UncleBuck
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yep, sure is. only took several dozen "good guys" (LOL) with a fucking robot, thereby proving it only takes a good guy with a gun.
and you expect to be taken seriously?
Weird, good guys with guns stop bad guys
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yep, sure is. only took several dozen "good guys" (LOL) with a fucking robot, thereby proving it only takes a good guy with a gun.
and you expect to be taken seriously?
Fogdog
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We care how you feel, why?
Only about 33% of US households contain a gun. The super majority of non-gun owners in this society are less and less satisfied with the death numbers you find acceptable. Your stand on this issue is a losing one unless gun owners take ownership of reducing gun related deaths to approach other countries. That you don't care about those deaths is irrelevant. Eventually non gun owners will take steps to reduce gun violence and you won't like it. Just saying, the best possible thing to happen regarding this issue is that gun owners fix it. If gun owners don't then some pretty sloppy laws will be written by people who really don't care about your desire to own a super killing machine.
Then you will cry like a heartbroken little girl. And I will laugh.
Rob Roy
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Rob Roy
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He's a pretty bright guy, but just needs to get a haircut and a real job.
Flaming Pie
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Source?
Oh shit next hot button issue.
Do fetuses have the right to own guns?
Republican 1:
If it can pull the trigger in the womb then technically it's alive.
Republican 2:
How do we test that?
Republican 2: Easy we stick a Derringer with blanks in a womans's vagina, (no anesthesia, we want the woman to feel the cold steel) conduct an ultrasound, if the baby pulls the trigger it is viable.
Republicans: Yea
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UncleBuck
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OMFG you are slow.
if you can't immediately write that off as batshit insane right wing paranoia and delusion then there is just no hope for you whatsoever.
StevieBevie
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They sure do!!!
StevieBevie
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No babies can't own guns...
Olive Drab Green
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Am I the only somewhat-left-of-center guy here that believes in the right to bear arms? I feel like most of my peers are the opposite, typically. Probably the only or one of very few things from the Right that I support. Of course, I also firmly believe you have to be responsible and respect the weapon.
I think certain weapons should Be available to all ctizens such as rifles pistols shotguns. As you go up the firepower chain certain cnditions should Have to be met. What Those Are I'll leave to better minds right now.
Olive Drab Green
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That exists, though. Assault rifles are just rifles under the ATF unless they have a short barrel or automatic selective fire or a silencer, in which case you need a Class III. For that, you have to wait two years after paying for what you want and waiting for the paperwork and tax stamp to clear. The "assault rifles" typically used are semi-auto, not full-auto. Most guns in general are semi-auto if not manually loaded.
The semi auto large capacity stuff needs a 3 day check or cooling off period. I think that would be a good compromise between expediency and safety. That way you can still buy your gun before the weekend hunting trip.
An arms race with hypothetical criminals isn't a good enough reason to stockpile weapons.
An arms race with hypothetical criminals isn't a good enough reason to stockpile weapons.
Olive Drab Green
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Theoretical? They're real. I'm not saying you should be hypervigilant at all times, just that you should have a fighting chance if a situation arises. Mags are not regulated and shouldn't be. And any "cooling off" period is more about preventing hot headed individuals from making a split second decision to kill someone they are angry with. It doesn't take into account any type of methodical, calculating conspirator/terrorist.
Olive Drab Green
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The right to bear arms was never about hunting, it was about combating tyranny and oppression and defending yourself. I dunno why some of you get hung up on the hunting thing.
True but the proposed no fly list crosscheck should. Waiting 3 days at a time would stop lone wolves from stockpiling them.
If a criminal were to Rob your house with an AK aren't you within pistol range or shotgun range in that situation? And if someone is spraying your house from the outside what good would that AK do you? I'm still not for banning them Just making them a little harder to get.
If a criminal were to Rob your house with an AK aren't you within pistol range or shotgun range in that situation? And if someone is spraying your house from the outside what good would that AK do you? I'm still not for banning them Just making them a little harder to get.
Olive Drab Green
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That only makes them harder to get for people who abide the law, not criminals. I can walk into town and buy a throwaway for a few hundred and you'd have nothing but a mystery on your hands. If someone is spraying my house? I'd get down and, situation permitting, I'd try to outmaneuver them to return fire. In this kind of case, though, there is no wrong answer except allowing the assailant to have fire superiority. Whether I might die or not, if I'm being shot at, I'd prefer to be able to return fire.
A time delay isn't harder just a longer wait. Criminals will always do what they need to commit crime they don't give a fuck about their impact on society. Our responsibility is to weigh the frequency of the crimes committed with "assault" rifles versus they're availability and determine what the tipping point is. The gun lobby shouldnt have as much power as they do in this discussion.
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