Satellite data proves Earth has not been warming the past 18 years - it's stable

WORDZofWORDZCRAFT

Well-Known Member
NAH MAN IT'S ABOUT IRONY UNLESS YOU HAVE NO COMPREHENSION OF WORDS AND THEIR MEANINGS AND NUANCES OF LANGUAGE

An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up
In your face

A traffic jam when you're already late
A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
And isn't it ironic...don't you think
A little too ironic...and, yeah, I really do think...

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
Life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
Helping you out
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
NAH MAN IT'S ABOUT IRONY UNLESS YOU HAVE NO COMPREHENSION OF WORDS AND THEIR MEANINGS AND NUANCES OF LANGUAGE

An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight
And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out when
You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up
In your face

A traffic jam when you're already late
A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife
And isn't it ironic...don't you think
A little too ironic...and, yeah, I really do think...

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
Life has a funny, funny way of helping you out
Helping you out
Isn't it ironic?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Now if only you could assert your affinity for black font towards black people..

It's not rocket science, grandpa. Im sure if you can single handedly expose the global climate change hoax you can figure out how to properly quote a colored post...
oh, that hurt.

from a completely objective point of view, that was a fucking burn.

i';ve taken a few of those, so i know.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
Now if only you could assert your affinity for black font towards black people..

It's not rocket science, grandpa. Im sure if you can single handedly expose the global climate change hoax you can figure out how to properly quote a colored post...
I find your constant assertions of racism, retardation, and homophobia a unique response to factual debate. OK, it's not unique. What would be the word? Oh, yeah.......FAIL.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I am a little ahead of this since no one seems to have puzzled it yet,
Original thinking strikes again. From Google just now.

No results found for "Why stop the ice age".

I have Pad speechless on this one.

Anybody else care to discuss the madness?

MIT is on the ball as usual, but my thinking lead me here, not the other way around.

http://www.technologyreview.com/article/416786/global-warming-vs-the-next-ice-age/

With so much attention focused on global warming, this chilly prospect has been all but forgotten. Given how catastrophic another ice age could be, one might be tempted to ask whether a human-caused increase in atmospheric and ocean temperatures will actually be a boon.

Analyses of air trapped in glacial ice over the last 800,000 years show that atmospheric carbon dioxide generally ranged between 200 and 300 parts per million by volume (ppmv); increases in these levels were slightly preceded by increases in temperature caused by natural orbital shifts. During this period, global temperature varied by about 12 oC. Now, carbon levels are approaching 400 ppmv as the burning of fossil fuels pumps more and more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Even if the rate of growth could be moderated enough to stabilize levels at about 550 ppmv, average temperatures might well rise by about 5 oC–with devastating effects for us earthlings, such as rising sea levels and dramatic changes in weather patterns.


Also featured in:
MIT News magazine
January/February 2010
More in this issue »



COLD, HARD FACTS Franklin Hadley Cocks ’63 visits the grave of Louis Agassiz, the great proponent of the ice age concept.

Global warming is an inescapable issue for our age. But 180 years ago, most scientists believed that Earth had been steadily cooling since it was formed. When Louis Agassiz presented the concept of a Great Ice Age to the Swiss Society of Natural Sciences in 1837, his suggestion that the planet had turned colder and then warmed up again was met with skepticism and even hostility, triggering years of fierce scientific debate before the idea was accepted.

Exactly why our planet occasionally cools down has taken more than a century to work out. Now we know that cyclic gravitational tugs from Jupiter and Saturn periodically elongate Earth’s orbit, and this effect combines from time to time with slow changes in the direction and degree of Earth’s tilt that are caused by the gravity of our large moon. Consequently, summer sunlight around the poles is reduced, and high-latitude regions such as Alaska, northern Canada, and Siberia turn cold enough to preserve snow year-round. This constant snow cover reflects a great deal of sunlight, cooling things down even more, and a new ice age begins. Naturally, this process does not occur with anything like the speed portrayed in the movie The Day After Tomorrow, but geological and other evidence shows that it’s happened at least four times.

But even that warming will not stave off the eventual return of huge glaciers, because ice ages last for millennia and fossil fuels will not.In about 300 years, all available fossil fuels may well have been consumed.Over the following centuries, excess carbon dioxide will naturally dissolve into the oceans or get trapped by the formation of carbonate minerals. Such processes won’t be offset by the industrial emissions we see today, and atmospheric carbon dioxide will slowly decline toward preindustrial levels. In about 2,000 years, when the types of planetary motions that can induce polar cooling start to coincide again, the current warming trend will be a distant memory.

This means that humanity will be hit by a one-two punch the likes of which we have never seen. Nature is as unforgiving to men as it was to dinosaurs; advanced civilization will not survive unless we develop energy sources that curb the carbon emissions heating the planet today and help us fend off the cold when the ice age comes. Solar, nuclear, and other non-fossil-fuel energy sources need to be developed now, before carbon emissions get out of hand.
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So, the logic seems to be WE ARE FUCKED. Because that last sentence makes no sense to me.

I am sure what is happening is ill conceived. All of it. All that got us here and all that is suppose to save us is ill conceived.

Mankind is fucked and needs to get out of this well.

So, if the argument is we should somehow let it happened and somehow an advanced but, oh so small, group of survivors can make it, that is Lifeboat thinking and mankind is surely fucked.

Logic

A- oceans will rise slowly and only about 4-5 feet in the next 150 years.

