Bernie Sanders 2020

blu3bird

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I think michigan is easily going to trump this election
I don't know, I hope not. Michigan is a weird state, it could go either way

There's a lot of morons here, it's going to be hard to stomp them into the ground. Most of my friends are going to vote blue though and the few of them that aren't really interested in politics I've been trying to tell them how important it is to vote
 

hanimmal

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That’s funny, not what point it’s making, but I live in Michigan. I prefer not stepping over people just to walk a block. It’s nice Cali should try it. Don’t have to worry about rats resurrecting the Black Plague because the rats are feed of human waste harboring fleas that infect the population. Damn wouldn’t that be something to be proud of. First state to bring back a disease that wiped out over 200 million. Silly me, I was worried about covid.
California should just give all their homeless a ticket back to whatever rural community in the Red states that sent them to Cali in the first place.
Yeah Detroit looks like Heaven on Earth....
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White flight and redlining will do that to a city.

I can take a walk downtown without stepping over someone, stepping in human shit, and not worry about getting stuck with a needle. Plus it saves money when you don’t have to spend it on a hepatitis tests. What’s not to love? Oh your point of why people want to live in Cali would work if more people didn’t want to leave than those who want to move there. Pretty simple, keep telling yourself it’s all good!
Detroit has some nice spots, but pretending like we don't have our fair share of blight.

Your hilarious! I live on the west side of the state. RED!!! Detroit is on the east side of you don’t have a map handy.
Oh that explains it.

I don't know, I hope not. Michigan is a weird state, it could go either way

There's a lot of morons here, it's going to be hard to stomp them into the ground. Most of my friends are going to vote blue though and the few of them that aren't really interested in politics I've been trying to tell them how important it is to vote
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I hope the Democrats can pull off again what they did in 2018. It is too important to stop Trump from tearing us apart as a society for 4 more years.
 
I’m very sure who she is. She’s one of the leading advocates fighting to take away the rights to vape a flavored eliquid from Michiganders because she rushed to assume vitamin e acetate was in all eliquids instead of waiting for the truth that that shit was coming from black market thc pods. I had to buy tobacco flavored juice because I was banned from flavors while trying to distance myself from combustible tobacco, only to learn the next week I waisted my money and could now buy flavors. Even after that news came to light she still swore that she would fight to repeal the order from the judge. Another example of the left trying to control what we do. How can anyone around here be ok with that? Do you really want to be told what to do? Do you want Bloomberg to tell you how much soda you can drink and put police in minority communities because those are the only ones that commit crime? (Yes he is recorded saying that) Wake up people! I’m not saying the right is always right, but at least they don’t want to control every aspect of your lives. The right has moved to a much more libertarian position. What you do in your home is up to you. They may not agree with what you do, but I don’t agree with people that pick their nose constantly, doesn’t mean I hate them. I think taking it up from behind is disgusting, I don’t hate people that enjoy that kind of thing. Do what you want, it’s your home, unless you want to abolish personal property, a foundation of socialism. Why do you think the left is offering free schooling? They know that the left has been successful in brainwashing children to accept their ideology. Offering free college to everyone at the tax payers dime. Even if you paid your way or took a step back and said that’s not for me. Sorry, you made a wise decision in life and weighed the cost benefit, now pay for someone who didn’t, to waste your hard earned money because, “college should be tuition free”. Not everyone is meant for college, that’s ok! I grew up thinking if I didn’t go to college I would be worthless. So I did, I took enough credits to graduate 3 times, but I waffled in what degree I wanted and don’t have a degree. College wasn’t for me and it’s not for everyone. So give everyone free college, what happens to those that may not have the academic mindset? We’ll just send them anyways. What if they are more suited for a trade? There’s nothing wrong with that, hell, I think it’s admirable. Unfortunately they were promised a future and if they fail, they will feel worthless because without a degree you are worthless. (Not my opinion) Ever wonder why the left spends so much on education with no results? It’s because they promise to the teachers unions, not to the kids. Who contributes to the vote? Kids or teachers? Why should we advocate for open boarders and dangle the perks of citizenship in the face of foreigners? Because if we get enough people that don’t understand that free is never free they might vote for the party that gave them free shit! Not to mention, undocumented people aren’t even calculated into the cost of these plans, because the left won’t allow them to be a part of the census. How many more will come with the insensitives being offered? That’s not figured into the “plan” either. I don’t care what side your on, but if you think the government can count votes in Iowa, which they couldn’t, tell you how to live your life, tell you when you have made too much money after you put everything you have to become a success, or determine what is the best for you through big government then by all means, vote for a socialist. I however think you can be something more than just an equal if you have the wants and drive to do so. Life shouldn’t be based on a curve. Why would a lazy neighbor have the motivation to succeed when they can see you have drive? It’s socialism, what’s yours is mine.
Sorry to offend, but I could give a shit. This country could be headed in the direction of every other pos failed socialist experiment. Go ahead and pull the Nordic bs. I’ll leave a link to enlighten you on that because Forbes, not some right wing publication can say it better than me and I’m not down with using others work when I haven’t done it my self. Sound familiar? I welcome an example of a successful socialist country. That’s all I have. I’m sure by reading many of the treads around here that after 2 posts, dissolving into demeaning and degrading responses, that that’s what is headed my way. I just hope that you think about who’s best to run your lives. You or the government?

