Aliens....Do You Believe?

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Kassiopeija said:
the universe is so vast chances are all galaxies may hold lower or more advanced forms of life, but we may never ever encounter them due to sheer distance.

space isnt exactly friendly to our physiology and what we observe in the distance is only possible because it radiates extreme amounts of energy.
would be hard for artificial signals to reach out much far if the proper direction isnt know. so how would we/they let us know, or see us....

that is why we need to stop destroying this planet over petty/fancy items as we may not have a plan B in the near future....
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It's a race between destroying our environment and killing each other off and we have a front row seat at the championship round! Whether we like it or not. It's pretty clear from ten thousand years of history that we humans aren't smart enough to learn from our mistakes and kick the ruling class out on its ass when it behaves in ways inimical to the future of our species. That makes us a failure and Mother Nature knows exactly how to sweep out the trash...
 
Dreaming1

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Naw, we are completely terrestrial. Same genetics as everything else here. Just another code module chained on to the sequence.
If you don't like the dramatics of our present situation here on the old rock, Idk what to tell you. Don't watch? Idk about day 1, but industrialization forward sure has had a negative impact.
I imagine if aliens arrived here today, we would have a hard time identifying that they were here. They may have a physical form unlike anything we know of.
And yes, religion reeks of "aliens," But not gods. The Akadian people of Mesopotamia. Religion that becomes Sumarian, Babylonian stuff from Iraq. Later looks a lot like the old testament. But a little different.
Check out all of the ancient art with symbols that pertain to genetics and physics. How would they know to use two snakes wrapped around a stick to represent knowledge of health? Like DNA. Snakes, eggs. Lots of mysteries contained. How would you pick these deep symbols randomly?
And...the fucking pyramids. How? Why? What?
 
Kassiopeija

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bam0813 said:
People saying no one can travel between the stars is silly. As if they have to be just like us.
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tbh even we develop plans, nuclear pulse engine, or smaller light driven craft.... we find now planets in our galactic vicinity and the super-earth planets show great potential.
we may get there at some point but we first need to proof we can successfully manage a planet in a long term otherwise history will just repeat itself elsewhere.

but one fundamental argument vs anything outside our galactic group is the physical limitation of light-speed. real tough evidence. if that falls, some big Einstein laws will fall right down, too. It's not that they don't try, they do, year after year. only to confirm it even more.
 
bam0813

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Kassiopeija said:
tbh even we develop plans, nuclear pulse engine, or smaller light driven craft.... we find now planets in our galactic vicinity and the super-earth planets show great potential.
we may get there at some point but we first need to proof we can successfully manage a planet in a long term otherwise history will just repeat itself elsewhere.

but one fundamental argument vs anything outside our galactic group is the physical limitation of light-speed. real tough evidence. if that falls, some big Einstein laws will fall right down, too. It's not that they don't try, they do, year after year. only to confirm it even more.
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What if they could tinker with that whole time space thing. Speed is based on time right? Like I said lol not a scholar just fascinated by the subject
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Kassiopeija said:
tbh even we develop plans, nuclear pulse engine, or smaller light driven craft.... we find now planets in our galactic vicinity and the super-earth planets show great potential.
we may get there at some point but we first need to proof we can successfully manage a planet in a long term otherwise history will just repeat itself elsewhere.

but one fundamental argument vs anything outside our galactic group is the physical limitation of light-speed. real tough evidence. if that falls, some big Einstein laws will fall right down, too. It's not that they don't try, they do, year after year. only to confirm it even more.
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The fun thing about relativity is that if you go fast enough, the stars are within reach- at least for those in the spacecraft.

Fun fact; they recently confirmed the presence of a THIRD planet orbiting Proxima Centauri. One of them is in the Goldilocks zone.

Yay! New worlds to conquer, exploit, pollute and destroy! The galaxy could be full of them and we could pollute them all! Aren't you excited?!
 
Dreaming1

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The only chance for space travel is time/space manipulation or phase locked quantum teleportation. Or if you happen to be an omniscient supernatural entity that exists everywhere simultaneously on every timeline, then you just actualize where you want to be.
 
bam0813

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ttystikk said:
The fun thing about relativity is that if you go fast enough, the stars are within reach- at least for those in the spacecraft.

Fun fact; they recently confirmed the presence of a THIRD planet orbiting Proxima Centauri. One of them is in the Goldilocks zone.

Yay! New worlds to conquer, exploit, pollute and destroy! The galaxy could be full of them and we could pollute them all! Aren't you excited?!
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See in a way I think this is what has happened here
 
bam0813

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Dreaming1 said:
Except the input energy cost of getting that fast is unreal. Like not really possible.
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Have you ever seen the supposed real images vid actually that show something drawing/ sucking from the sun? This made me think of that . Again we can only think in human/ terrestrial logic
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Dreaming1 said:
The only chance for space travel is time/space manipulation or phase locked quantum teleportation. Or if you happen to be an omniscient supernatural entity that exists everywhere simultaneously on every timeline, then you just actualize where you want to be.
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I disagree. We'll get to at least the nearest stars with ion drives and the like.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Dreaming1 said:
Except the input energy cost of getting that fast is unreal. Like not really possible.
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You don't need to be going 99% of the speed of light to gain relativistic effects. Also, the ships will need to recreate gravity and ion drives have the ability to operate for extremely long periods. There's lots of people already working on the tech.
 
bam0813

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It’s like big foot it’s easy to laugh and dismiss these but bottom line imo is if there is a creator and humans on earth are the best he/she/they came up with, I wonder what the creators that weren’t the class clowns have created
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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bam0813 said:
It’s like big foot it’s easy to laugh and dismiss these but bottom line imo is if there is a creator and humans on earth are the best he/she/they came up with, I wonder what the creators that weren’t the class clowns have created
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There's Neanderthal DNA in humans; proof that we fucked them into extinction.
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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bam0813 said:
Obviously not vetted or fact checked but I’m almost certain nasa has shown this.
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from the magnetic field
there is alot of plasma movement in the sun
the light created in the core takes 100000 years to get out
the corona is much much hotter than the suns surface
maybe one day we could just harness its output better
the energy is so vast, it's kind of a total waste we burn oil... when the carbon could be used for much better stuff like graphen eg a unique material
 
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