You totally can! It's just that some reasons have major consistency issues and inconsistency is the first odor to emanate from bs. I'm NPP as well, just because I prefer to focus on merit, not club. Nobody argues with Harold when he says it's his right, but then the links from a known anti-vaxxer site gets argument because it fails the merit test. Your safety arguments seem bogus, so I'll argue that. You just say you're worried about it and it's your right to take it when you're comfortable and what can I say? Nothing really to say. My wife is in the same boat. She's been fighting a blood clot for twenty years and is worried about it. Tough to argue.
Will You Take The Vaccine?
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CunningCanuk
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I haven’t checked my BP bit that’s a good idea. I’m starting to feel a little better but still have a fever. Pretty much slept on the couch all day.
hanimmal
Well-Known Member
He hit a wall with his bullshit and went to what was just trolling man, it is pretty insulting you acting like he wasn't. Trolls are going to troll, but crying about it without actually showing that they are not just another paid troll just makes you look suspect again.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/please-ban-me-says-the-propagandist-puppet.997760/
You making this about political sides is even more bullshit.
CunningCanuk
Well-Known Member
I’m starting to think I might have received the Vista chip, FFS.
TacoMac
Well-Known Member
How about argue your point with facts, not conspiracy theory bullshit.
Right now, people like Google, Facebook, Twitter and others are all under fire for allowing completely bogus bullshit to propagate on their platforms. Congress is actively considering removing site owners' and web hosts' immunity from what is posted on their sites.
That means when you spread completely unfounded conspiracy theories, if the site owner allows it, they can be sued for it. It's coming pal, rest assured. That's why sites like Parler got nuked off of every store there is and they're pretty much gutted.
As far as having a disagreement goes, I've argued with @rollitup on several occasions as well as quite a few others on this site.
I have never been banned for it.
So sell your self pity bullshit someplace else. If you're not intelligent enough to make your own arguments based on LEGITIMATE science, you and your conspiracy theory, bullshit friends deserve whatever happens to you.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
If you find yourself crashing and rebooting you'll know!
CunningCanuk
Well-Known Member
Grow a set of balls, put on your big boy panties and get the shot.
Then you can make a contribution to society, for the first time in your life.
StonedGardener
Well-Known Member
Can't argue with an intellectual like you, you're absolutely correct. Apolologies. I can be a real ass-hat. I'm learning, keep opinions to myself from now on. Sorry for rufffuling your feathers. I'll behave. Thanks for making me " see the light
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Stand by for an update, do not switch yourself off!
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Tweaked COVID vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna targeting variants | king5.com
COVID vaccine test subjects getting 3rd shot in fight against variants
Already an easier-to-spread version of the coronavirus found months ago has become the most common variant now circulating in the United States.
Dozens of Americans are rolling up their sleeves for a third dose of COVID-19 vaccine -- this time, shots tweaked to guard against a worrisome mutated version of the virus.
Make no mistake: The vaccines currently being rolled out across the U.S. offer strong protection. But new studies of experimental updates to the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines mark a critical first step toward an alternative if the virus eventually outsmarts today’s shots.
“We need to be ahead of the virus,” said Dr. Nadine Rouphael of Emory University, who is helping to lead a study of Moderna's tweaked candidate. “We know what it's like when we're behind.”
It's not clear if or when protection would wane enough to require an update but, "realistically we want to turn COVID into a sniffle,” she added.
Viruses constantly evolve, and the world is in a race to vaccinate millions and tamp down the coronavirus before even more mutants emerge. More than 119 million Americans have had at least one vaccine dose, and 22% of the population is fully vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Much of the rest of the world is far behind that pace.
Already an easier-to-spread version found in Britain just months ago has become the most common variant now circulating in the United States, one that’s fortunately vaccine-preventable.
But globally, there's concern that first-generation vaccines may offer less protection against a different variant that first emerged in South Africa. All the major vaccine makers are tweaking their recipes in case an update against that so-called B.1.351 virus is needed. Now experimental doses from Moderna and Pfizer are being put to the test.
In suburban Atlanta, Emory asked people who received Moderna's original vaccine a year ago in a first-stage study to also help test the updated shot. Volunteer Cole Smith said returning wasn’t a tough decision.
“The earlier one, it was a great success and, you know, millions of people are getting vaccinated now,” Smith told The Associated Press. “If we’re helping people with the old one, why not volunteer and help people with the new one?”
