What to do next

23 day old plant under 1000 watts light and not sure what to do next,I heard I should top top them at the second true node but not sure whaView attachment 1364517t exactly where that is please can someone explain to me.there is the first 2 round leaves and then the 1 finger ,3fingers 5fingers and so on whView attachment 1364516ere do I start counting FIRST EVER GROW.
Do I need anything else in my grow room?? I think my set up is good??when do I switch from MH to HPS ??

Don't count the round leaves....follow directions in Uncle Ben's topping technique.

Oldreefer said:

Don't count the round leaves....follow directions in Uncle Ben's topping technique.

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Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to get 2 or 4 MAIN colas

Sweet setup, very clean.

You have your light at that distance in the pic?

Put it as close as possible as yours is cooled, 10 inches would work.

Read a thread of someone doing your style grow, I see the smart pots, Mr West and Don Gin and Tonic use those with coir. I am a hyro guy, but if you want good help post your soil mix and stuff, for soil peeps to analyze

thanks for the reply
10 inches wow I am running a 1000 watts bulb in the reflector and did lower it a bit so that it is about 83 degrees at the top of the pot is that good or go even closer what is the max degrees will they take??

tucker1 said:

thanks for the reply
10 inches wow I am running a 1000 watts bulb in the reflector and did lower it a bit so that it is about 83 degrees at the top of the pot is that good or go even closer what is the max degrees will they take??

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measure temp from the highest point in your canopy, 83* is sweet. Your grow is about to explode in the next 10 days...

keep posting bro

tucker1 said:

thanks for the reply
10 inches wow I am running a 1000 watts bulb in the reflector and did lower it a bit so that it is about 83 degrees at the top of the pot is that good or go even closer what is the max degrees will they take??

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If I recall correctly (not using C02), optimal temp is around 72* and anything over 80* or 85* or something actually inhibits the plant according to Cervantes book.

BiteSizeFreak said:

If I recall correctly (not using C02), optimal temp is around 72* and anything over 80* or 85* or something actually inhibits the plant according to Cervantes book.

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85* is getting to the high side, though many sativas peeps can run 90*+, but not at all bad if the air is moving well.

Love Jorge, but he is full of shit on many points of cultivation just in general, he is more a stoner then any sort of cultivation authority. Sorry to break it to you.

I appreciate your feedback but can you enlighten me about nodes what exactly is the 2nd true node? first leaves are round next is single fingers next is 3 fingers so is it above the 3 fingers that I would top for the 4 colas??
thanks again

choempi said:

85* is getting to the high side, though many sativas peeps can run 90*+, but not at all bad if the air is moving well.

Love Jorge, but he is full of shit on many points of cultivation just in general, he is more a stoner then any sort of cultivation authority. Sorry to break it to you.

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(Don't mean to hijack the thread)
Unfortunately the only book I have is his and then of course what I read online. I am a noob but I try to learn everything I can. I like having books to use as references so who would you suggest as a good cultivation author? I think the only other one I've noticed that gets as much attention/advertising as Cervante is Rosenthal. Thanks.

choempi said:

85* is getting to the high side, though many sativas peeps can run 90*+, but not at all bad if the air is moving well.

Love Jorge, but he is full of shit on many points of cultivation just in general, he is more a stoner then any sort of cultivation authority. Sorry to break it to you.

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he is a lot smarter then you ,,, ive seen most of your posts and most of them made me laugh

tucker1 said:

I appreciate your feedback but can you enlighten me about nodes what exactly is the 2nd true node? first leaves are round next is single fingers next is 3 fingers so is it above the 3 fingers that I would top for the 4 colas??
thanks again

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read uncle bens thread, that's why I posted the link...

Tigers Wood said:

he is a lot smarter then you ,,, ive seen most of your posts and most of them made me laugh

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at least I got that going for me...

i like you pots their ribbed for pleasure... i top mine after the first full leaf mmkay then i lollychop the single finger first leaf and its branch. then supacrop recover flower and lst
this is day 19? i think a few days ago flowering today

BiteSizeFreak said:

(Don't mean to hijack the thread)
Unfortunately the only book I have is his and then of course what I read online. I am a noob but I try to learn everything I can. I like having books to use as references so who would you suggest as a good cultivation author? I think the only other one I've noticed that gets as much attention/advertising as Cervante is Rosenthal. Thanks.

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Read the threads of good growers here in real time, better then any book.

Pick the kind of grow style according to your space, security, and pocket. Then find a peep or 2 here that are doing something you have confidence in being able to replicate.

RUI is better then any book you will ever find.

Oh, and be sure to run it by Tigers Wood...

putting updated photos, transplanted and the next day I did one topping like uncle Ben and did the LST on the others these pics are the morning after the transplantI wish I could tell the sex but I assume they are too young yet???

Way to add something constructive you jerks tigers wood. Don't listen to that guy choempi has only made me laugh due to his mastery of sarcasm, otherwise it seems to me he isn't full of shit. Jorge Cervantes is a mainstream corporate cannabis cup glorified moron. Most of the people around here on riu could grow circles around Jorge I bet he only has 20 harvests under his belt as with roselthal they are old school and do not know how to make use of the nuances of cultivating today. You could top your plants if you want but than they are going to need a heavy lolly poping because it seem's already that your canopy is going to be full. The first "round" leaves are your embryonic leaves they will fall off in time the skin will peel away to reveal possible root points you do not want to bury your stem deeper than this point or you could run into root rot. Anyway topping placement isn't very important you could do it on the 2nd node or the 6 it just depends on how you wan't to shape your plant.

Seem's like you have plenty of room in the grow room so just keep vegging till the plant's reach a height that will give you a good yeild about a ft to a ft and harf i found to produce a good yeild.If the plants are all growing ok and it looks like they are then add nothing else,other than up your nutes,but make sure that you flush so that no salt's get the chance to build up.When useing two light's like you are wanting to do like a mh for vegging and hps for flowering then i would flip them at the start of flowering,Make sure that you keep your light has close to the plant tops has possible without burning the tops.This will mean the differance between a big yeild and a far smaller one,when i first started growing i was well into topping my plants sometimes even multiple topping more than one section of the plant,but over the past few years and through been around alot of other growrooms i have noticed that not alot is gained from topping infact it can knock you back a week or so.I have done test my self on this two plant's grow under 2 1000 watt hps grown in near perfec conditions and the plant that was not topped produced a little more than the topped one.Sometimes i think topping can cause a plant to strech,but each to there own,I mean after all i take all the buds of the main stem once dried any how and cure it.Go with advanced nutes on yr next grow there are alot of haters of advanced on here and i was put of for a number of years due to this fact,but since flipping to advanced the yeild is well up to 25% bigger and the plants love it.Advanced is ideal for the newbie because it is a matter of adding the right ammount to water and the ph will go to the right one for the stage of growth and the ammount added,also there is no need for a ppm meter has the same happens with that has long has you know the ppms of yr water.good luck get the light lower its a tad high and start to give them good ammounts of nutes and you should have a bumper yeild,i would also pull them tighter togeather till they get bigger so they are getting more light good luck any questions post me tyke.............................................................

thanks so much guys for replying I need the help cause I dont know what I am doing I just go with what I read and the info I get here by reading the forum