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CCGNZ

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My daughter had a job about 2 years ago assembling Trump pens made in China.

She quit as soon as she had a replacement gig.
Wow,life dictates needing the $$$,bet you popped a cork when she ended that gig,the guy is hawking so much shit he rivals WMart. All this from a guy who said he'd donate his presidential salary,suprised I can't wipe my ass w/branded Mr. Orange image t.paper.All this bragging about his riches and he'll schill anything for a buck,doesn't add up. And still supported by mindless legions of "believers" a serious rival to all the evangelical scheysters.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Biden won't send planes......They need air cover
The Russian's don't have much in the air and the air over their turf is too dangerous for the Russians, also they are forcing them away from Ukraine with drone attacks on their bases. Russian tactical air won't stop a Ukrainian Blitzkrieg and hasn't showed up yet, Joe will get around to it, meanwhile there is an astounding bunch of shit going into Ukraine and something tells me they have been using much of the previous stuff given to train on for the new shit that is arriving by the train load. When mud season is over all Hell is gonna break loose on the Russians, if they have any tanks left over, we could see a repeat of the battle of Kursk, only this time the Russians won't come off too well. They are training on the sandy lands waiting for shit to be deployed and preparing for the coming spring and summer offensives. Wearing down the Russian attacks while they wait by inflicting mass casualties on them from defensive positions using artillery and mortars suits their purpose for now.
 

doublejj

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The Russian's don't have much in the air and the air over their turf is too dangerous for the Russians, also they are forcing them away from Ukraine with drone attacks on their bases. Russian tactical air won't stop a Ukrainian Blitzkrieg and hasn't showed up yet, Joe will get around to it, meanwhile there is an astounding bunch of shit going into Ukraine and something tells me they have been using much of the previous stuff given to train on for the new shit that is arriving by the train load. When mud season is over all Hell is gonna break loose on the Russians, if they have any tanks left over, we could see a repeat of the battle of Kursk, only this time the Russians won't come off too well. They are training on the sandy lands waiting for shit to be deployed and preparing for the coming spring and summer offensives. Wearing down the Russian attacks while they wait by inflicting mass casualties on them from defensive positions using artillery and mortars suits their purpose for now.
Without air cover they are fighting WW1 style.....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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gotta train the pilots, and personally i would rather see attach helo's aka Apache go
Yep, they need tactical air and low and slow is the way to go, the Russians don't seem to have much of an air threat. The Ukrainians would like them to get it in the air so they can destroy them, S300 AA missiles can reach hundreds of kilometers.
 

CCGNZ

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Biden won't send planes......They need air cover
Just on the news today,2 Ukranian pilots being trained in US aircraft simulators in AZ,10 more to follow ,this combined w/UK training Ukranian pilots means something is cooking. I think main concern is Biden is concerned jets will be used to conduct raids possibly deep into Russia,even w/ Ukranian assurance,once they have decent gen 4 jets it has to be enticing to them to have 3-4 F-16's fly at treetop level and possibly drop a few on Moscow for the symbolism(a modern day Doolittle morale booster). That would possibly make Joe have a stroke w/the escalation risk.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Without air cover they are fighting WW1 style.....
It will be an equal fight largely confined to the ground except for drones which the Ukrainians have a serious advantage in. I think the air will come later, right now they don't need it since the Russian air is almost nonexistent and they have so many advantages on the ground right now with equipment, training and accurate artillery. The Russians are fucked this spring I figure and sometimes you'd rather choke the fucker to death with yer bare hands than shoot him from a distance! :lol:
 

CCGNZ

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gotta train the pilots, and personally i would rather see attach helo's aka Apache go
Some Cobra attack copters,possibly the models preceeding the Cobra Zulu in reserve would be a serious upgrade from the MI8's and MI24's that they are now using.And the West wouldn't worry so much agout the technology issues w/a downed Apache. Cobra's can fire hellfire missiles also and carry sidewinders for defence which I"m not sure the Apache does. The precision of the hellfire or even old tows would seriously upgrade the dumb unguided rockets the Ukranian Soviet choppers are using.
 

