Weird, good guys with guns stop bad guys

FDD2BLK pretending to be a woman said:

In 2014, 9,967 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes

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StevieBevie said:

In 2014, 9,967 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes

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A couple of generations ago, drunk driving was a joke, almost expected to have accidents. In 1980 there were 25,000 drunk driving deaths. Since then, laws and education have put social awareness and pressure on people to not drive drunk. It doesn't stop it but the rates have gone down considerably.

The number of deaths due to guns this year is already 7500, so maybe by the end of the year, will be around 15,000. If we feel that drunk driving is such a bad thing that we passed laws, worked to educate people and make them more aware of that problem and hold people responsible for their actions while driving, then why not guns?

I'm not talking about taking people's guns away. But I'm not saying nothing can be done either. I see nothing wrong with making people responsible for that gun even if it's stolen and used to hurt somebody unless you can prove the safe it had been stored in was busted open. That means every gun is linked to an owner who is legally responsible for it and sales are tracked. Also, better background checks and regular licensing of gun owners along the lines of owning a car. We don't just let people drive around town without proving they understand the laws, why not gun owners? We require cars be licensed too.

Fogdog said:

horseshit. you guys are trying to silence the messenger. I have absolutely the right to work with others to fix your problem. I don't want to but that's what will happen eventually if you guys don't wise up.

I don't understand why you seem to think that 200 US lives are lost every day to gun violence is acceptable. That's not freedom. Fewer than a hundred lives were lost in Nice, France and the world mourns. So, yeah, there is a problem. Gun owners are taking the matter too lightly. Similar to drunk drivers about 30 years ago.

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You keep calling it my problem but I am a responsible gun owner. Are you going to demand access to my house to prove it?

NLXSK1 said:

You keep calling it my problem but I am a responsible gun owner. Are you going to demand access to my house to prove it?

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I don't own a gun. My owning a gun doesn't cause you any increased risk. It is a fact that the average gun owner causes a risk many times beyond any protective benefit. The safety risk they cause is to themselves and the people around them by putting that gun in that household.

I'm not the one to say how it should be done because my answer would be: don't own guns, they make most people less safe. You and other gun owners should own your question regarding "how". You want to own a gun even though statistically it causes a risk to everybody around you. I want you and other gun owners to reduce the risk they cause to at least that of other developed western nations. How you would do that is up to you. At least for now.

Well, dang. I put FDD2BLK on ignore because they were a waste of time and a drag to read. I'll just do the same to stevie. From what I've read there will be no loss in doing so.

Well dang, please do. I simply stated a fact. Nothing more or less. You seem to like to read more into it than what I posted which is your prerogative, but that is in your brain, not in my post...and this stupid FDD thing you are all hung up on, well I guess this person really got under you folks skin, but you need to move on, appears he did...