The study, funded by the National Institutes of Health, isn’t just testing Moderna’s experimental variant vaccine as a third-shot immune booster. Researchers at Emory and three other medical centers also are enrolling volunteers who haven’t yet received any kind of COVID-19 vaccination.
They want to know: Could people be vaccinated just with two doses of the variant vaccine and not the original? Or one dose of each kind? Or even get the original and the variant dose combined into the same injection?
potroastV2
Well-Known Member
I've already shut you down, you just don't know when to stop. You and Hal are the whipping boys of the week!
I've established that you are unable to match wits with me, and our "toe to toe" IQ comparison was ignored by you. I know that you are proud of your community college diploma, but the rest of us call your school "high school with ashtrays" and disregard it as an achievement. Since I'm probably twice your age, you will never be better than me, so suck it up kid.
You should stop now, while you're behind.
V256.420
Well-Known Member
woahI've already shut you down, you just don't know when to stop. You and Hal are the whipping boys of the week!
I've established that you are unable to match wits with me, and our "toe to toe" IQ comparison was ignored by you. I know that you are proud of your community college diploma, but the rest of us call your school "high school with ashtrays" and disregard it as an achievement. Since I'm probably twice your age, you will never be better than me, so suck it up kid.
You should stop now, while you're behind.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Covid-19: About a Third of U.S. Adults Have Received at Least One Dose of a Vaccine - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Covid-19: About a Third of U.S. Adults Have Received at Least One Dose of a Vaccine
A third of U.S. adults have received first doses, but New York and Arkansas lag in giving all adults vaccine access.
Covid-19: About a Third of U.S. Adults Have Received at Least One Dose of a Vaccine
A third of U.S. adults have received first doses, but New York and Arkansas lag in giving all adults vaccine access.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Here is what a Trump can do for your country, Brazil's version. Looks like a hundred or two million of our spare vaccine doses are gonna end up in Brazil, Canada ordered 800 million doses early of the top candidates for a population of 38 million, so we should have some to spare, one day.
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‘The entire system is on the verge of collapse’: Covid-19 overwhelms Brazil.
The patients began arriving at hospitals in Porto Alegre far sicker and younger than before. Funeral homes were experiencing a steady uptick in business, while exhausted doctors and nurses pleaded in February for a lockdown to save lives.
But Sebastião Melo, Porto Alegre’s mayor, argued there was a greater imperative.
“Put your life on the line so that we can save the economy,” Mr. Melo appealed to his constituents in late February.
Now Porto Alegre, a prosperous city in southern Brazil, is at the heart of a stunning breakdown of the country’s health care system — a crisis foretold.
More than a year into the pandemic, deaths in Brazil are at their peak and highly contagious variants of the coronavirus are sweeping the nation, enabled by political dysfunction, widespread complacency and conspiracy theories. The country, whose leader, President Jair Bolsonaro, has played down the threat of the virus, is now reporting more new cases and deaths per day than any other country in the world.
“We have never seen a failure of the health system of this magnitude,” said Ana de Lemos, the executive director of Doctors Without Borders in Brazil. “And we don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel.”
On Wednesday, the country surpassed 300,000 Covid-19 deaths, with roughly 125 Brazilians succumbing to the disease every hour. Health officials in public and private hospitals were scrambling to expand critical care units, stock up on dwindling supplies of oxygen and procure scarce intubation sedatives that are being sold at an exponential markup.
Sound familiar?
BRAZIL’S COLLAPSE
Read the full article about how political infighting, distrust of science and a highly contagious variant have overwhelmed Brazil.
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‘The entire system is on the verge of collapse’: Covid-19 overwhelms Brazil.
The patients began arriving at hospitals in Porto Alegre far sicker and younger than before. Funeral homes were experiencing a steady uptick in business, while exhausted doctors and nurses pleaded in February for a lockdown to save lives.
But Sebastião Melo, Porto Alegre’s mayor, argued there was a greater imperative.
“Put your life on the line so that we can save the economy,” Mr. Melo appealed to his constituents in late February.
Now Porto Alegre, a prosperous city in southern Brazil, is at the heart of a stunning breakdown of the country’s health care system — a crisis foretold.
