UncleBuck
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that ship sailed long ago.
Would you support universal basic income if it meant eliminating all other social safety net progs?
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They go into it because everyone needs a fucking job if they don't want to be worthless piece of mooching shit, and teaching is something they enjoy, so boom, get paid to do something you love.
You want to get paid to do jack shit, while you wander around enjoying yourself. Never gonna be.
Red1966
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why do people contradict themself with reading the thread
Red1966
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You just don't understand science.
Red1966
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It would sure alter my budget!
Red1966
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You have to be a real dumbass to think that this would benefit our country
If I had to pay the taxes associated with this new system, I'd just stop working and let the people stupid enough to give away most of their paychecks break their backs. Today, I get to keep most of my check so I bitch and keep working. If someone else gets most of my check, well fuck working then.
Just mail me my check after your work day is done. I'll be at the beach.
Just mail me my check after your work day is done. I'll be at the beach.
Red1966
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You don't seem to have anything to support your proposition other than hatred and vile. Do you really expect anyone to be influinced by your posts?
UncleBuck
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wow, convincing rebuttal.
Red1966
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Trying to put words in my mouth? Sure, many teachers went into the trade for altruistic reasons. That last about two months. Then it just becomes a job babysitting your bratty kids. One many, if not most, will gladly leave if they don't need the paycheck. Once again, You don't seem to have anything to support your proposition other than hatred and vile. Do you really expect anyone to be influinced by your posts?
UncleBuck
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UBI would reduce your current tax burden by whatever the amount of the UBI.
so if you pay taxes on $20k worth of income from blowing truckers and burning tires in your backyard, and UBI is $12k, you would only be paying taxes on $8k.
maybe try to be slightly informed before opening your mouth to remove all doubt.
UncleBuck
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Padawanbater2
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Would you stop working if you received $1,500 from the gov. per month?
panhead
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I get the whole concept & why its a cheaper alternative but wouldnt it make more sense if there was a cut off point , people makin $500k a yr wouldnt even need or miss the $1,500 .
King Arthur
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Shit got real in this thread while I was away, I need some popcorn but michael jackson ate it already.
Wait, why do you believe it's cheaper??? As a society we don't let people die on the streets now, (the concept behind social safety nets), why do you believe that just because we tossed them a 1500 a mo. bone, we'd be willing to do it then?
There are going to be people for whatever the reason can't earn any extra income; and they won't be able to live on 1500/mo..
So now what????
This is nothing more than a half baked idea ... there is no major country doing this. Denmark isn't even close. It's another "pothead" myth ... then there is Bernie.
King Arthur
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You are telling me people can't live on 1500 a month when there are places renting for 2 bedrooms 600 bucks? Might be in a shitty location but hey its low rent.
Yeah, I can come up with a list of hypotheticals and I'm sure you could as well.
My main point is that the "safety" nets aren't going to go away. People need them.
TheHermit
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Personally, I think it would cause an economic collapse. I doubt most would keep their minimum wage jobs making cheeseburgers and pushing shopping carts. There would be a huge labor shortage. This would drive wages up for those still wanting to work, but then there is also the issue of inflation. Due to having to pay higher wages, prices would increase. Slumlords across the country would be raising rents the moment people started getting checks.
There is also the issue of how to pay for it all. For it to work, there would probably need to be an 80-90 percent tax on those working. What would be the point of taking out close to six figures in student loans and spending years in college if the government is going to take most of your earnings. Would it be worth all that effort to get a 50k a year job if the government takes 40 of it in taxes. Would it even be worth working at all in such a scenario?
Free money is an easy sell to people, after all, who doesn't like free money? But I am not sure it would be good for the country's economic health. I am not sure it could be done from a financial standpoint either. I could see maybe a smaller, more supplementary type of income, say 4-6 thousand a year. That may not be enough to live on, but it would make a big difference to someone making eight bucks an hour.
There is also the issue of how to pay for it all. For it to work, there would probably need to be an 80-90 percent tax on those working. What would be the point of taking out close to six figures in student loans and spending years in college if the government is going to take most of your earnings. Would it be worth all that effort to get a 50k a year job if the government takes 40 of it in taxes. Would it even be worth working at all in such a scenario?
Free money is an easy sell to people, after all, who doesn't like free money? But I am not sure it would be good for the country's economic health. I am not sure it could be done from a financial standpoint either. I could see maybe a smaller, more supplementary type of income, say 4-6 thousand a year. That may not be enough to live on, but it would make a big difference to someone making eight bucks an hour.