Weird, good guys with guns stop bad guys

A time delay isn't harder just a longer wait. Criminals will always do what they need to commit crime they don't give a fuck about their impact on society. Our responsibility is to weigh the frequency of the crimes committed with "assault" rifles versus they're availability and determine what the tipping point is. The gun lobby shouldnt have as much power as they do in this discussion.
The gun isn't the issue, the man behind it can be, and like I said, the wait does nothing. If I were going to plan an attack, I would just account for the waiting period. Cool down periods are meant to deter hot blooded shootings, not cold blooded ones.
 
The gun isn't the issue, the man behind it can be, and like I said, the wait does nothing. If I were going to plan an attack, I would just account for the waiting period. Cool down periods are meant to deter hot blooded shootings, not cold blooded ones.
I don't own a gun, I don't want to interfere with anybody else's right to own one. What I'm asking is why should the US be such an outlier when it comes to death and injury rates related to firearms? Pick whichever category you want -- accidents, domestic violence, or crime and you'll see that the US has by far the highest rates of firearm related deaths and injuries for that category compared to any other developed western nation.

  • 33% of all gun owners don't follow simple guidelines posted by the NRA that if followed would practically eliminate in-home firearm accidents involving children.
  • If guns were locked away in a secure safe, it would practically eliminate gun theft. In addition to locking the gun in that safe, securing the ammunition somewhere else would practically eliminate most accidents.
  • Gun purchases don't all have to be screened for background checks and the ones that are screened are done by agencies that are woefully underfunded and have a ridiculously short limit on the time allowed. Improved funding and increased time for background checks to reduce availability of guns to non-qualified owners I would think should also be part of the solution. Any man that ever laid hands on a woman or child in domestic violence should be on that list.

These are a few examples of how the public and lawmakers can solve many of the problems that are links in the failure-chain that leads to gun related death and injury. Some of them don't even require legislation, just social pressure to get people to think about what they are doing as completely unacceptable, such as leaving a loaded gun in the glove box of a car. Or storing the weapon in a kitchen drawer with the ammunition.

I can't do anything other than ask for legislation, because I don't own a gun. Instead of saying nuh-uh, second amendment, why don't gun owners take ownership of this problem? I think that gun owners can do a better job of solving the problem than politicians. But there is no movement in that area. Eventually, non-gun owners will lose patience.
 
Am I the only somewhat-left-of-center guy here that believes in the right to bear arms? I feel like most of my peers are the opposite, typically. Probably the only or one of very few things from the Right that I support. Of course, I also firmly believe you have to be responsible and respect the weapon.
You are not alone. I do believe we have the right to bear arms and I do for protection on my property, I live out in the country now and with the police 30 minutes from our home I think it is necessary, and also for snakes, and any other strange thing that could happen...womens-selfdefense.jpg
 
I appreciate you guys handling me differently. Because I'm not like "No, you can't have our guns! Fuck you!" I see both sides. I just can't fathom or support the idea of disarming at such a critical point. This entire country is about to go completely Helter Skelter. You're going to want to keep the wolves away.
 
I appreciate you guys handling me differently. Because I'm not like "No, you can't have our guns! Fuck you!" I see both sides. I just can't fathom or support the idea of disarming at such a critical point. This entire country is about to go completely Helter Skelter. You're going to want to keep the wolves away.

While people say they want intelligent conversation here, you actually provide it.

The others are like one giant cancerous mass with mulitiple assholes bleating out racist misinformation.
 
While people say they want intelligent conversation here, you actually provide it.

The others are like one giant cancerous mass with mulitiple assholes bleating out racist misinformation.
I try to be as objective as possible. I'm human, so there may be a time when I get hung up on something, but if I'm wrong, I'll usually be the first to apologize. I just don't see a point in polarizing this site worse than it is, and contributing further to this breakdown in communication that's leading the world seemingly very rapidly towards what looks like total destruction, or at least mass hysteria. I'm no one's enemy but for the man or woman who chooses to engage me in an attempt on my life. Any opinion is personal and none of my business to argue against.

Thank you for your acknowledgement, though. I appreciate it.
 
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I try to be as objective as possible. I'm human, so there may be a time when I get hung up on something, but if I'm wrong, I'll usually be the first to apologize. I just don't see a point in polarizing this site worse than it is, and contributing further to this breakdown in communication that's leading the world seemingly very rapidly towards what looks like total destruction, or at least mass hysteria. I'm no one's enemy but for the man or woman who chooses to engage me in an attempt on my life. Any opinion is personal and none of my business to argue against.

Thank you for your acknowledgement, though. I appreciate it.
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