More than a year into the pandemic, deaths in Brazil are at their peak and highly contagious variants of the coronavirus are sweeping the nation, enabled by political dysfunction, widespread complacency and conspiracy theories. The country, whose leader, President Jair Bolsonaro, has played down the threat of the virus, is now reporting more new cases and deaths per day than any other country in the world.
“We have never seen a failure of the health system of this magnitude,” said Ana de Lemos, the executive director of Doctors Without Borders in Brazil. “And we don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel.”
On Wednesday, the country surpassed 300,000 Covid-19 deaths, with roughly 125 Brazilians succumbing to the disease every hour. Health officials in public and private hospitals were scrambling to expand critical care units, stock up on dwindling supplies of oxygen and procure scarce intubation sedatives that are being sold at an exponential markup.
Sound familiar?
BRAZIL’S COLLAPSE
Read the full article about how political infighting, distrust of science and a highly contagious variant have overwhelmed Brazil.
printer
Well-Known Member
It is the nanobots that are the real sticker. They are taking over and the body is giving a good fight. But you know, in the end, resistance is futile.
printer
Well-Known Member
I was the straw that broke the back, me with my "you are either a fool or a troll", the dickfest came in reply. I feel so.... ...dirty. I should not have held up the mirror.
On way to intelligent people my niece has a double masters and is working on her third. It is in the Humanities, physiological shit, think one was society something. Or is she working on her forth? She had her second quite a few years ago.
Hey, does anybody remember Kennedy getting shot? It was on the TV, my mom was cooking and ironing in the kitchen. There was a door between the kitchen and the dining room with the TV in there. The door was open and you can see the TV from the kitchen. I really was not up on the US at that time, just remember everyone there was really sad.
On way to intelligent people my niece has a double masters and is working on her third. It is in the Humanities, physiological shit, think one was society something. Or is she working on her forth? She had her second quite a few years ago.
Hey, does anybody remember Kennedy getting shot? It was on the TV, my mom was cooking and ironing in the kitchen. There was a door between the kitchen and the dining room with the TV in there. The door was open and you can see the TV from the kitchen. I really was not up on the US at that time, just remember everyone there was really sad.
TacoMac
Well-Known Member
His next sock puppet will post in 4...3...2...1...woah
PJ Diaz
Well-Known Member
I've already shut you down, you just don't know when to stop. You and Hal are the whipping boys of the week!
I've established that you are unable to match wits with me, and our "toe to toe" IQ comparison was ignored by you. I know that you are proud of your community college diploma, but the rest of us call your school "high school with ashtrays" and disregard it as an achievement. Since I'm probably twice your age, you will never be better than me, so suck it up kid.
You should stop now, while you're behind.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
So how can you tell you have sufficient levels of antibodies? By getting covid I guess, I hope they are giving refunds for this shit. No wonder it doesn't work so well with variants, unlike the mRNAs, J&J and and AZ.
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The U.A.E. offers a third dose of Chinese vaccine to some with low immune response. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
The U.A.E. offers a third dose of Chinese vaccine to some with low immune response.
The distributor of China’s Sinopharm vaccine in the United Arab Emirates says it has started offering a “very small number” of people a third shot after these recipients reported insufficient levels of antibodies following a two-dose regimen.
The distributor, G42 Healthcare, has found that some people were “not really responsive” to the Sinopharm vaccine, Walid Zaher, the company’s chief researcher, told Dubai Eye Radio on Sunday.
Dr. Zaher’s disclosure could add to questions about the overall efficacy of the Sinopharm vaccine, which has been rolled out to at least six countries. The state-owned company has not reported detailed Phase 3 clinical data for scientists to independently assess the strength of its vaccines. Sinopharm did not respond to a request for comment.
It is unclear which of Sinopharm’s two vaccines Dr. Zaher was referring to. One was developed in conjunction with the Beijing Institute of Biological Products, and the other with the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products. In December, the Emirates became the first government to approve the vaccine that was made with the Beijing Institute.
Dr. Zaher said that G42 Healthcare had approached people to be part of a study in which they were given a third shot.
“No one vaccine will be working for everyone,” he said.
Pfizer and BioNTech said last month that they planned to test a third booster shot in response to concerns over coronavirus variants. Similarly, Moderna said it had shipped doses of a newly adjusted vaccine to the National Institutes of Health for testing that would address the variant first detected in South Africa, known as B.1.351.
