What kind of notes do you keep?

xtraLRG420

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The only notes I keep are to track the seeds from crosses I make. Parents sex, F1, F2, etc... Everything else is dialed in so there is no need for taking notes. I just don't want to lose track of all the crosses and seeds I've made. I track yield by how many jars the dried product fills up. I guesstimate an ounce per quart jar or two zips for the bigger 64 oz jars. It might not be 100% accurate but it's close enough for me. I've just started growing out some of the crosses I've made that I haven't grown yet so I'll probably start tracking flowering times since that is an important factor for what I'm working on which is a fast finishing plant that can be grown outdoors and will be harvest ready before the weather gets bad here in the Pacific Northwest.
I've noticed that a lot of the dispensary weed I buy has T1, S1, but I haven't seen F1. Do you by chance have any information on what those stand for?
 

xtsho

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I've noticed that a lot of the dispensary weed I buy has T1, S1, but I haven't seen F1. Do you by chance have any information on what those stand for?
An S1 is a plant that has been selfed with reversed pollen. A branch has been reversed using STS, CS or another method and that pollen has been used to pollinate that plant producing fem seeds which are S1

An F1 is the first generation of a cross from two different strains. The strains should be stabilized as IBL's or be landraces but that isn't always the case which is why so many crosses these days have so many phenotypes.

I'm not familiar with any T1 and what I wrote may not be entirely accurate so take it with a grain of salt. You might want to read through this thread for more information from people more knowledgeable than myself.

 

xtraLRG420

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An S1 is a plant that has been selfed with reversed pollen. A branch has been reversed using STS, CS or another method and that pollen has been used to pollinate that plant producing fem seeds which are S1

An F1 is the first generation of a cross from two different strains. The strains should be stabilized as IBL's or be landraces but that isn't always the case which is why so many crosses these days have so many phenotypes.

I'm not familiar with any T1 and what I wrote may not be entirely accurate so take it with a grain of salt. You might want to read through this thread for more information from people more knowledgeable than myself.

Thank you so much! I'll be looking into that article. T1 might be the product of crossing two different strains for a male, two different strains for a female, and then breeding those for a third generation.
 

xtsho

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Thank you so much! I'll be looking into that article. T1 might be the product of crossing two different strains for a male, two different strains for a female, and then breeding those for a third generation.

The only thing I can find relating to T1 is hemp.

This explains things pretty well.

 

kgp

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My rooms pretty dialed in.

I do have an excel spreadsheet of the strains I run and new ones I test.

I have different categories of taste, smell, effect, structure, vigor, bag appeal, and yield. Each is ranked from 1 to 10 and totalled in the final tab.

SO each strain will get a X out of 70 points. If they rank under the favorites, they go in the trash, if they are higher, they are kept and maybe slide an old keeper in the trash. Its a great idea to keep notes, especially us stoners. SOmetimes are memory isn't as good as we think.
 

xtraLRG420

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The only thing I can find relating to T1 is hemp.

This explains things pretty well.

I found out that a T1 is actually the plants grown from the self pollinated seeds of a transgenic plant. T1 is also a strain of hemp. Now I can't find whether these plants produce feminized seeds. Is a self pollination considered a back cross?
 

sandman83

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Just basic grow notes, feed dates, when I refill reservoir and with what formula, flip dates etc. Each strain gets a few notes if I think it is worth it, nothing really fancy.
 

xtsho

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I found out that a T1 is actually the plants grown from the self pollinated seeds of a transgenic plant. T1 is also a strain of hemp. Now I can't find whether these plants produce feminized seeds. Is a self pollination considered a back cross?
Well if that's the case I wouldn't want anything to do with them. A transgenic plant has been genetically modified as in GMO.
 

xtraLRG420

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Well if that's the case I wouldn't want anything to do with them. A transgenic plant has been genetically modified as in GMO.
I see why you wouldn't want that but isn't breeding in general genetic modification? Or are you referring to there being some kind of cancery chemical being used to stop seed viability like Monsanto?
 

xtsho

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I see why you wouldn't want that but isn't breeding in general genetic modification? Or are you referring to there being some kind of cancery chemical being used to stop seed viability like Monsanto?
There is a difference between natural breeding and breeding done by changing the DNA in a lab. At least there is to me. The effects of altering plants this way can have unintended consequences. For instance, pollen from transgenic corn kills Monarch Butterflies. I'm concerned about the ecosystem of the planet. It was doing just fine until man thought he could improve on it. All we've done is harm it. But that's another topic and we've already hijacked this thread too much.
 

Chief_Broom

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I maintain a journal for each grow. It’s pretty basic (word doc) I just like to keep track of dates so I know where I am at veg an flowering. I also like to keep track of any changes I’ve incorporated into the grow so I can travk any successes or failures in my methods.
 

ISK

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I keep a detailed record on an excel sheet, starting with the date the seeds germinated, when transplanted, each feeding and which nutes were used, when switched to 12/12, which light source was used (HPS, CMH, CFL and/or sunshine), as well as the harvest date and yield per plant

I do this because I easily forget details, so it's nice to look back to confirm the last feeding and other details, and also to see what was accomplished on previous grows.

I also maintain a grow journal (shown in my signature as "My Past Grows") which summarizes the grows and provides links to all my previous grow journals since 2012.

Some may consider this as over-anal, but growing is my hobby so I don't mind spending the time/effort to detail the grows.

cheers
Indoor Sun King
 

icetech

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Blue masking tape and a sharpie, i mainly just put a label on the strain and day popped... i should record day going into flower also.. but meh..
 

xtsho

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Other than if you're making crosses or something where you have more data to track than just date sprouted, clones rooted, date put into flowering, etc... These will do for the majority of people. They have room to write down the strain, date's for germ, veg, flower on one side and room on the other side for additional notes if needed. One goes with every seed I plant and it follows the plant from germ to harvest. If you use pencil it can be erased and reused. I bought a pack of 500 on Amazon for around $15. That's only $0.03 a piece.

 
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