War

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"The impact of the Soviet declaration of war and invasion of Manchuria and Sakhalin Island was quite different, however. Once the Soviet Union had declared war, Stalin could no longer act as a mediator — he was now a belligerent. So the diplomatic option was wiped out by the Soviet move. The effect on the military situation was equally dramatic. Most of Japan’s best troops had been shifted to the southern part of the home islands. Japan’s military had correctly guessed that the likely first target of an American invasion would be the southernmost island of Kyushu. The once proud Kwangtung army in Manchuria, for example, was a shell of its former self because its best units had been shifted away to defend Japan itself. When the Russians invaded Manchuria, they sliced through what had once been an elite army and many Russian units only stopped when they ran out of gas. The Soviet 16th Army — 100,000 strong — launched an invasion of the southern half of Sakhalin Island. Their orders were to mop up Japanese resistance there, and then — within 10 to 14 days — be prepared to invade Hokkaido, the northernmost of Japan’s home islands. The Japanese force tasked with defending Hokkaido, the 5th Area Army, was under strength at two divisions and two brigades, and was in fortified positions on the east side of the island. The Soviet plan of attack called for an invasion of Hokkaido from the west".


It didn’t take a military genius to see that, while it might be possible to fight a decisive battle against one great power invading from one direction, it would not be possible to fight off two great powers attacking from two different directions. The Soviet invasion invalidated the military’s decisive battle strategy, just as it invalidated the diplomatic strategy. At a single stroke, all of Japan’s options evaporated. The Soviet invasion was strategically decisive

Lucky Luke said:

always a good read


"The impact of the Soviet declaration of war and invasion of Manchuria and Sakhalin Island was quite different, however. Once the Soviet Union had declared war, Stalin could no longer act as a mediator — he was now a belligerent. So the diplomatic option was wiped out by the Soviet move. The effect on the military situation was equally dramatic. Most of Japan’s best troops had been shifted to the southern part of the home islands. Japan’s military had correctly guessed that the likely first target of an American invasion would be the southernmost island of Kyushu. The once proud Kwangtung army in Manchuria, for example, was a shell of its former self because its best units had been shifted away to defend Japan itself. When the Russians invaded Manchuria, they sliced through what had once been an elite army and many Russian units only stopped when they ran out of gas. The Soviet 16th Army — 100,000 strong — launched an invasion of the southern half of Sakhalin Island. Their orders were to mop up Japanese resistance there, and then — within 10 to 14 days — be prepared to invade Hokkaido, the northernmost of Japan’s home islands. The Japanese force tasked with defending Hokkaido, the 5th Area Army, was under strength at two divisions and two brigades, and was in fortified positions on the east side of the island. The Soviet plan of attack called for an invasion of Hokkaido from the west".


It didn’t take a military genius to see that, while it might be possible to fight a decisive battle against one great power invading from one direction, it would not be possible to fight off two great powers attacking from two different directions. The Soviet invasion invalidated the military’s decisive battle strategy, just as it invalidated the diplomatic strategy. At a single stroke, all of Japan’s options evaporated. The Soviet invasion was strategically decisive

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The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan. Stalin Did.

Have 70 years of nuclear policy been based on a lie?

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Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi invasion. Totaling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the “enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy

• 400,000 jeeps & trucks
• 14,000 airplanes
• 8,000 tractors
• 13,000 tanks
• 1.5 million blankets
• 15 million pairs of army boots
• 107,000 tons of cotton
• 2.7 million tons of petrol products
• 4.5 million tons of food

Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?


On February 24, 1943, a Douglas C-47 Skytrain transport aircraft with serial number 42-32892 rolled out of a factory in Long Beach, California, and was handed over to the U.S. Air Force.

On March 12, 1943, the plane was given to the Soviet Air Force in Fairbanks, Alaska, and given the registration USSR-N238. From there, it flew 5,650 kilometers to the Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk, one of some 14,000 aircraft sent by the United States to the Soviet Union during World War II under the massive Lend-Lease program.

doublejj said:

Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi invasion. Totaling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the “enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy

• 400,000 jeeps & trucks
• 14,000 airplanes
• 8,000 tractors
• 13,000 tanks
• 1.5 million blankets
• 15 million pairs of army boots
• 107,000 tons of cotton
• 2.7 million tons of petrol products
• 4.5 million tons of food

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yep we were all allies against the Nazis. The British with Roosevelt created the American armaments industry as we now it today and then The japs bombed Pearl- Hitler was said to be furious.
Stalin is believed by many to of asked for more than he needed. Winter killed the German chance along with an army that was not properly supplied. Silly move by Hitler but he needed the farmlands to feed Germany. They were starving as the French fields magically didn't produce anything.
You can clearly see how close was Russia to an undefended back door. The Japanese still want their islands back.