doublejj

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It will be an equal fight largely confined to the ground except for drones which the Ukrainians have a serious advantage in. I think the air will come later, right now they don't need it since the Russian air is almost nonexistent and they have so many advantages on the ground right now with equipment, training and accurate artillery. The Russians are fucked this spring I figure and sometimes you'd rather choke the fucker to death with yer bare hands than shoot him from a distance! :lol:
Huge losses on both sides in WW1.....unnecessary.
the Kill ratio would be 50-1 with proper air support
 
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doublejj

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Some Cobra attack copters,possibly the models preceeding the Cobra Zulu in reserve would be a serious upgrade from the MI8's and MI24's that they are now using.And the West wouldn't worry so much agout the technology issues w/a downed Apache. Cobra's can fire hellfire missiles also and carry sidewinders for defence which I"m not sure the Apache does. The precision of the hellfire or even old tows would seriously upgrade the dumb unguided rockets the Ukranian Soviet choppers are using.
Hand held RPG's easily shoot down helo's....google Extortion 17
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Huge losses on both sides in WW1.....unnecessary.
the Kill ratio would be 50-1 with proper air support
Hey, an AC 130 would be just the thing for those pesky human wave attacks, or a few old warthogs, but the idea is to destroy the Russian army, not make them run away too quickly or be so pissed they would use a nuke. If the Ukrainians do it alone, they will never fear the Russians again and the Russians will fear them. To take ground you must operate on the ground, air power helps that, and drones seem to be doing the job for recon and local air support for now. I dunno if it was planned this way in the beginning, but a plan evolved to slowly suck the Russian army into Ukraine and destroy it, they have over 90% in already by some reports. It will end their ability to project power beyond their borders, destroy their economy, probably get rid of Putin and lead to the dissolution of the Russian empire. What more do ya want? :lol: Destroying the Russian army in Ukraine completely is the best long-term security they and the European's can have. They will be licking their bleeding asshole a for a decade after this screwing. :lol:

You want revenge for Russia inflicting Trump on America, you got it! :lol:
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Wow,life dictates needing the $$$,bet you popped a cork when she ended that gig,the guy is hawking so much shit he rivals WMart. All this from a guy who said he'd donate his presidential salary,suprised I can't wipe my ass w/branded Mr. Orange image t.paper.All this bragging about his riches and he'll schill anything for a buck,doesn't add up. And still supported by mindless legions of "believers" a serious rival to all the evangelical scheysters.
If he had branded adult diapers, you could imagine how poorly they’d work. A flagship example of trickle-down economics.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Ukrainians are claiming a 7:1 ratio in casualties and it appears to be supported by several reports. When one considers the half million Russians who ran away abroad rather than fight, it drives their loses through the roof! They might as well be dead as far as the Russian army is concerned.


Ukraine War: Themes emerging out of Ukrainian warzones

137,039 views Mar 6, 2023 #ukraine #russia #skynews
Sky News military analyst, retired Air Vice-Marshal Sean Bell, examines statements made by the head of Russia's Wagner mercenary group, who are "making limited progress".

This comes after the UK Ministry of Defence claimed Russian soldiers have taken to fighting with shovels.

The most "ferocious" fighting continues around the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Putin's offensive has 'petered out' | Maj. Gen. Rupert Jones

13,596 views Mar 6, 2023
"The Ukrainians are really the winners in this... they've fixed the Russians there for about six months."

Holding the Russians at Bakhmut for six months will be a victory for Ukraine regardless of wether they keep the town, says Former UK Standing Joint Force Commander Major General Rupert Jones.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hear retired admiral’s prediction for Russia’s military after prolonged battle in Bakhmut

76,716 views Mar 6, 2023 #CNN #News
Former US Joint Chiefs Chairman Mike Mullen tells Christiane Amanpour that the longer the Ukraine war goes on, the more difficult it becomes.
 
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