Study: Hillary Clinton’s TV ads were almost entirely policy-free

tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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She still won by 3 million votes.


She lost 3 key states by very narrow margins. The general polls consensus said 3% lead, she won by 2.1% well within the margin of error. 53.9% did not vote for Trump.

So I don't understand all the analysis about why she lost. It was 100,000 votes in 3 key states with a lot of voters buying into lies about jobs.

It was a goddamn fluke, and there's a lot of buyer's remorse going on right now.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
so you don't think that those issues are what democrats in congress, governor's chairs, state legislatures, and the like are fighting for?

are you literally blind?
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Look Man, the fucking Democrats can't even muster up a credible fight against an Attorney General who perjured himself to Congress.

I'd love to see that list list championed by someone willing to give it more than lip service... before swallowing.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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tangerinegreen555 said:
She still won by 3 million votes.


She lost 3 key states by very narrow margins. The general polls consensus said 3% lead, she won by 2.1% well within the margin of error. 53.9% did not vote for Trump.

So I don't understand all the analysis about why she lost. It was 100,000 votes in 3 key states with a lot of voters buying into lies about jobs.

It was a goddamn fluke, and there's a lot of buyer's remorse going on right now.
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True.

Let's see if the party establishment learned a damned thing.

My money is on 'no'. Anyone want to take my bet?
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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ttystikk said:
True.

Let's see if the party establishment learned a damned thing.

My money is on 'no'. Anyone want to take my bet?
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I'll bet you $5 that virtually anyone will beat Trump in 2020.

He will never have a high approval rating. Too stupid to shut the fuck up and stay off twitter.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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tangerinegreen555 said:
I'll bet you $5 that virtually anyone will beat Trump in 2020.

He will never have a high approval rating. Too stupid to shut the fuck up and stay off twitter.
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LOL I won't take that bet for a quarter!

And it isn't the one I proposed, either.

I fervently hope you're right, but I'm not confident in the American voter's ability to vote for their own best interest anymore.
 
UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Did you?

Tell us how much difference it made, while you're up there on your high horse.
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i sure did.

would have made more of a difference if even devout liberals wouldn't have thought that contacting your senators is a high-horse dickhole type of move.
 
Fogdog

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UncleBuck said:
*raising minimum wage
*ensuring women have access to healthcare, birth control, legal abortion
*common sense gun control, universal background checks
*maintaining wall street reform
*rebuilding infrastructure
*making access to health care and insurance easier for more
*codifying civil rights for LGBTQ people
*sane, steady foreign policy
*creating millions of jobs in renewable energy, retraining workers
*better access to higher education, student loan reform
*a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers
*continued funding for climate science research
*continued, steady lowering of the deficit until a surplus is achieved
*continuing the hands off approach to cannabis decisions by states
*getting lead out of people's water
*education, prevention, and mitigation of the ZIKA virus
*not being retarded, like you are, about the inevitability of globalization
*actually speaking out against anti-semitism and xenophobia
*a push towards paid maternal and paternal leave
*education reform policies that are actually effective
*greater access to child care for working parents

i could keep going but you really aren't worth it. you're not even worth this much. unless i list "stop the unfair persecution of men and let us have sexual choice!" you won't even care anyway.
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I replied so that I can like this post a second time.
 
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fdd2blk

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UncleBuck said:
i sure did.

would have made more of a difference if even devout liberals wouldn't have thought that contacting your senators is a high-horse dickhole type of move.
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Your whole existence is a waste of time. You know what to do. Grow a pair and just do it.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
i sure did.

would have made more of a difference if even devout liberals wouldn't have thought that contacting your senators is a high-horse dickhole type of move.
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I'm not denigrating your participation, only your attitude about it.

The problem is that they aren't listening to us, we don't pay well enough.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
listening requires a voice there to be heard.
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I don't think I'm alone when I say I just don't think they care.

That might be a pessimistic attitude, but it's time to acknowledge that when a party is no longer trusted by the people it purports to represent, silence is the result.

I'm going to join a socialist movement. The Democratic Party needs to earn my vote and attention, I'm under no obligation to give them.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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ttystikk said:
LOL I won't take that bet for a quarter!

And it isn't the one I proposed, either.

I fervently hope you're right, but I'm not confident in the American voter's ability to vote for their own best interest anymore.
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No, but the target is the 2020 election. Which will be easier with an asshole incumbent.

Hillary wasn't the greatest speaker I ever heard and she still won by 3 million.

This is no time to give up the ship. All the pressure is on them and they aren't handling it very well, are they?
 
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