Whats your opinion on immigration??

Total Head

Total Head

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i must be psychic because on the first page i mentioned that people use the term mexican and immigrant as if the terms are mutually exclusive, and as expected this whole thread is nothing but a diarrhea-fest of mexican this and mexican that.

guess what, border states? there are dozens of states whose immigration issues have NOTHING to do with mexicans. get the fuck over yourselves and and join the national discussion instead of just bitching about the stuff that affects YOU.

i have seen no mention in this thread (except by me) of immigration policies already in place, how they are enforced, or how our immigration policy differs from other countries. this whole thread is a hoax designed to whine about mexicans and the spanish language, which, for the umpteenth time, is not "immigration".
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Winter Woman said:
Nice try UB. I don't know where you came up with the idea I used a hate group. I guess you just can't believe that you might not be as correct as you think you are.

Those facts came from the University of Pennsylvania.
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you quoted FAIR, which is classified as a hate group along with the KKK and the new black panthers. they are white supremacists, and that's the info you are choosing to consume.

pretty sad statement about what kind of consumer of information you are.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Winter Woman said:
Are you here in the USA? If so, you should know there is no Federal Sales Tax. So no money from them there.


They don't file a Federal Tax Return so no money there, too. They don't file a State Tax Return so no money there.
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did you learn to bleat that nonsense from neo-nazi white supremacist hate groups as well?

so many illegals pay taxes under false SS numbers that it's a joke. why do you think e-verify is being bandied about so much? :dunce:

not only do they pay into a system where they have no chance of ever seeing anything back, but they also pay sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes, and many, many others.

every cost assessment analysis weighing the contributions of illegals versus their cost puts their net contribution in the positive.

you're just a brainwashed little tool of hate groups and a bad consumer of information.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Organic Okie said:
Uncle buck... Winter Woman gave corect statistics with web sites to back up what she said! I think you are just a troll and maybe even an Illegal yourself! UB your post 195 is complete bullshit! There are lots of americans that cant find work because of illegal's.. The illegalls work for cheap because we are paying their way! And by the way the consumers are'nt getting a good deal from the mexican's, their work is sub standard quality because they cut every corner possible! Truth is they are ripping off the people they are working for unless they are doing un skilled labor! Obviously you have no clue because you sit at home and live off your wife! Ive been in construction for over 25 years and I have been called to repair many mexican done jobs... People like you are the reason our country is in dept! I think you are nothing but a dip shit troll that has nothing better to do than suck Obama's dick! Its easy to talk shit online! Winter Woman gave you corect info w/ web sites, Smokebomb made many good points, and Cannabineer is politically corect and very inteligent! You need to wake up old man and quit trolling in threads that you have no clue what your saying..Seems to me like mostly young un-informed kids have posted in this thread and they still live at home under their parents roofs! Illegalls are hurting our economy, big time and the ones that dont see it are blind....
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winter woman posted information from hate groups run by white supremacists.

i posted actual cost assessment analyses showing that illegals contribute more than they take, i'll post them again just for you.

you special little sock puppet douche :lol:

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/assessing-economic-impact-immigration-state-and-local-level
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Organic Okie said:
I was born in america you dumbass! And Im not a hater just stating the facts! My best friend is an american born mexican.. Maybe you should go back to school and learn something while you still live at home with your mommy and daddy! Illegalls are a drain on this country and they need to go back where they came from! Why are you so offended by what I said? Are you an illegall immigrant? The only way I would jump off a cliff is if I could get you in a head lock and use you to break my fall... Grow a brain moron!
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its ok, everyone. he has a mexican friend.

so when he spews bullshit from white supremacist hate groups, we know he can't be bigoted. because he has a mexican friend.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Organic Okie said:
Where is the benifit? Do you mean for the wealthy that hire them? There is no benifit to our economy by them using the welfare system to live here while sending their pay to mexico every week! Our ancesstors were all immigrants, but my ancesstors did'nt climb a fence to get here and they were'nt bring drugs into this country when they came! I see no benifits from them being here...
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i know illegal immigrants who have better command of the english language than you do. :lol:
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Organic Okie said:
Wrong dip shit my great,great grandpa married an indian woman ( Choctaw ) and I have never collected any welfare in my life dumbass! I built my on company from scratch after a divorce, and illegalls have taken my work from me! So yhea Im not cool with the whole illegall B.S.! I own a big peice of land and a nice home that I built myself, and I worked my ass off to get it! I think you are the scum and pretty stupid to boot! I bet you would'nt talk any shit to my face! I bet your some kid that isnt even old enough to be on this site!
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jesus christ dude, you don't get to call someone dumb and litter your post with spelling errors that an 8 year old anchor baby would avoid.

i can only imagine that your "business" had something to do with mopping up semen.
 