 
Go to Muskegon and run your mouth about Trump lol, I'll bet you end up picking your teeth up off the ground
I taught in Muskegon, nothing wrong with them and I never shied away from being myself. Good kids, why do they frighten you so much? Btw, still got all my pearly whites. Just a tip, take a detour if you see a sign for the heights, them folks are just a basket of deplorables!
 
I don't know, I hope not. Michigan is a weird state, it could go either way

There's a lot of morons here, it's going to be hard to stomp them into the ground. Most of my friends are going to vote blue though and the few of them that aren't really interested in politics I've been trying to tell them how important it is to vote
Sure stomp them into the ground! Just like liberal colleges. Fuck freedom of speech for the infidels. They don’t agree with us, why have a conversation? Just dig deep into your bag of toys and grab the ball gag. That’ll shut those smelly Walmart people up!
 

srh88

Well-Known Member
I’m very sure who she is. She’s one of the leading advocates fighting to take away the rights to vape a flavored eliquid from Michiganders because she rushed to assume vitamin e acetate was in all eliquids instead of waiting for the truth that that shit was coming from black market thc pods. I had to buy tobacco flavored juice because I was banned from flavors while trying to distance myself from combustible tobacco, only to learn the next week I waisted my money and could now buy flavors. Even after that news came to light she still swore that she would fight to repeal the order from the judge. Another example of the left trying to control what we do. How can anyone around here be ok with that? Do you really want to be told what to do? Do you want Bloomberg to tell you how much soda you can drink and put police in minority communities because those are the only ones that commit crime? (Yes he is recorded saying that) Wake up people! I’m not saying the right is always right, but at least they don’t want to control every aspect of your lives. The right has moved to a much more libertarian position. What you do in your home is up to you. They may not agree with what you do, but I don’t agree with people that pick their nose constantly, doesn’t mean I hate them. I think taking it up from behind is disgusting, I don’t hate people that enjoy that kind of thing. Do what you want, it’s your home, unless you want to abolish personal property, a foundation of socialism. Why do you think the left is offering free schooling? They know that the left has been successful in brainwashing children to accept their ideology. Offering free college to everyone at the tax payers dime. Even if you paid your way or took a step back and said that’s not for me. Sorry, you made a wise decision in life and weighed the cost benefit, now pay for someone who didn’t, to waste your hard earned money because, “college should be tuition free”. Not everyone is meant for college, that’s ok! I grew up thinking if I didn’t go to college I would be worthless. So I did, I took enough credits to graduate 3 times, but I waffled in what degree I wanted and don’t have a degree. College wasn’t for me and it’s not for everyone. So give everyone free college, what happens to those that may not have the academic mindset? We’ll just send them anyways. What if they are more suited for a trade? There’s nothing wrong with that, hell, I think it’s admirable. Unfortunately they were promised a future and if they fail, they will feel worthless because without a degree you are worthless. (Not my opinion) Ever wonder why the left spends so much on education with no results? It’s because they promise to the teachers unions, not to the kids. Who contributes to the vote? Kids or teachers? Why should we advocate for open boarders and dangle the perks of citizenship in the face of foreigners? Because if we get enough people that don’t understand that free is never free they might vote for the party that gave them free shit! Not to mention, undocumented people aren’t even calculated into the cost of these plans, because the left won’t allow them to be a part of the census. How many more will come with the insensitives being offered? That’s not figured into the “plan” either. I don’t care what side your on, but if you think the government can count votes in Iowa, which they couldn’t, tell you how to live your life, tell you when you have made too much money after you put everything you have to become a success, or determine what is the best for you through big government then by all means, vote for a socialist. I however think you can be something more than just an equal if you have the wants and drive to do so. Life shouldn’t be based on a curve. Why would a lazy neighbor have the motivation to succeed when they can see you have drive? It’s socialism, what’s yours is mine.
Sorry to offend, but I could give a shit. This country could be headed in the direction of every other pos failed socialist experiment. Go ahead and pull the Nordic bs. I’ll leave a link to enlighten you on that because Forbes, not some right wing publication can say it better than me and I’m not down with using others work when I haven’t done it my self. Sound familiar? I welcome an example of a successful socialist country. That’s all I have. I’m sure by reading many of the treads around here that after 2 posts, dissolving into demeaning and degrading responses, that that’s what is headed my way. I just hope that you think about who’s best to run your lives. You or the government?