Dr. Farida al-Hosani, a spokeswoman for the Emirates’ health sector, has also said that residents and Emiratis inoculated with the Sinopharm vaccine can get a third dose if they do not develop sufficient antibodies, telling the National newspaper this month that only a small number of people would be affected.
Dr. Zaher said he did not know the exact number of people who would require a third shot “because obviously we did not measure everyone, but it’s a very small number.” He said anyone who was concerned about their antibody levels after receiving the Sinopharm vaccine could approach their doctor about getting a third shot.
Sinopharm has said the vaccine made with the Beijing Institute has an efficacy rate of 79 percent, while the one made with the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products has an efficacy rate of 72.5 percent. Both are above the 50 percent threshold that the World Health Organization has said would make a vaccine effective for general use.
In addition to Sinopharm, the Emirates, which is inoculating its population faster than any country except Israel and the Seychelles, is also using the Pfizer-BioNTech, Oxford-AstraZeneca and Sputnik V vaccines. The government is donating some of the Sinopharm doses it purchased to countries where it has strategic or commercial interests, including the Seychelles and Egypt.
But some doctors in Egypt have been reluctant to receive the shots, citing a lack of trust in the data released by Sinopharm and the Emirates, where some of the trials were held. Malaysia, one of the Emirates’ biggest trading partners, also declined an offer of 500,000 doses, saying that regulators would have to independently approve the Sinopharm vaccine.
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The U.A.E. offers a third dose of Chinese vaccine to some with low immune response. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
The U.A.E. offers a third dose of Chinese vaccine to some with low immune response.
The distributor of China’s Sinopharm vaccine in the United Arab Emirates says it has started offering a “very small number” of people a third shot after these recipients reported insufficient levels of antibodies following a two-dose regimen.
The distributor, G42 Healthcare, has found that some people were “not really responsive” to the Sinopharm vaccine, Walid Zaher, the company’s chief researcher, told Dubai Eye Radio on Sunday.
Dr. Zaher’s disclosure could add to questions about the overall efficacy of the Sinopharm vaccine, which has been rolled out to at least six countries. The state-owned company has not reported detailed Phase 3 clinical data for scientists to independently assess the strength of its vaccines. Sinopharm did not respond to a request for comment.
It is unclear which of Sinopharm’s two vaccines Dr. Zaher was referring to. One was developed in conjunction with the Beijing Institute of Biological Products, and the other with the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products. In December, the Emirates became the first government to approve the vaccine that was made with the Beijing Institute.
Dr. Zaher said that G42 Healthcare had approached people to be part of a study in which they were given a third shot.
“No one vaccine will be working for everyone,” he said.
Pfizer and BioNTech said last month that they planned to test a third booster shot in response to concerns over coronavirus variants. Similarly, Moderna said it had shipped doses of a newly adjusted vaccine to the National Institutes of Health for testing that would address the variant first detected in South Africa, known as B.1.351.
Dr. Farida al-Hosani, a spokeswoman for the Emirates’ health sector, has also said that residents and Emiratis inoculated with the Sinopharm vaccine can get a third dose if they do not develop sufficient antibodies, telling the National newspaper this month that only a small number of people would be affected.
Dr. Zaher said he did not know the exact number of people who would require a third shot “because obviously we did not measure everyone, but it’s a very small number.” He said anyone who was concerned about their antibody levels after receiving the Sinopharm vaccine could approach their doctor about getting a third shot.
Sinopharm has said the vaccine made with the Beijing Institute has an efficacy rate of 79 percent, while the one made with the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products has an efficacy rate of 72.5 percent. Both are above the 50 percent threshold that the World Health Organization has said would make a vaccine effective for general use.
In addition to Sinopharm, the Emirates, which is inoculating its population faster than any country except Israel and the Seychelles, is also using the Pfizer-BioNTech, Oxford-AstraZeneca and Sputnik V vaccines. The government is donating some of the Sinopharm doses it purchased to countries where it has strategic or commercial interests, including the Seychelles and Egypt.
But some doctors in Egypt have been reluctant to receive the shots, citing a lack of trust in the data released by Sinopharm and the Emirates, where some of the trials were held. Malaysia, one of the Emirates’ biggest trading partners, also declined an offer of 500,000 doses, saying that regulators would have to independently approve the Sinopharm vaccine.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
i asked you long ago to list the risks of getting the vaccine and you just decided to cry like this instead
no one takes you seriously
