White nationalists sick of being called racist.

desert dude

desert dude

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abandonconflict said:
I didn't insult you. I called you a white nationalist. If you weren't such mouthbreathing fucktard you'd get that. There, now I insulted you.
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You need to hire an HIV infested whore in Pattaya and spend the last couple of dollars of this month's crazy check and chill out.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
why do you support discrimination ?
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Oh London, I feel so bad for you that you are unable to distinguish between supporting a persons right to control their own body / property while not necessarily supporting the actions they take with that freedom.


Here's an example.

You own your self. You own your laundromat. You can wear the abandoned ladies underwear left behind at your laundromat, because now they belong to you. I wouldn't stop you from doing that. I support your right to do that.

I, on the other hand do not wear ladies underwear and even think your wearing it is a little odd. I'd go so far as saying you'd never see me do that. Besides my massive pectorals do not need support.

I hope that clears things up for you, have a great day. Good luck with solving your cognitive difficulties too.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
No, people don't own themselves, they are themselves. Nobody owns people because people are not property. Human rights don't come from being property, they come from being human. Property rights come from the government.
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When I say people "own" themself, it is meant as an endorsement for peaceful self determination. So, regardless of what we call it, you are opposed to it, as you support some people making others determinations for them using force.

I do not.


I think languages sometimes do not have enough words to properly express some concepts. I agree with you that nobody but the individual can "own" themselves and that humans are not property in the same sense as an object which is property.

Property rights do not come from government. If you make something from unowned natural resources, it becomes yours.
Government isn't needed in that scenario. Your assertion has been refuted.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
I have more freedom and autonomy than you can even imagine in your bigoted little white nationalist brain.
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No, you are dependent on the continued theft of funds being sent to you so that you can continue to be a nonproducer.

Your "freedom" relies on the reduction of freedom of others.

Now before you whine about me busting your balls for taking a government check, busting your balls is not the purpose for my bringing it up.

Your assertion has now been refuted.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
When I say people "own" themself, it is meant as an endorsement for peaceful self determination. So, regardless of what we call it, you are opposed to it, as you support some people making others determinations for them using force.

I do not.
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I don't support that. I am opposed to privatization altogether. You're the one who advocates privatization which is only possible through gov't authority.

Rob Roy said:
I think languages sometimes do not have enough words to properly express some concepts. I agree with you that nobody but the individual can "own" themselves and that humans are not property in the same sense as an object which is property.
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That's not what I said, so no, we don't agree, not even close. People are not property at all. Human rights don't come from being property. They come from being human. Property rights come from government.

Rob Roy said:
Property rights do not come from government. If you make something from unowned natural resources, it becomes yours.
Government isn't needed in that scenario. Your assertion has been refuted.
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Property rights do indeed come from government. You don't make something from unowned natural resources. Stop making up hypothetical bullshit, this is an argument about reality.

Funny how you create an unrealistic scenario and then say it refutes my arguments. Too easy.

Dumb ancap.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
No, you are dependent on the continued theft of funds being sent to you so that you can continue to be a nonproducer.

Your "freedom" relies on the reduction of freedom of others.

Now before you whine about me busting your balls for taking a government check, busting your balls is not the purpose for my bringing it up.

Your assertion has now been refuted.
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Actually, my Veteran's disability check gives me more freedom and autonomy than your bigoted little white nationalist brain is capable of even imagining.

Inb4 pedophilia is described as consensual.
 
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NoDrama

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abandonconflict said:
Nobody owns people because people are not property.
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Then who has the rights and duties to your body and mind? Who owns the economic benefits of your labor? Since you state that you cannot own yourself, then who or what determines what you will eat, do or think throughout your life?
Since you do not own yourself, then you also cannot own intellectual property or original ideas.

You have stated unequivocally that you cannot take unowned resources and put them to your own personal gain. You don't have any rights to unowned resources, so stop breathing the air that you don't own, but which you use for your own personal gain.

You have stated the belief that property rights come from Government. Which particular government agency is in charge of your rights anyway? And wouldn't it be better to use the term "ownership Privileges" instead of "rights" seeing as rights cannot come from any construct of man?
 
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