America entering the war officially was a big deal- shaved years off the war but more importantly- just like in Ukraine it was a big supplier of equipment even if was just food.

Nazi party wasnt small in the states either. Interesting read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund

Looks strangely like Trumptards today?

doublejj said:

Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?


On February 24, 1943, a Douglas C-47 Skytrain transport aircraft with serial number 42-32892 rolled out of a factory in Long Beach, California, and was handed over to the U.S. Air Force.

On March 12, 1943, the plane was given to the Soviet Air Force in Fairbanks, Alaska, and given the registration USSR-N238. From there, it flew 5,650 kilometers to the Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk, one of some 14,000 aircraft sent by the United States to the Soviet Union during World War II under the massive Lend-Lease program.

'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?

Ever since the Cold War, many Soviet and Russian politicians and academics have downplayed the role that U.S.-provided weapons and supplies played in the Red Army's ultimately victorious campaign against Hitler's Germany. But there is substantial evidence that the huge influx of materiel made an...

www.rferl.org

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Still going strong after all these years...
Wonder what happed to this alliance..

Lend-Lease


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Lend-Lease, formally the Lend-Lease Act and introduced as An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States, was a policy under which the United States supplied the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, France, China, and other Allied nations with food, oil, and materiel between 1941 and 1945. Wikipedia

Republicans havent changed.

Lend-Lease proposal[edit]
After a decade of neutrality, Roosevelt knew that the change to Allied support must be gradual, given the support for isolationism in the country. Originally, the American policy was to help the British but not join the war. During early February 1941, a Gallup poll revealed that 54% of Americans were in favor of giving aid to the British without qualifications of Lend-Lease. A further 15% were in favor of qualifications such as: "If it doesn't get us into war," or "If the British can give us some security for what we give them." Only 22% were unequivocally against the President's proposal. When poll participants were asked their party affiliation, the poll revealed a political divide: 69% of Democrats were unequivocally in favor of Lend-Lease, whereas only 38% of Republicans favored the bill without qualification. At least one poll spokesperson also noted that "approximately twice as many Republicans" gave "qualified answers as ... Democrats."[17]

Opposition to the Lend-Lease bill was strongest among isolationist Republicans in Congress, who feared the measure would be "the longest single step this nation has yet taken toward direct involvement in the war abroad". When the House of Representatives finally took a roll call vote on February 9, 1941, the 260 to 165 vote was largely along party lines. Democrats voted 238 to 25 in favor and Republicans 24 in favor and 135 against

doublejj said:

Old myth? That doesn't make sense, why wouldn't they? Australia had nothing to stop them in 1942. If the US hadn't sunk the 4 Japanese carriers on June 5th at Midway, Japan would have kept on going south. There were only a couple of large cities in Australia and they would have bombed them into submission is short order. Go look at what they were doing to Manchuria at the time and China had a population of 500 million in 1942.

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Bomb our cities into submission in 1940's? Don't you recon the 3 main cities at the time could of just moved inland a bit? We are a tad wider than the English channel
Dude on land Japan was in trouble no matter how great its fleet was. Manchuria was Russian controlled two months later. Took them 2 weeks.... For Japan it was over.
Like the Germans the Japanese were starving.

@doublejj
Did you know about the Midget submarine attacks Sydney had?

Lucky Luke said:

@doublejj
Do you actually believe that Ukraine will roll back Russia to its old borders before annexation this Spring?

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I listen to the experts, in particular this guy, who has been right more than most.


Hodges: 'Ukraine will liberate Crimea by the end of August IF...' | DW News

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A collection of leaked US intelligence documents suggest Ukraine's air defenses could soon run out of missiles.
The reports dating from February appeared on social media sites and appeared to detail US and NATO aid to Ukraine. Their contents suggest the US has been spying on both Russia and Ukraine's military, and gathering intelligence on its NATO allies. The US Justice Department is scrambling to find the source of the leak, with officials saying Russia or Pro-Russian supporters are likely behind it.

Lucky Luke said:

Thats just speculation. Russia attacking a Nato country is probably far fetched and would bring a war into Russian territory.