Lol you dont like her because vaping?... not the roads or flint... vaping
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I’m very sure who she is. She’s one of the leading advocates fighting to take away the rights to vape a flavored eliquid from Michiganders because she rushed to assume vitamin e acetate was in all eliquids instead of waiting for the truth that that shit was coming from black market thc pods. I had to buy tobacco flavored juice because I was banned from flavors while trying to distance myself from combustible tobacco, only to learn the next week I waisted my money and could now buy flavors. Even after that news came to light she still swore that she would fight to repeal the order from the judge. Another example of the left trying to control what we do. How can anyone around here be ok with that? Do you really want to be told what to do? Do you want Bloomberg to tell you how much soda you can drink and put police in minority communities because those are the only ones that commit crime? (Yes he is recorded saying that) Wake up people! I’m not saying the right is always right, but at least they don’t want to control every aspect of your lives. The right has moved to a much more libertarian position. What you do in your home is up to you. They may not agree with what you do, but I don’t agree with people that pick their nose constantly, doesn’t mean I hate them. I think taking it up from behind is disgusting, I don’t hate people that enjoy that kind of thing. Do what you want, it’s your home, unless you want to abolish personal property, a foundation of socialism. Why do you think the left is offering free schooling? They know that the left has been successful in brainwashing children to accept their ideology. Offering free college to everyone at the tax payers dime. Even if you paid your way or took a step back and said that’s not for me. Sorry, you made a wise decision in life and weighed the cost benefit, now pay for someone who didn’t, to waste your hard earned money because, “college should be tuition free”. Not everyone is meant for college, that’s ok! I grew up thinking if I didn’t go to college I would be worthless. So I did, I took enough credits to graduate 3 times, but I waffled in what degree I wanted and don’t have a degree. College wasn’t for me and it’s not for everyone. So give everyone free college, what happens to those that may not have the academic mindset? We’ll just send them anyways. What if they are more suited for a trade? There’s nothing wrong with that, hell, I think it’s admirable. Unfortunately they were promised a future and if they fail, they will feel worthless because without a degree you are worthless. (Not my opinion) Ever wonder why the left spends so much on education with no results? It’s because they promise to the teachers unions, not to the kids. Who contributes to the vote? Kids or teachers? Why should we advocate for open boarders and dangle the perks of citizenship in the face of foreigners? Because if we get enough people that don’t understand that free is never free they might vote for the party that gave them free shit! Not to mention, undocumented people aren’t even calculated into the cost of these plans, because the left won’t allow them to be a part of the census. How many more will come with the insensitives being offered? That’s not figured into the “plan” either. I don’t care what side your on, but if you think the government can count votes in Iowa, which they couldn’t, tell you how to live your life, tell you when you have made too much money after you put everything you have to become a success, or determine what is the best for you through big government then by all means, vote for a socialist. I however think you can be something more than just an equal if you have the wants and drive to do so. Life shouldn’t be based on a curve. Why would a lazy neighbor have the motivation to succeed when they can see you have drive? It’s socialism, what’s yours is mine.
Sorry to offend, but I could give a shit. This country could be headed in the direction of every other pos failed socialist experiment. Go ahead and pull the Nordic bs. I’ll leave a link to enlighten you on that because Forbes, not some right wing publication can say it better than me and I’m not down with using others work when I haven’t done it my self. Sound familiar? I welcome an example of a successful socialist country. That’s all I have. I’m sure by reading many of the treads around here that after 2 posts, dissolving into demeaning and degrading responses, that that’s what is headed my way. I just hope that you think about who’s best to run your lives. You or the government?

