There is no pipeline, schools ARE Prisons

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Do you always blow on it before you swallow it?
 
Attention span is fine good sir, I managed to make it through all your blathering. :clap:

As for what you just said; these are your opinions. And that's all they are. Nothing substantiated here. Moving along.


In this instance its not my opinion. An opinion would be my saying chocolate ice cream is the best kind.

A fact would be something that circumstances can provide evidence of the veracity. It is a FACT that government schools are coercively funded. Can you offer facts to rebute that? No, you can't.
 
who is forcing all these rich people to move to high property tax areas?

who is forcing anyone to move to any area where there is a school district?

Your questions do not address the basic question of how a property can be both owned by somebody, yet held as part of a lien / ransom scheme by somebody else that doesn't own it who never entered into a consensual agreement with the ostensible owner of the property to place an automatic lien on it.

Your default is a contradiction. It assumes a nonowner can dictate an automatic lien without the express permission of the owner.

That only seems to happen when government is involved. If you or I did this...wouldn't it be extortion / a form of theft?
 
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Homeschooled children on average score 30-40% better on standardized tests than their public schooled counterparts.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/30/home-schooling-outstanding-results-national-tests/

The most amazing thing about homeschooled children is the fact they are taught by rank amateurs with no experience and no teaching certificate.
Yes, its true, home schooled children children when given a structured curriculum do better than public school children in standardized tests. This factoid is interesting but you seem to stop with the conservative idea that public schools are bad.

Class size and a dedicated educator has a lot to do with it. Children of single parents or working couples are left out of the home school option. Better funding for public schools, smaller class sizes and higher pay to increase teacher retention might be a better solution than to insist on home schooling.

Alternatively....Every year, fewer children are living in nuclear families where only one paycheck is enough (without public assistance, that is) to make ends meet with a life style that is acceptable. Would mister undrama be willing to fund the teachers of these home schooled children?

An article by Ryan Calhoun.

Deal with it....

We are told there is a pipeline in the United States that travels from our school system to our criminal justice system. Correct as the data corroborating the pipeline’s existence may be, it is a flawed way of conceptualizing the issue. There is no pipeline out of schools and into prisons, because schools and prisons in this country are not conceptually separable. (emphasis added)...

@Rob Roy quoted a diatribe from a site that is currently down and asking for money. Not difficult to understand why. After all, the person he most often quotes was last seen living in an RV and making a living by selling rope sandals at Rainbow Gatherings. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, its just that neither source of information is very inspirational. Neither is his life style -- he depends on the use of a neighbor's refrigerator (who's on the grid) because his home-made solar power grid won't support it. Its a life in poverty that Rob and the idiot asking for money to "buy RAM" are advocating for.

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Yes, its true, home schooled children children when given a structured curriculum do better than public school children in standardized tests. This factoid is interesting but you seem to stop with the conservative idea that public schools are bad.

Class size and a dedicated educator has a lot to do with it. Children of single parents or working couples are left out of the home school option. Better funding for public schools, smaller class sizes and higher pay to increase teacher retention might be a better solution than to insist on home schooling.

Alternatively....Every year, fewer children are live in nuclear families where only one paycheck is enough (without public assistance, that is) to make ends meet with a life style that is acceptable. Would mister undrama be willing to fund the teachers of these home schooled children?



@Rob Roy quoted a diatribe from a site that is currently down and asking for money. Not difficult to understand why. After all, the person he most often quotes was last seen living in an RV and making a living by selling rope sandals at Rainbow Gatherings. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, its just that I don't find either sources of information very inspirational. Neither is his life style -- he depends on the use of a neighbor's refrigerator (who's on the grid) because his home-made solar power grid won't support it. Its a life in poverty that Rob and the idiot asking for money to "buy RAM" are advocating for.

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Yet you still haven't addressed why if government schools are so good, they have to use threats to fund them.



Rope Sandals? Oh my! I prefer more comfortable shoes.

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Yet you still haven't addressed why if government schools are so good, they have to use threats to fund them.



Rope Sandals? Oh my! I prefer more comfortable shoes.

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I know, right, rope sandals...

Nobody threatens me to fund public schools. Why do you ask?
 
Rob, your fantasies...yuck. And you wonder why I say STFU to you?

