If a woman can abort a child, should a man be able to initiate the abortion?

that's what i meant by it takes to have a child, the conception part of it surely doesn't happen alone..
idk, like i said, i could never in a million years walk away from a baby someone had that was half mine, even if i didn't really want it when it was conceived, i'd put on my big boy pants and do the right thing, simple as that..
Its not yours if you don't want it.

Your old-school view on genetics is somewhat scary.
 
I apologize if I missed it, but I thought TTT made a pretty interesting point about the emphasis put on male contraception while female contraception is just about ignored in mainstream society, what was your response to that? I agree the convenience factor of just slipping on a condom is much more appealing than the female equivalent, what do you think about that?

I'd certainly be content with that, but in my experience, it's usually not an option on the table after PIV

every girl friend i have had for many years, i made sure she was on the birth control pill, and made sure she took it daily.. the birth control pill is about 99% effective if used correctly..
and girl i wasn't really in a relationship with that i was having sex with, you'd bet your ass i made sure i used a condom, whether she was on the pill or not..
 
idk harrekin, like i said, i get off whether i wear a condom or not, i've never had a situation where i was having sex with a a chick and i couldn't ejaculate..
Some people literally can't pop if they wear one tho, sometimes one is simply not available.

Saying one can plan for these situations at all times is ridiculous, however given the fact there are "options" available, should a mans life for at least the next 18 years be decided by the woman alone?

Is that equality?
 
wtf do you mean it's not mine if i don't want it?? does the half of the chromosomes that came from me magically change into someone else's??
Would you consider a clone of you to have equal rights to your property?

Why your view of genetics so old school?
 
Some people literally can't pop if they wear one tho, sometimes one is simply not available.

Saying one can plan for these situations at all times is ridiculous, however given the fact there are "options" available, should a mans life for at least the next 18 years be decided by the woman alone?

Is that equality?

who said having a baby is anything near being equal?? does a man carry a baby in his body for 40 weeks? does a man get fat, and feel uneasy and get morning sickness? does a man develop breast milk in his tits? i could go on and on.. there's nothing equal about having a baby.. all of the work is on the woman once a man ejaculates inside of her..
 
We could report this homophobia but figured you'll just hang yourself. Shouldn't be long.

Ever notice these guys who go on about 'being butthurt' r the biggest homophobes? Pretty repressed and confused i'm guessing. Why such discomfort?
hows it homophobia? you gays want sex without the responsibility of children. hell yall can't even get off with a woman when yall have condoms on. Definitely sounds like you might fit in with the gays
 
Would you consider a clone of you to have equal rights to your property?

Why your view of genetics so old school?

what on earth do you mean my view on genetics is old school? just because i'm a man and would own up to my responsibility if i ejaculated in a woman and created a baby in the process.. well, if that makes me old school i'm fucking proud of it..

and how did someone get my dna to make a clone of me?? this clone didn't come to fruition without my knowing about it before hand..
 
i think i'm done here..
i'll just leave it as this.. if i ever ejaculated in a woman and in the process we created a baby, i'd be proud to do the right thing, the right thing, what a joke that comment even is, as if taken care of a kid that i helped create should ever be a second thought..
if you're happy to have sex and create a baby in the process and walk away after and never pay a cent to a lil person that's running around this world that has half of your dna in it and never give it a second thought, well, we're two very different people, and for that i'm glad..
 
Just so everyone knows im not biased my ex of 3 years decided to get rid of ours and i did not agree i was kind of excited when i found out at first, but imo you cant convince a girl to keep a baby she doesnt want, well you probably can but i think its detrimental to both the girl and not fair to the child, and being in this situation really isnt fair because as the guy, you have an opinion, but no control or choice in the situation.

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Well, you do have the choice to not get her pregnant in the first place
 
Well, you do have the choice to not get her pregnant in the first place
that's what i keep saying red.. there's only about a 5-7 day window in a month where a woman can get pregnant.. if you're dating someone, you should know their fertility window, and abstain during those days, or do what it takes to have sex and not create a mini me.. it's really not that hard.
 
Right after you get done going down on her, right before you stick it in, you tell her you need her to sign something.

It is a preconception agreement. The terms of which may change depending on your wishes as the man.

Basically, she signs an agreement that she must abort any child resulting from the following intercourse.
Then she tells you to go back to giving her head. And you never see her again. That agreement is unenforceable.
 
Well, you do have the choice to not get her pregnant in the first place
Broken condom isnt my fault if you had kept reading. And we plan bd it, but plan b doesnt work when you already preggo... so if you go the morning after theres a good chance it could be too late.

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