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UncleBuck

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Honestly have you read the report ? It really seems like you have not.
@Bugeye , you are aware that the whole investigation into trump's obvious and proven russia collusion started when papadopolous drunkenly bragged to another country's intelligence officials that trump was in bed with the russians, right?

not that it wasn't obvious since 2013/2014

 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
@Bugeye , you are aware that the whole investigation into trump's obvious and proven russia collusion started when papadopolous drunkenly bragged to another country's intelligence officials that trump was in bed with the russians, right?

not that it wasn't obvious since 2013/2014

Now wait one doggone minute. Can you prove that Trump was really in that photo? Did you have a legal FISA warrant when you posted that? Was it really legal?

see how easy that is?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
But he IS president and there was no underlying crime found. Sorry, that changes everything. At least in Watergate there was an underlying crime. The correct remedy at this point is to vote Trump out of office for his despicable behavior.
All it changes is the perception that politicians can get away with anything to the actual proof of same.
 

UncleBuck

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democrat leadership is failing it’s constituents
you spent years crying like a bitch about the deficit as obama brought it down by a trillion dollars and now you are rooting on conald as he spends like a drunken sailor.

worry about your corrupt, criminal, irredeemable party before you lecture us on ours you loser nazi.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Not just a nazi, a loser nazi. Now that is funny.
let's examine your previous post.

you, who celebrated alongside white supremacists on election night, are asking us to believe that not only do you want to see your hero impeached, but that you also care that democrats are doing everything their constituents want.

excuse me for not believing a thing you say. after i see you celebrating alongside white supremacists, i kinda find it hard to believe that you are genuinely interested in either of those things.

also, why is it that you develop amnesia whenever i list the obvious collusion that we all saw happen?

you should try posting without all the lying, bad faith, shamelessness, and hypocrisy ya nazi loser
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
But he IS president and there was no underlying crime found. Sorry, that changes everything. At least in Watergate there was an underlying crime. The correct remedy at this point is to vote Trump out of office for his despicable behavior.
Exactly. You right wing nuts come to every discussion like a guilty criminal trying to beat a rap now.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
But he IS president and there was no underlying crime found. Sorry, that changes everything. At least in Watergate there was an underlying crime. The correct remedy at this point is to vote Trump out of office for his despicable behavior.
there doesn't have to be an underlying crime to have obstruction of justice.. obstruction is a crime in and of itself..

the definition of obstruction..
Modern obstruction of justice, in United States jurisdictions, refers to the crime of offering interference of any sort to the work of police, investigators, regulatory agencies, prosecutors, or other (usually government) officials. Often, no actual investigation or substantiated suspicion of a specific incident need exist to support a charge of obstruction of justice. Common law jurisdictions other than the United States tend to use the wider offense of Perverting the course of justice.

firing comey in order to make an investigation go away is the very definition of obstruction, again, a crime in itself.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Well it is now clear to me that democrat leadership is failing it’s constituents by not bringing impeachment proceedings.
...and yet people here still wonder why I don't like, trust or respect the Democratic Party any more than the Republicans.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Oh you're one to call other people right wingers, Mr pot calling the kettle black!
No, I'm very much liberal left.

Your leftist-authoritarian leanings have dictatorial overtones and you do support brutal dictators. So be careful with the kettle -pot analogy.
 

TacoMac

Well-Known Member
there doesn't have to be an underlying crime to have obstruction of justice.
Correct. That's the rich man's interpretation of the law.

In the real world of we typical Americans, if a police officer ask you, "which way did they go?" and you intentionally mislead them by pointing in the wrong direction, you are guilty of obstruction even if no crime was ever committed.

In the event a crime was committed, you are guilty of obstruction and aiding and abetting.

This rich man's interpretation they've come up with doesn't hold water in front of a judge. The problem is that Democrats are too chicken shit to do what should be done.

They're more worried about failing and losing their political clout than doing their jobs.

But that's nothing new in Washington.
 
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