What does this have to do with funding public schools? I went to school, had a great time, got a good education, am doing quite well. I give back to my community in part through paying property taxes, which I guess that you are so impoverished that you struggle with. I'm sorry that it didn't work out for you but that's your problem.
 
In this instance its not my opinion. An opinion would be my saying chocolate ice cream is the best kind.

A fact would be something that circumstances can provide evidence of the veracity. It is a FACT that government schools are coercively funded. Can you offer facts to rebute that? No, you can't.

Can you offer facts that support your statement? No, you can't, only conspiracy speculation.
 
Can you offer facts that support your statement? No, you can't, only conspiracy speculation.


Yes. It's a fact that a person who owns property can be billed for a "service" which they did not order and do not use. Along with this bill, is an understanding that if the (tax) bill is not paid, the person billed will be dispossessed of their property and physically harmed, killed or jailed if they resist.

So, I've answered your question sir and once again you've come up short, big fella.
 
Nuh uh, no you poopy head. I said it first, no takes backs.

Saying silly things is fun sometimes, don't you ever tire from doing it ALL the time?

Sometimes when I'm really tired I fall asleep in a chair and snore. It'll happen to you someday too little puppy.
 
Rob, your fantasies...yuck. And you wonder why I say STFU to you?

What does this have to do with funding public schools? I went to school, had a great time, got a good education, am doing quite well. I give back to my community in part through paying property taxes, which I guess that you are so impoverished that you struggle with. I'm sorry that it didn't work out for you but that's your problem.

You use the term "giving" inaccurately. If a person "gives" something, it implies it is a voluntary action and not a response to an extortion threat.

Even if YOU willingly drop to your knees, that doesn't mean everyone else agrees with the method of funding.

What if a grocery store was funded in the same way a government school is? What if they got their money whether you shop there or not...would that be a reasonable way to treat a "customer" ? Is there any incentive to perform if your customer is also a captive?

Put your "good education" to work and answer my questions.

If government schools are so good why do they rely on threats to fund them?
 
You use the term "giving" inaccurately. If a person "gives" something, it implies it is a voluntary action and not a response to an extortion threat.

Even if YOU willingly drop to your knees, that doesn't mean everyone else agrees with the method of funding.

What if a grocery store was funded in the same way a government school is? What if they got their money whether you shop there or not...would that be a reasonable way to treat a "customer" ? Is there any incentive to perform if your customer is also a captive?

Put your "good education" to work and answer my questions.

If government schools are so good why do they rely on threats to fund them?
Its an interesting idea you put forth regarding the grocery store. I think it was already tried and didn't work out very well. Anarcho Capitalism is just another idealistic dogma that ignores human behavior as did Leninist Communism. Only in your case, you'd let the pedophiles and racists have free rein. No wonder you have such fear of rapists. Under your dogma, you'd have to take the asshole on by yourself. I have a system of laws and enforcement at my disposal.

I'm a part of a community. Some of our needs are met via free trade and others are not like roads and schools. I have a vote on those items. I can move to another area of country if I like. I'm doing quite well and can choose where I live. As in any community, there is give and take. I do both.

Its too late for you. You have already frittered away your life and are facing a bleak future as an old man living in poverty. Too bad for you. You are too poor to move and besides, nobody wants you. Not even communities that best fit your dogma, like Somalia and Afghanistan.
 
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Yes. It's a fact that a person who owns property can be billed for a "service" which they did not order and do not use. Along with this bill, is an understanding that if the (tax) bill is not paid, the person billed will be dispossessed of their property and physically harmed, killed or jailed if they resist.

So, I've answered your question sir and once again you've come up short, big fella.

I own some land outside of city and town limits, there are no utilities on the land and there is no "paved" road leading up to that land. I do not pay taxes on said land. Well, very very little. Which I then write off the following year.

If the land I own is within town or city limits, and utilities are on, around, or under my land, I justifiably need to pay taxes on that land. You are part of a community, if you wish to not participate in said community, you are more than welcome to purchase land nowhere near a community and avoid taxation.

Your false equivalency and your pedantic approach to the nonsense you espouse is humorous. Your thick skull is clearly too cumbersome for your tiny brain, even the simplest of concepts is very hard for you to grasp. But nice try.
 
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