The Final Days of the Trump Administration.

Fogdog

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yeah.....but the democrats aren't a lot better....they all disappoint the old man who used to be a boy who thought JFK was Matt Dillon....the rustlers have the badges now, and the villains are in charge
I don't understand why people continue to say this in light of everything that happened over the past couple of years.

I guess the effect of right wing propaganda lingers on in spite of facts.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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i don't trust ANY politician, no matter what party, until i have a chance to look at their voting record, and see who they've been taking contributions from.....and i usually don't think much more of them once i've done that.
most people seeking office are suspect to begin with, in my opinion. do they want to make a change for the better,or do they want to get into a position to further their on purposes? if you get a good person into office, they're going to be bombarded with lobbyist, all offering cash for favors.....how many will resist them? if they do resist them, do you think any of their colleagues, who haven't resisted, will support one thing they're trying to do?....Washington was built on a swamp, and it's turned into a septic tank......
 

Fogdog

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i don't trust ANY politician, no matter what party, until i have a chance to look at their voting record, and see who they've been taking contributions from.....and i usually don't think much more of them once i've done that.
most people seeking office are suspect to begin with, in my opinion. do they want to make a change for the better,or do they want to get into a position to further their on purposes? if you get a good person into office, they're going to be bombarded with lobbyist, all offering cash for favors.....how many will resist them? if they do resist them, do you think any of their colleagues, who haven't resisted, will support one thing they're trying to do?....Washington was built on a swamp, and it's turned into a septic tank......
It is naive to say that Republicans are the same as Democrats.

As I've said before, I reject your cynicism. There is nothing wrong with being skeptical of any one politician or any particular bill or legislation and I agree that some Democrats are probably no better than most Republicans. But my god, man. Really? The entire cast of Democratic legislators are about same as Republicans? Have you really looked at Democrat vs Republican voting records? I'll bet you haven't.

If you are able to recount all the crappy things that Republicans have done over the first few months to the past two years of Republican rule and compare what happened during the paltry 7 1/2 weeks Democrats controlled all three legislative bodies, an honest person would have to say there is a big difference.
 

Vd22

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...... If I were pumping gas into your smoke alarm on wheels, I'd spill gas on it too. Shitty people have shitty things done to them.

...... How many times has an aide just let you fall in the past week? Your shitty treatment of people never ends. But you get yours.
so you're saying shoeless mexican children are getting what they deserve? Mexicans are getting what they deserve? Damn i knew you guys were trippy with your thoughts lol
 

Fogdog

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so you're saying shoeless mexican children are getting what they deserve? Mexicans are getting what they deserve? Damn i knew you guys were trippy with your thoughts lol
Do you make up your own meaning in farts too? I'm sending one your way right now.

Regarding the post you responded too, what are you saying those Mexican children did to deserve what Trump's goons did to them?

More white tears. You care soooo much for those children, don't you?
 
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Vd22

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No substance.
You guys are so shit, hahaha.
Your logic used against you and you're all dumbfounded.
 

Unclebaldrick

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No substance.
You guys are so shit, hahaha.
Your logic used against you and you're all dumbfounded.
Ah, so you are one of those. A person who is so intellectually impaired you think you understand logic - a proverbial chess playing pigeon.

Keep telling yourself that you used their logic against them. Keep telling us how only your arguments have "substance". We need our laughs. Rob Roy and Buddha-bitchboy are growing tired. Schuylaar is gone. Tty has tucked tail and gone back to rehabilitate his tattered cultivation rep, Padawan has made himself scarce, we are recruiting for new comic relief and you are very much in the running.

Please keep posting.
 

UncleBuck

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Confirmation Bias is running rampant up in this political thread.
Do you feel sad that your hero trump is so hated?

I mean, following up the biggest midterm loss in American history with being named as “individual 1”, an unindicted co conspirator in a federal felony, those are two tough pills to swallow back to back

You know what might cheer you up? A sticker for the back window of your truck instructing people not to tread on you
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It is naive to say that Republicans are the same as Democrats.

