Lockdowns don't work.

[Rob Roy]

Bad Snatch will fuck you up!

Olympic speaking.

If it's bad snatch, it might be safer to clean and jerk.

 

[hanimmal]

69 here and my shoulders are paying for heavy benching with small frame. RA don’t help. Seriously question the value of that exercise now, not alone on that..

My body is busted up from years of wrestling and playing football. I really wish the teacher that convinced me to start wrestling would have gotten me into math club or something at this point in my life. It was awesome in high school and college, but I am feeling it now.

edit: damnit! I didn't know what thread I was posting in lol.

 

[Fogdog]

I am not trying to pile on or anything, but I was curious because you listed names so I looked at a couple. The first was the Knut...

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I quit looking at him after this warning popped up from Rockefeller U.

The next guy was super legit after looking at his CV. So I looked at some of the things he said: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/opinions/bergen-osterholm-interview-two-opinion/index.html
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Doesn't seem like he is saying 'lockdowns don't work' to me.

It's typical of science deniers to find the few scientists who hold opinions that agree with theirs.



All they do is find the few voices that disagree with consensus and then magnify their voices. It's a mendacious argument.

 

[dandyrandy]

69 here and my shoulders are paying for heavy benching with small frame. RA don’t help. Seriously question the value of that exercise now, not alone on that..

I worked with a Mr Cincinnati who had his hips replaced at 28. Myself I've just not treated my joints well. Arthritis has set in my back and knees. Old age sucks.

 

[Rob Roy]

It's typical of science deniers to find the few scientists who hold opinions that agree with theirs.

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All they do is find the few voices that disagree with consensus and then magnify their voices. It's a mendacious argument.

Conversely a majority of people ignore the "science" behind the idea that it's impossible to;

A) Delegate a right which you don't possess

B) Create an institution made up of people that first use offensive force in order to protect you from people who might use offensive force

SCIENCE!!!

 

[UncleBuck]

Reported as spam

 

[CunningCanuk]

Just remember Bob, your rights won’t mean shit when you’re dead.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

It's typical of science deniers to find the few scientists who hold opinions that agree with theirs.

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All they do is find the few voices that disagree with consensus and then magnify their voices. It's a mendacious argument.

It doesn't matter if it is one out of a hundred or one out of all of them. The internet-fodder on both the left and right don't need much "evidence" to believe what they believe.

 

[Rob Roy]

Just remember Bob, your rights won’t mean shit when you’re dead.

If you're living your life hiding from a virus under your bed, clutching a mask like a binkie, you're already dead.

Lockdowns don't work on free people. If the lockdowns are persistent enough the unintended consequences the stupid overlords never consider will cause a lot of death and suffering too. Maybe more than the virus.

Have you even considered there may be "convenient emergency agendas" being used to control people (human livestock) ?

 

[UncleBuck]

I feel bad for mentally disturbed schizophrenics

 

[rkymtnman]

check this dude out @doublejj
hayabusa turbo

 

[schuylaar]

Most of the infections on the East Coast came from Europe, and is slowly spreading. Thats the reason for more deaths on the east coast. Scientists are also saying a more deadly, mutated version of the virus came from Europe

As states around the nation begin to relax their restrictions, the findings demonstrate that it is difficult, if not impossible, to prevent those actions from affecting the rest of the nation.

Geneticists have analyzed and shared more than 2,000 samples of the virus from infected people. As the virus infects new people and replicates, it picks up mutations along the way. These mutations typically do not change the behavior of the virus, but they can provide a signature of a virus’s origin.

Most samples taken in Texas, Ohio, Louisiana, Idaho, Wisconsin and many other states carry distinct mutations that can be traced back to viruses introduced into New York.

Over all, Dr. Grubaugh estimated, viruses spreading from New York account for 60 to 65 percent of the infections identified across the country.

Other scientists said that they would like to see more samples before calculating precise figures. But they agreed that New York’s prominence in seeding the national spread appears to have begun in early March, two weeks before stay-at-home orders were put in place.

“New York acted as the Grand Central Station for this virus, with the opportunity to move from there in so many directions, to so many places,” said David Engelthaler, head of the infectious disease branch of the Translational Genomics Research Institute in Arizona.

The most commonly detected viruses tied to New York have a distinct genetic signature linking them to outbreaks in Europe. Those spreading from Washington State have a signature linking them directly to China.

At this stage, scientists say, genetic fingerprints alone are not sufficient for pinpointing the source of the viruses. But travel patterns and case histories of early known cases support the idea, they said.

“It is a combination, still, of what genomic epidemiology and shoe-leather epidemiology is going to tell us,” Dr. Engelthaler said.

Scientists modeling the progression of the disease nationally said the prominence of New York as a national hub was broadly consistent with their findings, although the picture was still emerging.

“I would say this is not surprising in a sense,” said Alessandro Vespignani, director of the Network Science Institute at Northeastern University in Boston. “The picture emerging is consistent with numerical models.”

Earlier research by Dr. Vespignani showed just how rapidly, and invisibly, the outbreak exploded in New York. By March 1, when the first coronavirus case was confirmed in New York, the city probably had over 10,000 undetected infections, his research group showed.

New York and Washington State are not the only sources of the outbreak. Other large domestic hubs contributed to the spread, scientists believe, and a more diverse genetic mix is still seen in some places around the country, particularly in the Midwest and parts of the South.

Even as domestic travel began to drive the outbreak, some infections were still seeded around the country by international travelers, geneticists said. It is possible, experts said, that some of the virus samples attributed to New York may have instead been seeded in other cities by direct flights from Europe, or from travelers laying over in New York before traveling elsewhere.

