Will America fall eventually?

budlover13 · Mar 13, 2013

OddBall1st said:
Most 30 round clips go in the weapons,..it`s the selector switch that matters and who knows who got what !i

Magazines.....

cannabineer · Mar 13, 2013

budlover13 said:
Magazines.....

I remember once my dad caught me with a dirty magazine. Boy did I get a talking-to. Don't let this happen to you! cn

budlover13 · Mar 13, 2013

OddBall1st said:
More dangerous, do to the ability to not hold it on target for alot of people, it`s gonna be effective in killing, but who ?

Again, the dangerous element is the person holding the gun. If dude's insane and shooting innocents, what difference does it make? MAYBE the likelihood of getting hit by one round instead of three but in all reality, someone thoughtfully employing a weapon would not choose full-auto for anything other than cover fire. Waste of ammo, more malfunctions, less accurate, etc.

budlover13 · Mar 13, 2013

cannabineer said:
I remember once my dad caught me with a dirty magazine. Boy did I get a talking-to. Don't let this happen to you! cn

I FOUND my dad's. Dorothy, the tin man, the lion, and the scarecrow in a version of Hustler lol. First time I tripped out on the Wiz

OddBall1st · Mar 13, 2013

budlover13 said:
Again, the dangerous element is the person holding the gun. If dude's insane and shooting innocents, what difference does it make? MAYBE the likelihood of getting hit by one round instead of three but in all reality, someone thoughtfully employing a weapon would not choose full-auto for anything other than cover fire. Waste of ammo, more malfunctions, less accurate, etc.

Good point,..but manageing closely the thirty round clips makes it that much harder for the illegal full auto owners to get them. It makes sense but does take away from the target shooter and their practice/fun, they have a good argument but can`t see the neglect or don`t care about it !i

ANC · Mar 13, 2013

If we don't need guns because we have police, then I guess we don't need fire extinguishers because we have firemen, and we don't need first aid kits because we have ambulances.

OddBall1st · Mar 13, 2013

budlover13 said:
I FOUND my dad's. Dorothy, the tin man, the lion, and the scarecrow in a version of Hustler lol. First time I tripped out on the Wiz

A scary squeeky frightened lay !!

cannabineer · Mar 13, 2013

budlover13 said:
I FOUND my dad's. Dorothy, the tin man, the lion, and the scarecrow in a version of Hustler lol. First time I tripped out on the Wiz

And her little dog, too?? :shock:

cn

aknight3 · Mar 13, 2013

ANC said:
If we don't need guns because we have police, then I guess we don't need fire extinguishers because we have firemen, and we don't need first aid kits because we have ambulances.

in every single tyranny, dictatorship and mass genocide, it ALWAYS begins with the GOVT or political force in power outlawing and usually collecting or 'rounding-up' guns...do not let them fool you, ITS NOT ABOUT SAFETY, YOU ARE NOT SAFER by giving all of your protection(guns) against the government and criminals to the goverment and letting the criminals keep them, because you know they will, thats why they're criminals!!!!

PROTECT THE 2ND AMENDMENT
its the only thing keeping us free (as we currently see it)

donttreadonme.

budlover13 · Mar 13, 2013

OddBall1st said:
Good point,..but manageing closely the thirty round clips makes it that much harder for the illegal full auto owners to get them. It makes sense but does take away from the target shooter and their practice/fun, they have a good argument but can`t see the neglect or don`t care about it !i

Thirty rounds, full-auto, is almost a joke given the 100, 120, and 150 round magazines I've seen available online. Thirty rounds, SEMI-AUTO would be a HUGE comfort for me when bed hunting hogs. Could have 7-10 pissed off hogs charging me and 3 rounds a pig, in that situation, would be MORE than respectable imo. But i'd RATHER have more, without a mag change. THEN, one has to consider weight. Weight and possible need considered, I think the 30 round mags are where it's at. IF one chooses a 30 rounder, load no more than 27 or you'll likely suffer "dead-spring" quickly. For some reason, the 20 rounders do not suffer this issue.

ANC · Mar 13, 2013

aknight3 said:
in every single tyranny, dictatorship and mass genocide, it ALWAYS begins with the GOVT or political force in power outlawing and usually collecting or 'rounding-up' guns...do not let them fool you, ITS NOT ABOUT SAFETY, YOU ARE NOT SAFER by giving all of your protection(guns) against the government and criminals to the goverment and letting the criminals keep them, because you know they will, thats why they're criminals!!!!