As I've said before, I reject your cynicism. There is nothing wrong with being skeptical of any one politician or any particular bill or legislation and I agree that some Democrats are probably no better than most Republicans. But my god, man. Really? The entire cast of Democratic legislators are about same as Republicans? Have you really looked at Democrat vs Republican voting records? I'll bet you haven't.

If you are able to recount all the crappy things that Republicans have done over the first few months to the past two years of Republican rule and compare what happened during the paltry 7 1/2 weeks Democrats controlled all three legislative bodies, an honest person would have to say there is a big difference.
no, i haven't looked at everyone's voting record. i have a hard enough time keeping up with politicians in my area and the freakshows that runs for president every four years.
you can reject my cynicism all you want to, not going to change a thing in the world for me. i am a cynic. the world has given me plenty of reason to be. i don't trust any of them, especially the ones that just got into office. i'm not a democracy, and they're all guilty till they prove themselves innocent to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States#Executive_Branch_2

while there does seem to be more Rs than Ds...there are still plenty of Ds....
saying whether a scorpion sting is better than a snake bite is a matter of which one is the larger danger at the moment....
 

abalonehx

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I don't trust politicians in general either, yet... no, man the Republican party is so evil and toxic today it is disgusting. What they have adopted is a far right conspiracy theory driven angry bigoted crowd of people with no regard for factual information. It's beyond political ideological differences now. It's in the area of fascism now. This party, this President, and the people backing him are like a Cult. Fuck that. Voting Democrat is by far the lesser of two evils and the only way to bring some fucking sanity back.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Do you feel sad that your hero trump is so hated?

I mean, following up the biggest midterm loss in American history with being named as “individual 1”, an unindicted co conspirator in a federal felony, those are two tough pills to swallow back to back

You know what might cheer you up? A sticker for the back window of your truck instructing people not to tread on you
Shinzo Abe congratulated Trump on his mid-term victory. Jesus. Maybe if you nuke a country you pretty much turn them into obsequious suck-ups. I like to think it was some very subtle sarcasm.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I don't trust politicians in general either, yet... no, man the Republican party is so evil and toxic today it is disgusting. What they have adopted is a far right conspiracy theory driven angry bigoted crowd of people with no regard for factual information. It's beyond political ideological differences now. It's in the area of fascism now. This party, this President, and the people backing him are like a Cult. Fuck that. Voting Democrat is by far the lesser of two evils and the only way to bring some fucking sanity back.
i don't deny that....but you said it...the lesser of two evil......
democrat.jpgrepublican.jpg
 

Fogdog

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no, i haven't looked at everyone's voting record. i have a hard enough time keeping up with politicians in my area and the freakshows that runs for president every four years.
you can reject my cynicism all you want to, not going to change a thing in the world for me. i am a cynic. the world has given me plenty of reason to be. i don't trust any of them, especially the ones that just got into office. i'm not a democracy, and they're all guilty till they prove themselves innocent to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States#Executive_Branch_2

while there does seem to be more Rs than Ds...there are still plenty of Ds....
saying whether a scorpion sting is better than a snake bite is a matter of which one is the larger danger at the moment....
Cynicism isn't the same as skepticism. Sure, be skeptical when you listen to a politician make promises. A skeptic looks at the objective facts. Objective facts show there are plenty of differences between Republicans and Democrats. I'm not even talking about corruption. I'm talking about differences between policy and actions taken by liberal and right wing US legislators. I'm talking about verifiable, objective facts and not belief.

A cynic just believes in bad intentions, conspiracies, "they are out to get me", regardless of the facts. Therein lies the difference and why your cynicism is a tool of the radical right. You realize that the cynical belief that there is no difference is between Republicans and Democrats discourages people from voting, don't you? Ask who benefits when that happens.
 
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