Congress over ride the ppl choice

SmokeyDan

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gonna need a citation for that, bignbushy.

ya know, if you're not too busy hiding your homosexuality from your daddy and making subway sandwiches.
Anyone with a pulse who has happened to keep their eyes open in the last 4 years knows that the majority of people don't like how the bill was past, lies by the President, lies about the idiot after it passed talking about how dumb we all are.

People didn't like it being sold to us as a non tax, then the administration successfully defended it to SCOTUS by claiming congress power to tax

People may favor doing away with preexisting conditions, but they don't like being manipulated and lied to.
 

UncleBuck

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Anyone with a pulse who has happened to keep their eyes open in the last 4 years knows that the majority of people don't like how the bill was past, lies by the President, lies about the idiot after it passed talking about how dumb we all are.

People didn't like it being sold to us as a non tax, then the administration successfully defended it to SCOTUS by claiming congress power to tax

People may favor doing away with preexisting conditions, but they don't like being manipulated and lied to.
apparently 60% of people did like being lied to.

you gonna bother to post a single poll to cite your claim that provisions of the bill were unpopular? or are you just gonna make a liar out of yourself again, bignbushy?
 

justugh

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read the not just the crap on the surface

look who owns it and who founded the orginal one under that name

good day sir i have better things to do then debate u about something u do not care to look into
 

SmokeyDan

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apparently 60% of people did like being lied to.

you gonna bother to post a single poll to cite your claim that provisions of the bill were unpopular? or are you just gonna make a liar out of yourself again, bignbushy?
Idk where you get your numbers.

Every poll I've ever seen looks like this one here.

this tracks the popularity over the past few years. It has enjoined brief moments where it was popular. The gap has widened as of late.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/01/suddenly-obamacare-is-more-unpopular-than-ever/


By the way, I've found out what you are doing.

Despite not liking it, some people are saying keeping it and improve it (probably because of preexisting conditions and other good things in the bill) but think it fucking sucks as is.

Basically your like the guy counting the battered woman too scared to leave her husband in the camp with people who are happily married.
 

Dr Kynes

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read the not just the crap on the surface

look who owns it and who founded the orginal one under that name

good day sir i have better things to do then debate u about something u do not care to look into

did you just Double Down on Retardation?

yes. yes you did.

attempting to argue that the Huffington Post is a newspaper at all, much less "one of the oldest" is simply indefensible.

there are not enough weasel words in the world to transform that kind of stupidity into something resembling rational thought.

you should just admit the truth, you dont give a shit about facts, truth, journalism, or reality, all you desire is somebody who will tell you how terrible america is, and how rotten you are for living in america, so you can feel justified in your hatred for your parents.

youre seething with Post Modern Self Loathing.
 

UncleBuck

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Idk where you get your numbers.

Every poll I've ever seen looks like this one here.

this tracks the popularity over the past few years. It has enjoined brief moments where it was popular. The gap has widened as of late.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/01/suddenly-obamacare-is-more-unpopular-than-ever/


By the way, I've found out what you are doing.

Despite not liking it, some people are saying keeping it and improve it (probably because of preexisting conditions and other good things in the bill) but think it fucking sucks as is.

Basically your like the guy counting the battered woman too scared to leave her husband in the camp with people who are happily married.
so still no citation of those unpopular provisions?

thought so, bignbushy.
 

SmokeyDan

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so still no citation of those unpopular provisions?

thought so, bignbushy.
I just gave you a link ding bat.

Obamacare allows reasonably priced purchase of health insurance other than through an employer and excludes preexisting conditions.

If you had to think why half the country didn't like that what would you think. It's a no brainer.

No transparency in the process.

Lied to about keeping plans and doctors.

Told it wasn't a tax, then defended as a tax.

The guy hired to help write it goes out and says it was able to be passed because we're all stupid.

Obama playing king with his virtual line item veto handling of certain parts of it. Why can't we enforce the employer mandate yet?

I could go on.

That's why people don't like it. What the fuck else have these demonstrably dishonest and unethical people put in there for us?
 

UncleBuck

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I just gave you a link ding bat.

Obamacare allows reasonably priced purchase of health insurance other than through an employer and excludes preexisting conditions.

If you had to think why half the country didn't like that what would you think. It's a no brainer.

No transparency in the process.

Lied to about keeping plans and doctors.

Told it wasn't a tax, then defended as a tax.

The guy hired to help write it goes out and says it was able to be passed because we're all stupid.

Obama playing king with his virtual line item veto handling of certain parts of it. Why can't we enforce the employer mandate yet?

I could go on.

That's why people don't like it. What the fuck else have these demonstrably dishonest and unethical people put in there for us?
your link says nothing about your claim about unpopular provisions, bignbushy.

i hope you're not taking your obvious anger out on subway customers or your boyfriend's anus.
 

SmokeyDan

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your link says nothing about your claim about unpopular provisions, bignbushy.

i hope you're not taking your obvious anger out on subway customers or your boyfriend's anus.
Then you can't fucking read.

It talks about the ebbs and flows of popularity. And each time it gains some ground and gets popular, something happens.
 

schuylaar

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So doing things against people's will is ok if they like it?

It's ok to rape a girl, in your mind, if you go down on her afterward.


Your present popularity numbers are a bit misleading. You're including in your support figures people who think we should have single payer .
stinking thinking analogy..how can you possibly compare the two?
 

SmokeyDan

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stinking thinking analogy..how can you possibly compare the two?
You can compare anything, doesn't mean it's a good comparison.

My point was that he apparently thinks it's ok to do things to people that they do not want as long as some point afterwards they say it's cool.

Delayed consent if you will, does not undo overriding my will.
 

schuylaar

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You can compare anything, doesn't mean it's a good comparison.

My point was that he apparently thinks it's ok to do things to people that they do not want as long as some point afterwards they say it's cool.

Delayed consent if you will, does not undo overriding my will.
have you ever been sexually assaulted?

i'm guessing no.

you would never use rape as comparison to anything.
 

SmokeyDan

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have you ever been sexually assaulted?

i'm guessing no.

you would never use rape as comparison to anything.
Rape is a crime that has been blown out of proportion.

It is no worse to sexually subvert someone's will than to do so financially, or many other ways.

I'm not saying rape is good or isn't awful. I'm saying it is no worse to be raped than it is to be robbed or beaten.

I'd rather be raped than a lot of other things people could do to someone.
 
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