Would you support universal basic income if it meant eliminating all other social safety net progs?

Rob Roy

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no need to cherry pick, we can go down every item on the BLS list. chicken, eggs, coffee, ground chuck, milk, bread, all the basics.

prices on these items do not go up as quickly as wages do.

your talking point is demonstrably false and you should stop repeating it if you do not wish to be classified as an idiot (although admittedly, that ship has long sailed).

inb4 a rape comparison is made.

The bureau of labor and statistics = the ministry of propaganda and misinformation. Ignoring millions of unemployed as if they didn't exist can make figures appear the way they want them, you're not really that dumb are you? Placing your faith in them for other stuff might not get you to heaven there Jerry Falwell.


Why don't you tell me how you did on the ASVAB again General Delusion ? Were you the favored cabin boy on the good ship Bad Man?
 

Rob Roy

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I like you Rob Roy, you are special, and I like special people. I used to work with retarded children in high school as part of my extra studies, which I was able to put on my application to schools. So I thank you from the bottom of my heart for being so very special.

I'm in meetings all day today, but if I can remember to respond to this, I will. Look for me to pick apart everything you just said. I like that you are so very special.
Thanks for working with people. I've done some volunteering to help people too. After you wipe your chin, please do start picking away, but please be careful where you wipe your hands.

Right now, I'm sitting here saying thanks to Obama for being the leader of the free world and being my lord and savior. How come his gang has the most people in prison if they are so free?
 

Harrekin

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I highly doubt those figures , on top of your figures being plucked from thin air your leaving out the economic stimulus factor of people having money to fuel the economy .
You doubt the figures?

I showed how I worked it out and clearly stated the welfare budget for both State and Federal for fiscal year 2015 is just shy of 500 billion.

5.8trill is over 10x 500 bill.

If only lefties could do math...
 

see4

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Thanks for working with people. I've done some volunteering to help people too. After you wipe your chin, please do start picking away, but please be careful where you wipe your hands.

Right now, I'm sitting here saying thanks to Obama for being the leader of the free world and being my lord and savior. How come his gang has the most people in prison if they are so free?
Separation of church and state. I guess not everyone thinks that way.
 

TheHermit

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Unfortunately for your argument, statistics show otherwise. So does common sense.

If people receiving free money, let's use unemployment distributions as an example, were to not want to hold down a job, then can you explain to me why the unemployment rate is lower now than it was 5 years ago? Can you explain to me why all these people who were receiving free money are now holding down jobs?

Do you think $1,500 a month is a enough to survive? For those who can survive on that, will not work. For those who can't, will work, and continue to do so.
Unemployment is a temporary benefit. The economy is much better today than it was five years ago. I could live off of 1500 a month. There are plenty of people out there living off of much less. I would want more than that lifestyle would afford though, so I would continue to work as long as it was worthwhile for me.
 

see4

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Unemployment is a temporary benefit. The economy is much better today than it was five years ago. I could live off of 1500 a month. There are plenty of people out there living off of much less. I would want more than that lifestyle would afford though, so I would continue to work as long as it was worthwhile for me.
Yes. I agree. Most reasonable people would do the same.
 

Red1966

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So prices never rise in response to more available income of buyers? Is that what you are saying...Really?

Let's throw in scarcity to the equation too. Scarcity can arise by government regulation creating scarcity or in a free market thru market driven demand or actual scarcity of a given product or service.

Actually don't bother responding, you're out of your league.

I'll just smoke this fattie and watch the birdfeeder...oh look we're almost out of food, those little fuckers are competing hard for it now. I bet the price of bird food amongst the birds in their little bird microcosm economy will have risen now.
God damn squirrels fuck up all the little bird economic models
 

Red1966

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I highly doubt those figures , on top of your figures being plucked from thin air your leaving out the economic stimulus factor of people having money to fuel the economy .
You're forgetting that's not new money, it's just one persons money being transferred to someone else to spend. The only way there would be a net gain is if, instead of taxing Peter to pay Paul, you funded the UBI by printing new money.
 

Red1966

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You doubt the figures?

I showed how I worked it out and clearly stated the welfare budget for both State and Federal for fiscal year 2015 is just shy of 500 billion.

5.8trill is over 10x 500 bill.

If only lefties could do math...
If they could do math, they wouldn't be lefties
 

UncleBuck

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The bureau of labor and statistics = the ministry of propaganda and misinformation.
no.

i can go to the store and see what the price of eggs is, and compare it to what the BLS says. so can you. i can even do it for you. just give me your general area and i will find the safeway there and online shop to verify prices.

kkkynes tried to write off the BLS as inaccurate as well and i have a series of screenshots that proved him to be 100% wrong, just as you are.

everything you say is bullshit.

inb4 a rape comparison is made.
 

UncleBuck

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You doubt the figures?

I showed how I worked it out and clearly stated the welfare budget for both State and Federal for fiscal year 2015 is just shy of 500 billion.

5.8trill is over 10x 500 bill.

If only lefties could do math...
you forgot to add in all the other assistance programs, including SS, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, heating assistance, child care, and so on and so forth.

it's not that lefties can;t do math, it is that you are 4'11'' and mentally retarded.
 
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