I tried to get through that, I really did, but my eyes started going blurry.

I strongly suggest to quit listening to what the 'left' is doing from right wing sources, they are proven liars who have to argue in a court of law that it is ok for them to lie to you because they are not news, they are entertainers.

Anyone that tells you to only believe them is trying to be a cult leader.
 
I tried to get through that, I really did, but my eyes started going blurry.

I strongly suggest to quit listening to what the 'left' is doing from right wing sources, they are proven liars who have to argue in a court of law that it is ok for them to lie to you because they are not news, they are entertainers.


Anyone that tells you to only believe them is trying to be a cult leader.
I’m sorry about your eye condition. There’s a word for it but it slips my mind. Sorry I can’t help, glad you made it through. I watch msnbc, cnn, and fox. Podcasts, am radio, and apps as much as I can, when I can. Life comes at you in all directions, why not listen in 3D?
I watch Joe., Chuck, Rachel, O’Donnell, and gave I gave a solute to Chris upon his swift and questionable departure. I also watch Kate, Tapper, Wolf, Cuomo, and Don. Outnumbered, The five, Bret and Martha, Tucker, and Laura.
Please tell me who should enlighten me and who should be entertaining me. I’m really curious who you think does what. Should I not be listening to all sides and formulating my own opinion? Seems to jive with your advice.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I’m sorry about your eye condition. There’s a word for it but it slips my mind. Sorry I can’t help, glad you made it through. I watch msnbc, cnn, and fox. Podcasts, am radio, and apps as much as I can, when I can. Life comes at you in all directions, why not listen in 3D?
I watch Joe., Chuck, Rachel, O’Donnell, and gave I gave a solute to Chris upon his swift and questionable departure. I also watch Kate, Tapper, Wolf, Cuomo, and Don. Outnumbered, The five, Bret and Martha, Tucker, and Laura.
Please tell me who should enlighten me and who should be entertaining me. I’m really curious who you think does what. Should I not be listening to all sides and formulating my own opinion? Seems to jive with your advice.
Not so much an eye condition as the wall of text that early in the morning is not the easiest to read.

Good for you keeping up with the multiple outlets. After Shep left I pretty much just stick to CSPAN, and MSNBC for most of the daily stuff, I record all the Sunday shows and watch them to see what won the weeks top stories. CNN and FOX now for me just generally gets covered from what I have found on MSNBC since they tend to crap on everyone and will put-up any hit piece on anyone at anytime.

The trolls on this site give me the majority of what is going on from the left and right trolling. Online sources for news I try to stick to AP, Reuters, and I did a paid sub to Washington Post for the more in depth analysis, they keep it pretty strait mostly outside of some of the op-eds.

Most of the real information I trust I wait for a government report/transcript or public hearing, because people have been shown to lie in this administration if they are not sworn in.

Enjoy what you like, and nice job saying 'undocumented people' and not needing to dehumanize these people coming here to try to make a better life.
 
Lol you dont like her because vaping?... not the roads or flint... vaping
If Flint isn’t fixed by now, then what the f has our wonderful governor been doing? Holy shit! That started 6 years ago. I love that Democrat fortitude, they sure get shit done fast once they take over a crisis! Roads are the roads we have bc we live in a freeze and thaw climate. Water gets into the cracks in the road, freeze and expand causing the cracks to expand. That’s Michigan. If you live here you get it and if you travel south you get it even more. Roads are fixed by funding through local government, not the governor.