B- after the ice Age held off for 2000 extra years (since we did nothing so as to give more time) the oceans drop 200 feet and the Continent Shelves are exposed. So long Golden Gate and every other harbor, bay and river on Earth. No worries, we can't move out to the edge of the new ocean. There is no new ocean front. The Ice sheets occupy the shelves.

C- Stop A so B will happen 2000 years sooner?

What the fuck>>>>???????????

Someone please tell me what the FUCK!!!!
 
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NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
I am a little ahead of this since no one seems to have puzzled it yet,
Original thinking strikes again. From Google just now.

No results found for "Why stop the ice age".

I have Pad speechless on this one.

Anybody else care to discuss the madness?

MIT is on the ball as usual, but my thinking lead me here, not the other way around.

http://www.technologyreview.com/article/416786/global-warming-vs-the-next-ice-age/

With so much attention focused on global warming, this chilly prospect has been all but forgotten. Given how catastrophic another ice age could be, one might be tempted to ask whether a human-caused increase in atmospheric and ocean temperatures will actually be a boon.

Analyses of air trapped in glacial ice over the last 800,000 years show that atmospheric carbon dioxide generally ranged between 200 and 300 parts per million by volume (ppmv); increases in these levels were slightly preceded by increases in temperature caused by natural orbital shifts. During this period, global temperature varied by about 12 oC. Now, carbon levels are approaching 400 ppmv as the burning of fossil fuels pumps more and more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Even if the rate of growth could be moderated enough to stabilize levels at about 550 ppmv, average temperatures might well rise by about 5 oC–with devastating effects for us earthlings, such as rising sea levels and dramatic changes in weather patterns.


Also featured in:
MIT News magazine
January/February 2010
More in this issue »



COLD, HARD FACTS Franklin Hadley Cocks ’63 visits the grave of Louis Agassiz, the great proponent of the ice age concept.

Global warming is an inescapable issue for our age. But 180 years ago, most scientists believed that Earth had been steadily cooling since it was formed. When Louis Agassiz presented the concept of a Great Ice Age to the Swiss Society of Natural Sciences in 1837, his suggestion that the planet had turned colder and then warmed up again was met with skepticism and even hostility, triggering years of fierce scientific debate before the idea was accepted.

Exactly why our planet occasionally cools down has taken more than a century to work out. Now we know that cyclic gravitational tugs from Jupiter and Saturn periodically elongate Earth’s orbit, and this effect combines from time to time with slow changes in the direction and degree of Earth’s tilt that are caused by the gravity of our large moon. Consequently, summer sunlight around the poles is reduced, and high-latitude regions such as Alaska, northern Canada, and Siberia turn cold enough to preserve snow year-round. This constant snow cover reflects a great deal of sunlight, cooling things down even more, and a new ice age begins. Naturally, this process does not occur with anything like the speed portrayed in the movie The Day After Tomorrow, but geological and other evidence shows that it’s happened at least four times.

But even that warming will not stave off the eventual return of huge glaciers, because ice ages last for millennia and fossil fuels will not.In about 300 years, all available fossil fuels may well have been consumed.Over the following centuries, excess carbon dioxide will naturally dissolve into the oceans or get trapped by the formation of carbonate minerals. Such processes won’t be offset by the industrial emissions we see today, and atmospheric carbon dioxide will slowly decline toward preindustrial levels. In about 2,000 years, when the types of planetary motions that can induce polar cooling start to coincide again, the current warming trend will be a distant memory.

This means that humanity will be hit by a one-two punch the likes of which we have never seen. Nature is as unforgiving to men as it was to dinosaurs; advanced civilization will not survive unless we develop energy sources that curb the carbon emissions heating the planet today and help us fend off the cold when the ice age comes. Solar, nuclear, and other non-fossil-fuel energy sources need to be developed now, before carbon emissions get out of hand.
---------------------------------


So, the logic seems to be WE ARE FUCKED. Because that last sentence makes no sense to me.

I am sure what is happening is ill conceived. All of it. All that got us here and all that is suppose to save us is ill conceived.

Mankind is fucked and needs to get out of this well.

So, if the argument is we should somehow let it happened and somehow an advanced but, oh so small, group of survivors can make it, that is Lifeboat thinking and mankind is surely fucked.

Logic

A- oceans will rise slowly and only about 4-5 feet in the next 150 years.

B- after the ice Age held off for 2000 extra years (since we did nothing so as to give more time) the oceans drop 200 feet and the Continent Shelves are exposed. So long Golden Gate and every other harbor, bay and river on Earth. No worries, we can't move out to the edge of the new ocean. There is no new ocean front. The Ice sheets occupy the shelves.

C- Stop A so B will happen 2000 years sooner?

What the fuck>>>>???????????

Someone please tell me what the FUCK!!!!
Precisely what the fuck...

Mankind should be working on technologies to adapt to both colder and warmer weather rather than trying to stop a cycle based on the orbits of the planets.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
We could always turn the temperature gradient of the globe into a giant Heat Pump. But for such an operation, we'll need Nev's "Jesus Christ" powers to somehow make and place the reservoirs on the poles and the equator.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Precisely what the fuck...

Mankind should be working on technologies to adapt to both colder and warmer weather rather than trying to stop a cycle based on the orbits of the planets.
Well, you went over. They want us to stop stopping, so we ride into it 2000 years early.
 

sheskunk

Well-Known Member
This is the part that I have yet to understand. The argument always centers around whether or not it's actually happening. I've always said "Let's just say it is happening. Now what?" I'm still waiting for the answer.

If the urgency to "Save the World" was as true as it's being made out to be, shouldn't we already be doing something drastic to stop all this? Other than smart cars and a few regulations?
 
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