White Widow, Stealth, HPS

closet.cult said:

I recommend, with any strain, to veg for at least 8 weeks. Otherwise, the plant is not mature enough to produce THC up to the potency it is genetically rated for. With LST grows, stick with age to decided when to flower. Height won't work.

Good Luck.

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what are ur resources for this if u dont mind me asking

Hey CC first and formost congrats on an awsome job!! Not to sure if you posted or not about how that 26watt reptile lamp worked out for ya?? was speed reading the thread and lost my concentration with the pics of those big beautiful buds!!!!!!

I am a first time grower. I got some white widow seeds from a friend. I am currently growing 20 healthy plants. Can anyone tell me from experience what kind of total yield am I to expect from 20 healthy plants? Thank you in advance

Spittn4cash said:

what are ur resources for this if u dont mind me asking

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i've read this in a couple of references but i cant remeber where. i think one spot is in my ed rosenthal book, 'closet cultivators.'

as a WW grower, i can tell you one thing for sure. i vegged for exactly 8 weeks, the minimum, i read about. then i dried and cured for 3 weeks. the buzz was good from the cured plant and got better but the high was a creeper and always felt a little subdued, immature.

i grow organically with quality supplies so the only variable i can change on my next grow is to let them veg longer then 8 weeks to get the real power punch of the WW.

growers who have a mother plant and take clones never have to worry about this. the mother is months or years old and the clones are the same age as her.

but if you're growing from seed: experience tells me to let the plant age longer. in the wild, they have all spring and summer to age.

kerpushi said:

I am a first time grower. I got some white widow seeds from a friend. I am currently growing 20 healthy plants. Can anyone tell me from experience what kind of total yield am I to expect from 20 healthy plants? Thank you in advance

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depends on the size entirely. there is a pic in here with each plants buds cut showing its total dried weight. that will help anyone with estimating their plant's weight.

daydrops said:

i've read this in a couple of references but i cant remeber where. i think one spot is in my ed rosenthal book, 'closet cultivators.'

as a WW grower, i can tell you one thing for sure. i vegged for exactly 8 weeks, the minimum, i read about. then i dried and cured for 3 weeks. the buzz was good from the cured plant and got better but the high was a creeper and always felt a little subdued, immature.

i grow organically with quality supplies so the only variable i can change on my next grow is to let them veg longer then 8 weeks to get the real power punch of the WW.

growers who have a mother plant and take clones never have to worry about this. the mother is months or years old and the clones are the same age as her.

but if you're growing from seed: experience tells me to let the plant age longer. in the wild, they have all spring and summer to age.

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U read somewhere that 8 week was the minimum time for veg?

dont be givin out false information yall, provide some solid links and resources.

Ive never heard to let the plant mature for any set time. I literally just finished a grow 12/12 from seed and got over 4oz's of bud off a single plant with no veg "lighting period".

I dont even see how this would effect the potency especially when the THC glands dont even develop until well into flowering. and if its true that the THC glands are affected by the UVB rays, then it matters little how long U veg to get optimum thc potency.

daydrops said:

depends on the size entirely. there is a pic in here with each plants buds cut showing its total dried weight. that will help anyone with estimating their plant's weight.

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Can you help me locate that pic please?

i always thought that you could veg them for as long or as short as you want to before inducing flowering. now a minimum of eight weeks flowering i could definately understand...

in either case, excellent fucking job with the space provided mayne

Spittn4cash said:

U read somewhere that 8 week was the minimum time for veg?

dont be givin out false information yall, provide some solid links and resources.

Ive never heard to let the plant mature for any set time. I literally just finished a grow 12/12 from seed and got over 4oz's of bud off a single plant with no veg "lighting period".

I dont even see how this would effect the potency especially when the THC glands dont even develop until well into flowering. and if its true that the THC glands are affected by the UVB rays, then it matters little how long U veg to get optimum thc potency.

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First: it is presumptuous to assume it is false information just because you have never heard of it. or do you really know everything there is to know?

Second: when I speak of first hand experience, it is not false information, only subjective, like any other poster.