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Why don't you ask the opinion of Russia's neighbors? There is a reason the eastern Europeans hate their guts and are all in for Ukraine, perhaps you should consider that too, America is not without very enthusiastic allies, and they have that attitude for a reason, Bucha confirmed it. Russia is going to be defeated and driven from all of Ukraine including Crimea and the rail bridges will be destroyed inside Russia to keep them out for years. Vlad had better suck it up and get used to the idea of being a loser and Russians had better be prepared for some very hard times in the coming years. They brought this upon themselves, no one else is to blame, not Uncle Sam and not the Europeans and certainly not NATO a defensive alliance by law.

The westerners fighting in Ukraine are all ex-soldiers, volunteers who believed in something enough to die for it, even though they didn't need to, the Ukrainians need to, however.

Lucky Luke said:

The vast majority of wars end up concluding on the negotiating table are they not?

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This one will too, but Ukraine will be holding all the cards and they will be out of all of Ukraine before they even consider sitting down to talk with them. Right now, the choice is simple, leave or die, soon that choice will be removed. Wait until fall, until it's mostly over, then we will see where we stand, but Russia will be blead to death before it is over because by all reports Vald has gone mad.

doublejj said:

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1,000 Chechen Fighters Join Ukrainian Army In Fighting Putin, Liberating Ukraine; Slam 'TikTok Troops'

1,000 Chechen Fighters Join Ukrainian Army In Fighting Putin, Liberating Ukraine

Some 1,000 Chechen fighters have joined the Dzhokar Dudayev battalion and are fighting against Russians in the war in Ukraine.

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They are there for the training and experience, they have business back home when this shit is over, and Russia is weak.

Russian military reserves shrink as Ukraine gathers forces for an attack

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Offensive actions by the Russian occupation troops in the Donetsk region have been going on for 9 months already, including Bakhmut and Avdiivka. Such large-scale and long lasting offensive operations demand numerous manpower from the enemy. And it is not endless. Our correspondents have found out more details for you.

Lucky Luke said:

Lets be frank NATO is the US...If the US leaves NATO is kinda shit. US pretty much rules the NATO.

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If that were so, there would be no Eurofighter.

Lucky Luke said:

Since 1945 America has been in 5 major wars. Korea, Vietnam, The gulf war. Iraq, Afghanistan. Only the gulf war might be considered a success. And the result of the Gulf war is a shit fight and huge problems that persist today.

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We don't engage in wars with clear objectives. Spreading a lil capitalism in the form of "freedom/democracy" is what it is.

I do have faith in our ability to kill shit like nobody else.

Lucky Luke said:

Lets be frank NATO is the US...If the US leaves NATO is kinda shit. US pretty much rules the NATO.

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that is strictly your biases talking...and it's pretty fucking insulting to Europe.
While the US has the largest economy and the largest military budget, in a fairly apportioned NATO, all states give the same percentage of their budgets to protect ALL of their interests. All states also get an equal voice, and the right to withdraw their troops if that is their ultimate decision.

Lucky Luke said:

Id love a quick ending but I'm a realist and think its going to be a long war. It might have the odd pause but the war isnt going anywhere unless Putin dies or Ukraine has a much more pro Russian gov. Which could happen at the next Ukraine election.

LED has been saying every day or two that Russia is about to collapse and Ukraine will be victorious in a week/month/100 days. Time is more on Russia's side than Ukraine's.

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Pro Russian, after they went after the infastructure in order to freeze out the Ukrainians, on top of the war? Please come back down to reality.

Lucky Luke said:

Time is more on Russia's side than Ukraine's.

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Time WAS more on russia's side, than Ukraine's....I do not think that is accurate any longer. While i do not think the US or the EU will give less aid, they have already given enough, as long as the sanctions remain in place. Russia already has MAJOR problems with manpower, equipment, ammunition...I think the worst that could happen at this point is a stalemate with russia withdrawing from a large part of the donetsk region, to reinforce Crimea, and i find that highly unlikely.
The current administrations in the US and apparently most of the EU member countries see it the same way. russia has always been a threat. This is a way to get rid of that threat without losing their own personnel and at a small fraction of the cost of an actual war.

Here is the choice and what life is like for one of Putin's slaves in his army of unwoke assholes. Now do you understand why many would rather die than submit? The criminality of even suggesting that Ukraine give up citizens to this? Time to get yer head out of yer asshole if you think they or we can deal with Putin.

They will be defeated on the battlefield this spring and summer; we are not wasting our time and resources after a very careful assessment of the situation. The panic coming out of Moscow speaks volumes about their confidence in withstanding the onslaught that will soon overtake them. Like the second coming the timing will remain a mystery until it happens.

All I can say about predicting the future, is Gen Ben Hodges figures they will be out of Crimea by fall, and he is more optimistic than me, but he has been right more than everybody else.