Girl Scout Clones (GsC2)

[rkymtnman]

2 sprays about 12hrs apart seem to fix a Mg deficiency.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

So i sprayed the clones twice with epsom salt but they still wilted and 3 of them died. I was able to transplant one into soil and its doing ok but went and got 4 more clones and im trying again, this time doing a couple things different.

Last time i had gave my friend the clone machine to use and didnt clean it properly when i got it back and the sprayers and filter got all gummed up and wasnt spraying right.so this round i cleaned the cloner with bleach water. And ran it through the pump and sprayers for 2 hours then with water for another 2 hours before i made my solution.

this time i added calmag but used less nutrients altogether, a little less than half of whats recommended.

Its been kinda cold so i decided warm up the room by using my l.e.d. and the plants seem to be responding well.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

day 2, the clones perked back up after drooping a little the first night.decided not to spray them with water so much this round,but i am spraying the dome over them to keep humidity up.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

day 3 and these clones are already starting to make roots, i took them from lower on the plant this time and got softer less woody stems.

 

[Coloradoclear]

Are you all serious? Why would you give nutrients to a cutting that doesn't have roots? First question, do you have good quality water? If not, use spring water from the grocery store. The only thing you need to add to a cloner is a little clonex. Water temperature in your cloner should be around 78 degrees. Check it. If not, add a cheap aquarium heater. If it is over 78, find a cooler spot or more ventilation. Stop spraying your leaves, your encouraging powder mildew. Florescent light is best for clones and it doesn't have to be super bright.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

First question, do you have good quality water?.

i have a reverse osmosis filter, my water ends up at about 20ppm. Ive never used clonex, only a very weak nutrient solution i aim for about 300ppm max.water temp stays about 72-75. Ive stopped spraying them after the first day, only spraying the dome. I had a bright white led on it but i thought that was a little overkill with the big l.e.d. on as well.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

just did a little research, i dont know but seems like clonex is some nasty shit.its bad enough that im using these harsh chemical fertilizers let alone a carcinogenic mutagen. Wish i didnt have to use any of this crap at all really, but its the only method ive had any kind of luck at.i saw a video where a guy uses aloe vera and rockwool cubes, im probably going to try that.

now that i think about it, my friend used clonex in my cloner and thats probably what got it all gummed up and crap and caused it to not spray right.never had that problem with mild nute solutions.

 

[Blent]

Ive never used clonex, only a very weak nutrient solution i aim for about 300ppm max..

300ppm will kill a clone mate. Nutes are pointless if there aren't roots. You need to give the cutting hormones that stimulates root development.

 

[Blent]

just did a little research,View attachment 4246603 i dont know but seems like clonex is some nasty shit.

So is the dust that comes from your car brakes... There are alternatives to rooting hormones like you say, aloe even a good honey can root your cuttings. If you don't want anything synthetic then you might have to look into organic growing because I bet your nutes aren't much better.

 

[CoB_nUt]

Tap water roots just fine in aerocloners. Nothing else needed outside of high humidity.As stated previously, you don't need bpvery much light. You don't want them trying to photosynthesize as opposed to rooting. If you are using the light for heat, hang it high.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

Tap water roots just fine in aerocloners. Nothing else needed outside of high humidity.As stated previously, you don't need bpvery much light. You don't want them trying to photosynthesize as opposed to rooting. If you are using the light for heat, hang it high.

ive tried just using water before but not much luck. My tap water comes out about 200ppm though, probably comparible to my weak nute solution? ive never needed any cloning gel either and i do have the light all the way at the top of the room.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

So is the dust that comes from your car brakes... There are alternatives to rooting hormones like you say, aloe even a good honey can root your cuttings. If you don't want anything synthetic then you might have to look into organic growing because I bet your nutes aren't much better.

i am starting an organic grow with soil. Getting away from chemicals altogether.now i just have to perfect an organic cloning technique.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

300ppm will kill a clone mate. Nutes are pointless if there aren't roots. You need to give the cutting hormones that stimulates root development.

ill take some pics of the roots when they get big enough to photo and ill show you it works.they still have capillary action and soak up water/nutrients right?

 

[CoB_nUt]

ive tried just using water before but not much luck. My tap water comes out about 200ppm though, probably comparible to my weak nute solution? ive never needed any cloning gel either and i do have the light all the way at the top of the room.

Gotcha. My tap comes out @220 7.5ish mainly cal with some mag in it according to my water report. I guess have good aerocloning conditions. I see a lot of people having issues with it. Humidty and water temp are factors in aero cloning IME.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

Gotcha. My tap comes out @220 7.5ish mainly cal with some mag in it according to my water report. I guess have good aerocloning conditions. I see a lot of people having issues with it. Humidty and water temp are factors in aero cloning IME.

yea, right now im having a hard time keeping the humidity up because the air is so dry, like 30%.

 

[CoB_nUt]

i am starting an organic grow with soil. Getting away from chemicals altogether.now i just have to perfect an organic cloning technique.

Take more clones than you need and try a few different methods. Peat pellets/jiffy plugs work, I stuck an extra monstercropped clone in some leftover soiless media(perlite and calcinined clay) around the same time I filled up my aerocloner, watered it every now and then when I remembered. It's rooted, not nearly as mich as the ones in the cloner, but it's rooted well. They are all getting binned tho as I don't need them just experimenting with rooting times They rooted under the flowering regimen 10/14 in the shade.

 

[CoB_nUt]

yea, right now im having a hard time keeping the humidity up because the air is so dry, like 30%.

^^^This is your issue. You need that humidty for vpd reasons, to keep the clone healthy enuff to try to root. I'm not a fan of domes because I don't like hardening off my clones to the environment they will naturally be in. But a dome may help you.

 

[CoB_nUt]

Quick n cheap humidifier. Get a bowl/bucket with some water in it, grab a towel and lay one end in it, have a fan vlowing across the towel. It'll help.

 

[kushdaddy1980]

^^^This is your issue. You need that humidty for vpd reasons, to keep the clone healthy enuff to try to root. I'm not a fan of domes because I don't like hardening off my clones to the environment they will naturally be in. But a dome may help you.

i have a dome on them i just take it off for pics. Usually i can keep it up around 90-100% but lately its hard to keep it at 80%

 

[CoB_nUt]

Ahh ok. My bad.