Third: here is a link to ONE source confirming my advice and a paragraph excerpt of interest:

2) Photoperiod - The Key to Maturation

The chronological age of the plant has little to do with its maturity.
How quickly a plant matures is mostly dependent on the amount of light the
plant receives each day (photoperiod). Typically, a plant will transition
from the growing (vegitative) stage to the budding stage when the light
per day drops below 12 hours. This is not to say that a 3-week-old
seedling will begin to bloom when the light is cut. As a general rule, a plant must be a minimum of 60 days old before it is mature enough to respond appropriately to decreased light. For indoor growers, the decision on
when to cut the photoperiod depends on available growing space, as well as
the need to harvest weed. Some growers report that clones (cuttings) can
be forced to bloom prior to 60 days old, perhaps since the cutting itself is somewhat mature at the time it is rooted.

Erowid Psychoactive Vaults

all that quote is saying is that generally a plant younger than sixty days will not start flowering at the switch to a 12/12 photoperiod like a mature plant would... i still dont see where it says this has any effect on the potency of the plant. what i do know is that the thc content of indoor plants can augmented with the use of additional UVB lighting...they produce the thc to protect potentially developing seeds from harmful radiation

JordanTheGreat said:

all that quote is saying is that generally a plant younger than sixty days will not start flowering at the switch to a 12/12 photoperiod like a mature plant would... i still dont see where it says this has any effect on the potency of the plant. what i do know is that the thc content of indoor plants can augmented with the use of additional UVB lighting...they produce the thc to protect potentially developing seeds from harmful radiation

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yes, i know all about THC and UVB lighting. but i'm talking about plant maturity. A 1 week old seedling, if flowered, can NOT produce as potent THC as it's brother seedling that you let veg for 3 months (as nature intended). Not because of size, but because it is an immature plant.

a toddler or child, as compared to a sexually mature adult. get it? I will start this discussion in another thread and see if we get any good growers to weigh in on it.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/81349-long-veg-mature-thc.html

im there bruh, i wanna know about this...i have flowered sum seedlings pretty early and gotten sum kill off em. but definately worth knowing for sure, good shit for being proactive mayne!

daydrops said:

yes, i know all about THC and UVB lighting. but i'm talking about plant maturity. A 1 week old seedling, if flowered, can NOT produce as potent THC as it's brother seedling that you let veg for 3 months (as nature intended). Not because of size, but because it is an immature plant.

a toddler or child, as compared to a sexually mature adult. get it? I will start this discussion in another thread and see if we get any good growers to weigh in on it.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/81349-long-veg-mature-thc.html

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first off, I wasnt tryina offend anybody by saying "dont be givin out false info", as I said, "provide some solid links to some solid info."

still U tried, but failed at proving ur point.

Second, THERE AINT NO FUC*ING GENERAL RULES OF GROWING.

excuse me for cussing, but allow me to explain...

see everyone has their own way of growing, its that simple. its all about learning as U go. soon U will learn what works and what doesnt work and step outside of all the bullsh*t everyone else has been feeding U and learn to do things your way. U'll learn how to read ur plants and know when U can do whatever the f*ck U want to them. depending on YOUR OWN situation U can literally do what they hell U want lighting wise as long as U follow the PLANTS RULES which U will learn as U go along (or if U were smart and bought from a seed bank U will know before hand what type of schedule to follow.)





HEY If someone need a quick harvest in 2-4 months, Id recommend a 12/12 from seed grow using a HID. Use a good soil mix consisting of fox farms ocean forest, miracle grow (regular) potting mix, and Scotts perlite 4:1:1 mix. Only feed primary nutes once per week, and secondary Micronutes once every other week. Water every 3 days with store bought gallon water, and keep temps under 85*F.

^^THOSE ARENT THE GENEREAL RULES thats just what I would do.... ^^

see my point?

^^Ive grown a lot of bud from worse conditions than that. ^^ basically if U put me in the desert I'd grow weed outta camels ass. and it would probably be more potent anyways.

but it has nothing to do withhow long the plants were vegged, that only affects the yield. potency is determined by genetics and TLC. not the lighting schedule.


soon U'll learn who's "books" and "rules" and "dvd's" U should keep, and who's U should throw out.

