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DIY-HP-LED

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Here is what attacking cities gets the Russians and they can be used to protect oil and gas infrastructure from missile attack too, after they get rid of the Russians in Ukraine. It will be displacing them as Europe's energy supplier that will be the heaviest blow to their economy and future and make Ukraine a fortress with modern arms and an aggressive attitude, just like the Baltic states and others who lived under the Russians. Meanwhile Russia will be selling oil where it can when sanctions are lifted, but by then Ukraine should have a lock on their markets for NG. China is looking at neighboring Kazakhstan, which as lots of NG and oil, but trouble exporting it. They gave them explicit security assurances and I'm sure pipelines will be added to the road and railway already built to there from China. No sanctions with these guys, they distanced themselves from Russia and are looking east.

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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It means they are short of missiles, if it took a lot of time to line up their ducks and assemble "combat" power for a sudden strike. Earlier in the war Vlad could have rained missiles on Ukraine with short notice, he has a lot of left-over cold war shit and modernized versions, but they are not infinite and there are multiple reports that he is running low of long-range missiles, small arms and artillery munitions. They still have a lot of shit, but few men and a piss poor organization that can't be reformed without reforming the government and even the culture first.

It's not affecting the fight on the battlefield though, or the flow of new motivated Ukrainian troops with more western equipment into the fight. It won't stop the Russian lend lease either and after this shit is over the Ukrainians should have enough of it to equip an army, if refurbished. Above all it won't stop the Ukrainians from kicking his ass out of Ukraine including Crimea and blowing up his pet bridge of further future conquest, that dream/nightmare is over.
 

printer

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interesting question......you would have to attach it somewhat to radar tracking systems, and pack it with a small explosive package of some kinda....once caught by tracking send it up and out to meet it...boom..
Testing and experience will determine that, the Iranian drones are prop driven, but built for speed, they seem to be doing a good and increasing job at bringing them down, they are in effect a cruise missile. Commercial quadcopters can be dealt with by jamming guns, but perhaps the plane type reconnaissance drones would be its target. The cost of destroying these things in a war should be cheaper than the cost of the target and a missile that costs a hundred times that of a drone and designed for manned aircraft with higher performance might not be the way forward. A variety of solutions are currently employed depending on the target and what is available to bring it down. This could also be a suicide drone for ground attack too and might be multipurpose, it is designed for high performance, like a fighter.
The devil is in the details. The mini-drones in the vid is a toy, I doubt it is carrying any payload which makes its speed easy to achieve. The drone will have to get reasonably close to its target or spray fragments at it. The problem is tracking. Because it is small and can fly low there is not a lot of time for the unit to be detected. The actual construction of the defence drone is the easiest part. It might be just as easy to build using traditional RC construction. Probably lighter.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The devil is in the details. The mini-drones in the vid is a toy, I doubt it is carrying any payload which makes its speed easy to achieve. The drone will have to get reasonably close to its target or spray fragments at it. The problem is tracking. Because it is small and can fly low there is not a lot of time for the unit to be detected. The actual construction of the defence drone is the easiest part. It might be just as easy to build using traditional RC construction. Probably lighter.
No doubt, the airframe design was the most important aspect for me, that and power with high performance, small commercial drones can lift useful explosive charges, thrust depends on power applied when all other condition are met, and batteries are improving rapidly and need not be rechargeable for this. The seeker and targeting are another issue but can be made lightweight these days too and include a proximity fusing, it would be the most expensive part, the rest is relatively cheap. If it's worth anything, it will get a chance to prove it in Ukraine. It might be used on winged drones flying high above but will need to compete with palatized light missile systems also being developed for this purpose operated from light trucks. Cost per kill is the key in a high usage war like Ukraine, though for valuable targets, cost per kill is of secondary importance, the cheapest cost per kill is electronic and anti-drone rifles seem suited to the small low lying commercial drones used for tactical reconnaissance and dropping small bombs. Those small truck mounted missiles would probably be best for Iranian drones going 200-300 MPH at 150 feet, those and manpads. It's a new kind of warfare, like airplanes in WW1 and things are evolving fast as their value is recognized.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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He makes a lot of good points, but night operations and drones along with good intelligence can help them to avoid trouble behind thinly held lines. They are only something used after a breakthrough is achieved and it wouldn't work for the Russians with the Ukrainian rear full of reservists and check points.