PROTECT THE 2ND AMENDMENT
its the only thing keeping us free (as we currently see it)

donttreadonme.

Oh, you don't have to tell me about it, they did it here in south africa.
Currently there is a low level genocide occuring here with the disarmed being the main targets.
I think this must be the only place in the world where farming is a more dangerous occupation than being in the police.

wheels619 · Mar 13, 2013

OddBall1st said:
cn,

Look up the old Thomson footage to see what I mean,...I don`t care how strong someone is, you aint hold`n that gun on target !!

what this? ive actually fired one on full auto. pretty impressive firepower for its time. pretty accurate on full auto also. less recoil with it being a .45acp sub sonic bullet and it being auto. not that hard to hold accurately. [video=youtube_share;5g5ct7cXKu4]http://youtu.be/5g5ct7cXKu4[/video]

wheels619 · Mar 13, 2013

OddBall1st said:
I agree but that switch can be altered by many,..not I but many, they had the same problem with the first model M16 as the tommy !i

no its not that simple. the full auto version will not work with a regular semi auto bolt. the full auto version has a much larger bolt thats made to stand up to the constant movement and slamming. the semi auto one with break. had a buddy convert one of his shitty left over ars he built. made it full auto and the bolt snapped and jammed second mag into it. totally fucked the whole upper assembly. cost him about 700 bucks cuz he wasnt expecting it to damage anything. point being you cant simply convert a semi auto ar into a full auto without the proper parts and expect it to function properly and not break. anyone thats ever been in the military and has handled civilian ars will tell you the bolt is a little under half the size of the full auto.

wheels619 · Mar 13, 2013

budlover13 said:
Again, the dangerous element is the person holding the gun. If dude's insane and shooting innocents, what difference does it make? MAYBE the likelihood of getting hit by one round instead of three but in all reality, someone thoughtfully employing a weapon would not choose full-auto for anything other than cover fire. Waste of ammo, more malfunctions, less accurate, etc.

or clearing rooms and buildings. full auto is great when you cant shoulder a longer weapon when peaking around corners and kicking in doorways.

wheels619 · Mar 13, 2013

budlover13 said:
I FOUND my dad's. Dorothy, the tin man, the lion, and the scarecrow in a version of Hustler lol. First time I tripped out on the Wiz

i saw that same hustler mag back in the day. lmfao. ahh memories. lol.

wheels619 · Mar 13, 2013

OddBall1st said:
Good point,..but manageing closely the thirty round clips makes it that much harder for the illegal full auto owners to get them. It makes sense but does take away from the target shooter and their practice/fun, they have a good argument but can`t see the neglect or don`t care about it !i

did you know you can order 30 round Mags online and they will sip them to just about anyone unless they are a bright company like cabellas or another good sporting goods chain that knows they shit. so how does that keep the illigal full auto owners at bay. they got the gun illigally what makes you think they cant get mags? again i say mags becuz its a magazine not a clip. this is a clip.

wheels619 · Mar 13, 2013

budlover13 said:
Thirty rounds, full-auto, is almost a joke given the 100, 120, and 150 round magazines I've seen available online. Thirty rounds, SEMI-AUTO would be a HUGE comfort for me when bed hunting hogs. Could have 7-10 pissed off hogs charging me and 3 rounds a pig, in that situation, would be MORE than respectable imo. But i'd RATHER have more, without a mag change. THEN, one has to consider weight. Weight and possible need considered, I think the 30 round mags are where it's at. IF one chooses a 30 rounder, load no more than 27 or you'll likely suffer "dead-spring" quickly. For some reason, the 20 rounders do not suffer this issue.

loaded 25 into mine. the 20 rounders have less tension on the spring when compressed makes them last longer. nothing like going into battle and having your gun malfunction cuz of shitty gov mags. lmao.

budlover13 · Mar 13, 2013

wheels619 said:
loaded 25 into mine. the 20 rounders have less tension on the spring when compressed makes them last longer. nothing like going into battle and having your gun malfunction cuz of shitty gov mags. lmao.

Thank you for the explanation on that. Even 20 would be better than the 10 I can currently carry.

wheels619 · Mar 13, 2013

yeah the 20 rounders dont jam and bind up becuz of the less tension on the spring. 30 rounders are complete garbage. although they all fuck up when you get sand in em or get em fouled up enough.

H R Puff N Stuff · Mar 13, 2013

hopefully it will be on our terms and to join a larger collective like the united nations type deal

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