I can tell U right now that line about "60 days till they'll respond to the change in light" is bullshit bcuz Ive had plants (from lots of 'mixed' strains) show me sex before 12/12. there was a time when I gradually changed my lighting schedule from 24/0 to 12/12..I made it to 14/10 and the plants started showing sex. that was only 21 days from seed.

and in my last grow 12/12 from seed the plants started showing sex around day 23-28.

and that was only my indoor grow.

outside I have clones planted that are showing sex as well, and I planted them in the beginning of june. even in june in my state the plants will flower early bcuz of my location to the equator and the location of my grow


I wish U would read a more accurate and updated grow book. Ive been reading "the cannabis grow bible" and even tho its nearly impossible to make something "a general rule" in growing his methods are better than any grow dvd Ive watched and so far every book Ive read. its worth the $22

Im sorry but now this dummy just blew my high. damn it.

daydrops said:

Third: here is a link to ONE source confirming my advice and a paragraph excerpt of interest:

2) Photoperiod - The Key to Maturation

The chronological age of the plant has little to do with its maturity.

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how do U feel about this line that U quoted? kinda like a contradiction to what ur arguing right? duh?

How quickly a plant matures is mostly dependent on the amount of light the
plant receives each day (photoperiod). Typically, a plant will transition
from the growing (vegitative) stage to the budding stage when the light
per day drops below 12 hours.

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DO I really need to tell U how full of shit that line is? how quickly a plant matures is mostly dependant on genetics, then all else after. lets read the rest of this.....

This is not to say that a 3-week-old
seedling will begin to bloom when the light is cut. As a general rule, a plant must be a minimum of 60 days old before it is mature enough to respond appropriately to decreased light.

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depending on the strain, 3 weeks from seed my plants would already be showing sex.

For indoor growers, the decision on
when to cut the photoperiod depends on available growing space, as well as
the need to harvest weed. Some growers report that clones (cuttings) can
be forced to bloom prior to 60 days old, perhaps since the cutting itself is somewhat mature at the time it is rooted.

Erowid Psychoactive Vaults

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not only have I dont that, but Ive also rooted clones under 12/12, and watched them go right into flowering.

Ur resources are terrible...

daydrops said:

yes, i know all about THC and UVB lighting. but i'm talking about plant maturity. A 1 week old seedling, if flowered, can NOT produce as potent THC as it's brother seedling that you let veg for 3 months (as nature intended). Not because of size, but because it is an immature plant.

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are U that fucking new to growing? a 1 week old seedling cannot produce as potent THC as its brother?

thats too easy, im not even gonna go there....but if they are all they same strain, then yes it can.

sorry closet.cult for hijacking ur thread but I had to open up a e-"Can of STFU" on this clown.

SMH

Spittn4cash said:

Im sorry but now this dummy just blew my high. damn it.

how do U feel about this line that U quoted? kinda like a contradiction to what ur arguing right? duh?
DO I really need to tell U how full of shit that line is? how quickly a plant matures is mostly dependant on genetics, then all else after. lets read the rest of this.....


depending on the strain, 3 weeks from seed my plants would already be showing sex.
not only have I dont that, but Ive also rooted clones under 12/12, and watched them go right into flowering.

Ur resources are terrible...


are U that fucking new to growing? a 1 week old seedling cannot produce as potent THC as its brother?

thats too easy, im not even gonna go there....but if they are all they same strain, then yes it can.

sorry closet.cult for hijacking ur thread but I had to open up a e-"Can of STFU" on this clown.

SMH

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you need to smoke a bowl and chill, dude. you really are an asshole if you ask for resources, i provide them, and then you fault ME for quoting OTHER people's bad information.

if there's alot of bullshit on the web and i just found some, glad you spotted it. but i certainly hope everyone doesn't 'instruct' with your attitude.

amazing f*cking thread. BEST IVE SEEN.!