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DIY-HP-LED

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Ya can't make a deal with Putin, even when you've got him by the balls, he's got to go, his word is worthless, and he proved it many times. It is only gonna get worse for him and Russia from here on out, time to retire, if he can and survive, do it for the home team Vlad. Eating a bullet would be best, but he has no honor, he and those around him don't want to die, and the likelihood of that will go up the longer they stay in Ukraine, he stays around or does something stupid like using nukes.


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Bagginski

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It means they are short of missiles, if it took a lot of time to line up their ducks and assemble "combat" power for a sudden strike. Earlier in the war Vlad could have rained missiles on Ukraine with short notice, he has a lot of left-over cold war shit and modernized versions, but they are not infinite and there are multiple reports that he is running low of long-range missiles, small arms and artillery munitions. They still have a lot of shit, but few men and a piss poor organization that can't be reformed without reforming the government and even the culture first.
Since it’s come ‘round again, here’s a pretty solid look into Russia’s *actual* replacement/production capacity:
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Since it’s come ‘round again, here’s a pretty solid look into Russia’s *actual* replacement/production capacity:
Good read! Thank you.
 

Budzbuddha

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It means they are short of missiles, if it took a lot of time to line up their ducks and assemble "combat" power for a sudden strike. Earlier in the war Vlad could have rained missiles on Ukraine with short notice, he has a lot of left-over cold war shit and modernized versions, but they are not infinite and there are multiple reports that he is running low of long-range missiles, small arms and artillery munitions. They still have a lot of shit, but few men and a piss poor organization that can't be reformed without reforming the government and even the culture first.

It's not affecting the fight on the battlefield though, or the flow of new motivated Ukrainian troops with more western equipment into the fight. It won't stop the Russian lend lease either and after this shit is over the Ukrainians should have enough of it to equip an army, if refurbished. Above all it won't stop the Ukrainians from kicking his ass out of Ukraine including Crimea and blowing up his pet bridge of further future conquest, that dream/nightmare is over.
As I lurk various information sources , it seems that VLAD has significantly used up major ( PGM ) precision guided missiles in inventory , as much as 70% . Missiles he cannot keep manufacturing. Hard line sanctions against important electronic components have severely cut production. Evidence shows that his use of less accurate Iranian “ suicide / loitering “ drones ( Shahed ) illustrate that more sophisticated weaponry is becoming used up. Each of those drones have basically 80 pound explosive heads and fly at 120 miles an hour. Their range is up to 600 miles. Shahed’s navigation and terminal accuracy are based on commercial GPS systems. Both can be thwarted if the GPS is jammed, blocked, or turned off. Further, its ability to only carry a warhead between 5-30 kgs limits its strike capabilities.

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Reminiscent of German “ buzz bombs “ in there attack , these Iranian propeller driven drones routinely get shot down with air defense shoulder weapons and munitions. Putin‘s purchase of these flying bombs and possible North Korean rockets and munitions highlight his desperation. However , intel has stated Russia has at least 1000 - 2000 tactical nukes and upward of 5900 strategic total. In the late 1970’s they were listed as high as 46,000 nukes at peak. A ridiculous super villain amount by any means. Estimates in cost for his “ Russian blitz “ range from $400-700 million dollars.

Easily the same cost as a super yacht , but definitely a cost that may not be sustainable . Although hard to determine which North Korean systems would benefit them , most are similar to existing Russian versions. Sources also state very low supplies of ammo , gear and track vehicles.

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Budzbuddha

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As dated as this tech is nowadays - I manned the FAAR systems in field for early patriot - chapparal missile systems / Nike Herc.
Old MOS 16 Juliet before being absorbed into patriot systems. Had the Gamma Goat and all.

Good times in that mobile shack. Listening to radio chatter and code books .
Battlefield survivability was extremely low - as radar locking weapons could find it.
‘Rammstein.

Kind of miss the ol goat - it was pretty fun in the sand / dirt ( Fort Irwin ).

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