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
There are estimates of 60K Russians KIA, but 50K seems to be the number US and UK intelligence estimate. I have no idea where the 6,800 number comes from, unless they mean 68K which might be close to reality than 6,800!


They fucked up the URL somehow

Elite Russian Intelligence Unit Suffers Major Losses in Ukraine – BBC
An elite, highly secretive Russian military intelligence unit may have lost up to three-quarters of its reconnaissance manpower in Ukraine, according to research published by the BBC’s Russian service Tuesday.

Like other special forces units, the exact size of the GRU intelligence agency’s 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade is classified.

But based on the brigade’s death toll and likely attrition rate tallied by BBC Russia, the outlet concluded that it may have lost 75% of its reconnaissance company troops.

Overall, the outlet said it has found direct and indirect evidence from publicly available sources on 56 soldiers from the 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade killed in the seven months since Russia invaded Ukraine.

One dead soldier’s sister told BBC Russia she believes there may have been more losses, saying: “Do you expect they’ll tell us about them?”

The GRU’s 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade appears to have suffered its highest losses so far in the latest retreat from eastern Ukraine’s key railway hub of Lyman last week.

Citing the soldiers’ relatives, BBC Russia reported that up to nine brigade members died while attempting to defend against the Ukrainian forces’ counteroffensive in Lyman.

“The entire 3rd Spetsnaz Brigade was laid to waste, thrown into the meat grinder,” one soldier’s unnamed relative was quoted as saying in a post on the Russian social media platform VKontakte.

The unit’s previous highest death toll in a single battle known publicly was in the early days of Russia’s invasion in March, when BBC Russia said four brigade soldiers had been killed.

One out of four 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade soldiers killed under the command of Col. Albert Omarov were officers, the outlet said.

The deaths of such soldiers are particularly problematic for the Russian Armed Forces because they are very costly to replace.

Russian state media and pro-Moscow military bloggers avoid reporting on the GRU units’ involvement in Ukraine, BBC Russia said, meaning information on reconnaissance soldiers’ deaths appears after the fact. Experts cited by the outlet say the special forces suffer additional losses because they are forced to carry out tasks outside their remit.

Russia claims to have lost fewer than 6,000 troops in the seven-month conflict with Ukraine, 20 times less than what it claims the Ukrainian military has lost.

BBC Russia’s joint tally with the independent Mediazona news website placed Russia’s death toll at nearly 6,800 soldiers by Sept. 25.
that's just what they to they're masses at it were, it is up to 60K + and more injured and or captured

what a role in the NS1 attack huh, yeah nothing like covering up evidence of what u did.....
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
It is war. After I read about her, I came away believing she was the target, not her dad. Too funny watching the US diplomats clutch pearls and swoon over this.
I dunno why they thought she was an important target for this kind of action, I think we are missing sufficient motive here, something we are not seeing. They have not done this very often and she does not seem worth the effort or bad PR, all diplomats hate this shit!
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
To make a big bang over a distance ya need 1000 lbs of thrust with a turbo jet engine carrying a 1000lb plus warhead for a drone/cruise missile. Computers are also cheap these days and guidance using terrain mapping and photos is much easier to do, if your country isn't under sanctions, so is inertial guidance for a considerable distance too. If Iran can build these things and others, so can Ukraine and they can do a much better job since they make small turbojet engines already. The turbo jet engine for a cruise missile only has to last for a couple of hours at the most, so it need not be made of exotic materials and would be cheap and easy to make.


Iranian-supplied 'suicide drone' being used by Russians against Ukraine
105,994 views Oct 2, 2022 Russia is relying on Iranian loitering drones to try to regain a battlefield advantage. The Iranian Shahed-136 loitering munition has been widely reported as a 'suicide drone'. Russia has been using the Shahed-136 increasingly against the Ukrainians, in some part due to the contested air space over Ukraine.
it's time to slap some hefty sanctions on iran...it's actually way past time.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
I dunno why they thought she was an important target for this kind of action, I think we are missing sufficient motive here, something we are not seeing. They have not done this very often and she does not seem worth the effort or bad PR, all diplomats hate this shit!
they said that they were after her father, who is kind of a rasputinish character with some amount of influence over putin...they were supposed to be in the same vehicle, and apparently changed plans at the last minute for some reason.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I wonder if Vlad is seeing any of this video, if he is, this must burn is asshole like battery acid. He's short of equipment, and this might be the reason why. Ukraine might scoop up a massive amount of this shit near Kherson soon along with over 20K prisoners, prisoners count as casualties too and estimates are as high as 35K Russians are trapped there. The river is covered by M777 fire now and the drones are circling the crossing points like buzzards, day and night!
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I dunno why they thought she was an important target for this kind of action, I think we are missing sufficient motive here, something we are not seeing. They have not done this very often and she does not seem worth the effort or bad PR, all diplomats hate this shit!
The story I read aligned with what Roger said (see the above post). So I'm just riffing. Darya Durgina was a rising star in Russian Nationalist TV and had a large following. Her father is old school and although his books were widely read, he was not in the spotlight. Her father was a philosopher who wrote books. She was the face of a Russian imperialist movement. I think she was more of a threat than her father.

Echoing her father, Ms. Dugina’s public commentary provided an ideological framework for Mr. Putin’s aggressive foreign policy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/world/europe/daria-dugina-russia-politics.html
 
Top