So both of those issues addressed, yes, I have smoked cigarettes since age 20. I found the miracle of vaping recently and a lot of the appeal to switch from cigarettes was made easy with a fruit flavor. I wasn’t coughing constantly and clearing my throat. I didn’t wreak like a chimney, I didn’t need to catch my breath after a walk, and my teeth were whiter. Then my governor told me I was doing something wrong. I wasn’t allowed to not smoke cigarettes if it was flavored. So all the work I put into to directing my fixation on tobacco needed a good taste of flavored tobacco, and if that ungodly flavor didn’t cut it, just smoke the damn cig! So let’s get the flint water thing fixed so we can demonize vaping and get our kids hooked on tar.

Your missing the point still.

Government is supposed to work for the people. Not control the people. Why is this so damn hard to understand? If this country sucks that bad, go to Venezuela, Iran, or N. Korea. No, seriously if you hate the flag, can’t respect vets, and think this country is full of racists, no one is stopping you! There is 194 other countries out there, but they don’t all have a basement with free room and board and WiFi, so you can just bitch about how bad you have it.
 
Not so much an eye condition as the wall of text that early in the morning is not the easiest to read.

Good for you keeping up with the multiple outlets. After Shep left I pretty much just stick to CSPAN, and MSNBC for most of the daily stuff, I record all the Sunday shows and watch them to see what won the weeks top stories. CNN and FOX now for me just generally gets covered from what I have found on MSNBC since they tend to crap on everyone and will put-up any hit piece on anyone at anytime.

The trolls on this site give me the majority of what is going on from the left and right trolling. Online sources for news I try to stick to AP, Reuters, and I did a paid sub to Washington Post for the more in depth analysis, they keep it pretty strait mostly outside of some of the op-eds.

Most of the real information I trust I wait for a government report/transcript or public hearing, because people have been shown to lie in this administration if they are not sworn in.

Enjoy what you like, and nice job saying 'undocumented people' and not needing to dehumanize these people coming here to try to make a better life.
I agree that humans are indeed that. Life is life no matter how small or what part of the world you come from. I also really respect your response, refreshing and mature. However, I can’t take props for my terminology. I phrased it that way on purpose as to not come across too confrontational because I’ve been conditioned to void actual us code language. Technically illegal alien is the correct term. We can soften it up and give it some fluff, but a term is a term. By saying undocumented immigrant, does that make someone being “utilized” by the drug cartels alone and abandoned in the desert feel better, or does it make you feel better?
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
If Flint isn’t fixed by now, then what the f has our wonderful governor been doing? Holy shit! That started 6 years ago. I love that Democrat fortitude, they sure get shit done fast once they take over a crisis! Roads are the roads we have bc we live in a freeze and thaw climate. Water gets into the cracks in the road, freeze and expand causing the cracks to expand. That’s Michigan. If you live here you get it and if you travel south you get it even more. Roads are fixed by funding through local government, not the governor.
Snyder just rerouted Detroit's water back to Flint, and now is looking like he might be deposed for what went on under his watch. And I am trying to not throw him under the bus, because mostly I think he did a solid job as governor. But I am curious if you're saying it is on the Democrats for it not being fixed in the year they have had the governorship.

Also we need to fix the gerrymandering to get much done in our state unfortunately. It is still a long road to social parity.
I agree that humans are indeed that. Life is life no matter how small or what part of the world you come from. I also really respect your response, refreshing and mature. However, I can’t take props for my terminology. I phrased it that way on purpose as to not come across too confrontational because I’ve been conditioned to void actual us code language. Technically illegal alien is the correct term. We can soften it up and give it some fluff, but a term is a term. By saying undocumented immigrant, does that make someone being “utilized” by the drug cartels alone and abandoned in the desert feel better, or does it make you feel better?
That was the term assigned when a racist administration took over. It is dehumanizing for a reason. Sending drugs over the border on the backs of humans is inefficient and not realistic.
 
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