Satellite data proves Earth has not been warming the past 18 years - it's stable

Padawanbater2

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What caused the ice age? What caused the end of the ice age? Why isn't the earth still frozen? There were no humans then, no industry....so what could have possibly happened right?
It depends on which one you're talking about, continental drift and ocean currents have a lot to do with temperature on Earth

Your point seems to be "it happens naturally, even without humans, so what does it matter?"

Well, it matters because if we are the cause, we are also the solution, and our species will be well beyond the scientific capabilities to face any natural ice age in the future
 

NoDrama

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You want to really solve the anthropogenic warming problem? Start killing humans by the millions, problem solved nearly overnight. Or you could take a longer approach and try to make humans less fertile or too psychologically damaged to actually want children. The most simple and easily justified reason would be a large war that involves many many nations. You could kill a couple of billion and solve the global warming problem, not too mention the oil and energy problem and starvation problem and money problem and debt problem........

Things are starting to look that way, other large powerful nations moving away from the dollar, setting up their own trade systems, commodity systems, international clearing systems......almost as if parts of the rest of the world are getting ready to jump ship on us. Perhaps if we start a big war with them we can force their hand too soon and keep dollar hegemony, but one of our mistakes was giving one of those nations most favored trading status so that will be very difficult to dislodge them from the world scene so it is best to rattle sabres with that nations partner in finance, the big bear.

A really big terrible war could not only enrich the bankers and big corporations a great deal, it would also solve many of the current problems the world faces. War, it's in your future, you can bank on it.
 

Abiqua

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Right wing or left wing doesn't matter when there's demonstrable evidence to support a conclusion.

The earth is warming, and it's warming faster now than it ever has. There is a strong correlation between the industrial age, the burning of fossil fuels, and the exponentially growing amount of CO2 we pump into the air.
False. Not that I am saying global warming that is anthropogenically enhanced doesn't exist. But we aren't even close to the warming period found in the fossil record around Lake Chad about 45-60 million years ago. Just sayin..... also global warming takes a lot of viewpoints into context without actually understanding their impact, ocean currents, magnetosphere, etc.

All I am saying is that we have some work to do, because whatever it is being pinned on at the moment seems to be rather political than fact.
 

NoDrama

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It depends on which one you're talking about, continental drift and ocean currents have a lot to do with temperature on Earth

Your point seems to be "it happens naturally, even without humans, so what does it matter?"

Well, it matters because if we are the cause, we are also the solution, and our species will be well beyond the scientific capabilities to face any natural ice age in the future
We have been doing things for 50 years now, this is not something new, we didn't figure out that humans can have a negative effect on the environment just yesterday. We have made cars much cleaner, electricity generation cleaner blah blah blah, you can't change the world overnight when it comes to energy.
 

Doer

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People have been right about the weather for so long, and they were all wrong.

Nothing has changed about that.
 

Red1966

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You want to really solve the anthropogenic warming problem? Start killing humans by the millions, problem solved nearly overnight. Or you could take a longer approach and try to make humans less fertile or too psychologically damaged to actually want children. The most simple and easily justified reason would be a large war that involves many many nations. You could kill a couple of billion and solve the global warming problem, not too mention the oil and energy problem and starvation problem and money problem and debt problem........

Things are starting to look that way, other large powerful nations moving away from the dollar, setting up their own trade systems, commodity systems, international clearing systems......almost as if parts of the rest of the world are getting ready to jump ship on us. Perhaps if we start a big war with them we can force their hand too soon and keep dollar hegemony, but one of our mistakes was giving one of those nations most favored trading status so that will be very difficult to dislodge them from the world scene so it is best to rattle sabres with that nations partner in finance, the big bear.

A really big terrible war could not only enrich the bankers and big corporations a great deal, it would also solve many of the current problems the world faces. War, it's in your future, you can bank on it.
You're just trying to cheer us up
 

Ceepea

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local weather is the result of global climate
Climate is a pattern of weather over time, weather is just what's happening at that current moment. So, I don't think local weather is affected by the climate, as much as the climate is made up of the local weather patterns.
 
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