Scrotie Mcboogerballs

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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MellowFarmer said:
If the other choice is not working making your family even more shit out of luck is that truly a choice?
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Truly, yes. One of the hardest choices that my fiancé an I had ever had to make was an abortion. Unfortunately a condom was not preventative enough at one point and she got pregnant. Being raised in the type of environment i was made me decide that i was not going to bring a child into this world under the exact same circumstances. Some people especially due to religion decide to not make this choice but end up making a child their excuse for sympathy. I do not feel that that is right. At some point we all have hard choices to make and if we fail to act, I don not believe that it should become everybody else's responsibility to provide for you. Now once again, I do support immigration but not for the reason that I feel sorry for people. I just don't believe imaginary lines are a great solution.
 
MellowFarmer

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Winter Woman said:
Are you here in the USA? If so, you should know there is no Federal Sales Tax. So no money from them there.


They don't file a Federal Tax Return so no money there, too. They don't file a State Tax Return so no money there.

And about Bill Gates, he helped create a whole new industry and thus created job. Now my personal opinion of Gates I keep to myself, but it isn't very nice.

It won't be long and the ag business will be very automated.
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They happen to pay the exact sales tax you do.

Illegals don't make enough to pay Fed or State tax are you fucking kidding me? Are you? They work for less than minimum wage hell listen to me less than FEDERAL Min Wage and that's dirt fucking poor and dirt fucking poor white folks who's ancestor's came on the freakin Mayflower don't pay taxes on min wage they file their taxes as soon as they can hoping to get their measly full refund back before the heat goes again. Leave your Winter Palace and walk amongst the peasants you might just learn something. Seriously?

And the Ag Biz or Big Ag would of been automated decades ago if it were truly more cost effective. No true family farm would.


 
MellowFarmer

MellowFarmer

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Scrotie Mcboogerballs said:
Truly, yes. One of the hardest choices that my fiancé an I had ever had to make was an abortion. Unfortunately a condom was not preventative enough at one point and she got pregnant. Being raised in the type of environment i was made me decide that i was not going to bring a child into this world under the exact same circumstances. Some people especially due to religion decide to not make this choice but end up making a child their excuse for sympathy. I do not feel that that is right. At some point we all have hard choices to make and if we fail to act, I don not believe that it should become everybody else's responsibility to provide for you. Now once again, I do support immigration but not for the reason that I feel sorry for people. I just don't believe imaginary lines are a great solution.
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I'm a recovering catholic, I get ya, even had one of them procedures myself except it wasn't a hard choice to be honest but I don't want to get into an abortion pissing match considering we are more on the same side than not. That being said, you have to delve through layers of conspiracy or prove the pope runs the world and not the black one in order to make that argument. Our systematic bombing of "illegal crops" aka the folks trying to overthrow the dictators we chose with harmful pesticides combined with well I guess us keeping evil fucks in power, thanks to Bush Sr god I love that teddy bear, is why they leave everything and everyone to come hear and work as virtual slaves. I'm sorry I Love blaming the church but it's an insignificant factor in the scheme of things.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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MellowFarmer said:
If the other choice is not working making your family even more shit out of luck is that truly a choice?
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It was their choice to be put into this situation. My dad didn't tell them to come to america nor did he make them work for him. He simply gave them a choice.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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Cut.Throat. said:
I'm calling shenanigans on Kaendar. Anyone 2nd my shenanigans? If 2nd he will be forever know as the liar he truly is.

double posting cuz this board messes up last posts on every page
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Your an asshole. If you go back and read thru the thread I explain how Mexican families call the spouses mother "suegra" whether legally married or not. Im technically engaged, not married but I still call the lady my mother in law.
 
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