For that reason, some scientists said they would like to see more samples before linking the majority of infections in the United States to New York.

“I think that’s probably the story line that’s going to emerge, but I’d like to see more data,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Mount Sinai in New York.




analysis of travel data supports the idea that the chains of infection originated in New York, experts said. The number of cases across the country was closely related to how many travelers each place received from New York in early March, based on anonymized cellphone tracking data from Cuebiq, a data intelligence company.

“It looks like most of the domestic spread is basically people traveling out from New York,” said Dr. Kari Stefansson, founder and chief executive of deCODE Genetics, a leading genome analysis firm based in Reykjavik, Iceland.

Last week, Dr. Andersen of Scripps Research and other scientists analyzing the outbreak in New Orleans reported that all of the samples taken from New Orleans were from the line linked back to New York. The virus swept through the area in March and has killed more than 1,000 people.

if you look at a map of the US, you'll realize it was spread from all layover cities Denver, Dallas, Atlanta and Chicago before on to NY and vice versa.

 

[jimihendrix1]

Outbreak poll: Most Americans favor continued lockdown
Only 12% of Americans say the measures where they live go too far


88% of Americans agree with Lockdown..

Regardless of what the conspiracy theorists say, only 12% of Americans DIsagree with the lockdown, and a huge majority also think the protesters are full of shit. Carrying their Confederate Flags, and Nazi flags, and firearms.

To me these people need to go back to Kindergarten, and start over.

People want the lockdown. Get over it.

 

[jimihendrix1]

if you look at a map of the US, you'll realize it was spread from all layover cities Denver, Dallas, Atlanta and Chicago before on to NY and vice versa.

Scientists say the vast majority spread it from NYC, from flights from Europe.

Wave of infections from New York travelers swept through US before city began social distancing measures |
MAY 07, 2020 | 10:02 AM

New York City’s coronavirus outbreak grew so large by early March that the city became the primary source of new infections in the United States, new research reveals, as thousands of infected people traveled from the city and seeded outbreaks around the country.
The research indicates that a wave of infections swept from New York City through much of the country before the city began setting social distancing limits to stop the growth. That helped to fuel outbreaks in Louisiana, Texas, Arizona and as far away as the West Coast.
The findings are drawn from geneticists’ tracking signature mutations of the virus, travel histories of infected people and models of the outbreak by infectious disease experts.
“We now have enough data to feel pretty confident that New York was the primary gateway for the rest of the country,” said Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health.



Other scientists said that they would like to see more samples before calculating precise figures. But they agreed that New York’s prominence in seeding the national spread appears to have begun in early March, two weeks before stay-at-home orders were put in place.
“New York acted as the Grand Central Station for this virus, with the opportunity to move from there in so many directions, to so many places,” said David Engelthaler, head of the infectious disease branch of the Translational Genomics Research Institute in Arizona.
The most commonly detected viruses tied to New York have a distinct genetic signature linking them to outbreaks in Europe. Those spreading from Washington state have a signature linking them directly to China.

 

[rkymtnman]

Scientists say the vast majority spread it from NYC, from flights from Europe

but Trump said all those passengers were tested. LOL. maybe they had their temps taken but that's about it.

 

[schuylaar]

69 here and my shoulders are paying for heavy benching with small frame. RA don’t help. Seriously question the value of that exercise now, not alone on that..

all you need are bands.

 

[hillbill]

Republican Fascist Party

 

[hillbill]

I am BB, before bands.
Bought a used Bowflex about 10 years ago, and use it a lot when I can.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

Is this the thread for snorkels?

 

[jimihendrix1]

Models Project Sharp Rise in Deaths as States Reopen
An internal Trump administration report expects about 200,000 daily cases by June. The White House bars coronavirus task force officials from testifying to Congress without approval.

• Published May 4, 2020Updated May 7, 2020, 3:33 p.m. ET

A Trump administration projection and a public model predict rising death tolls.
As President Trump presses for states to reopen their economies, his administration is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of coronavirus cases and deaths over the next several weeks. The daily death toll will reach about 3,000 on June 1, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times, a 70 percent increase from the current number of about 1,750.
The projections, based on government modeling pulled together by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases a day currently.

The numbers underscore a sobering reality: The United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks to try slowing the spread of the virus, but reopening the economy will make matters worse.
“There remains a large number of counties whose burden continues to grow,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned.


The numbers underscore a sobering reality: The United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks to try slowing the spread of the virus, but reopening the economy will make matters worse.
“There remains a large number of counties whose burden continues to grow,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned.

As the administration privately predicted a sharp increase in deaths, a public model that has been frequently cited by the White House revised its own estimates, doubling its projected death toll.
The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington is now estimating that there will be nearly 135,000 deaths in the United States through the beginning of August — more than double what it forecast on April 17, when it estimated 60,308 deaths by Aug. 4. (The country has already had 75,000 deaths.
The institute wrote that the revisions reflected “rising mobility in most U.S. states as well as the easing of social distancing measures expected in 31 states by May 11, indicating that growing contacts among people will promote transmission of the coronavirus.”

The projections confirm the primary fear of public health experts: that a reopening of the economy will put the nation back where it was in mid-March, when cases were rising so rapidly in some parts of the country that patients were dying on gurneys in hospital hallways.

On Sunday, Mr. Trump said deaths in the United States could reach 100,000, twice as many as he had forecast two weeks ago. But that new number still underestimates what his own administration is now predicting to be the total death toll by the end of May — much less in the months to come. It follows a pattern for Mr. Trump, who has frequently understated the impact of the disease.