War

Roger A. Shrubber

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We will see, but something is afoot, I know about China and posted in the China thread on it. Those NATO leaders are in Kyiv for a reason, they will announce aid, but others will come too. I think they have Kyiv beyond artillery range, but not beyond rocket artillery range. Vlad might soon be very desperate and these guys are there to try and make sure he doesn't do something stupid. Tens of thousands of Russian prisoners would ruin Vlad's whole day and he might want to take it out on innocent women and children. I can assure you their fathers, brothers and sons will stop at nothing to stop the slaughter and they have lot's of help. The generals are all optimistic and so am I.

The only way to "negotiate" with Vlad is to have him by the nuts in one hand and a knife stuck in his throat with the other, it the only way to stop the mass murder.
as long as he has the launch code for 3000 nukes in his pocket, no one is going to get a hold on his balls or his neck. this is going to end up being negotiated, Ukraine will probably lose Donbas, crimea, and probably a lot of territory east of the dnieper...IF they want it to end soon. they may kick russia out completely, but it will take months, if not years, and cost a lot more lives and a lot more infrastructure damage...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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as long as he has the launch code for 3000 nukes in his pocket, no one is going to get a hold on his balls or his neck. this is going to end up being negotiated, Ukraine will probably lose Donbas, crimea, and probably a lot of territory east of the dnieper...IF they want it to end soon. they may kick russia out completely, but it will take months, if not years, and cost a lot more lives and a lot more infrastructure damage...
Oh I agree, but I think they can eject him from the country completely, including Crimea in the next month, while NATO stares him down and supply's the Ukrainians, I expect the situation around many of the cities to improve over the next week as the Ukrainians make counter attacks. They will also want to push them back near Kyiv and make the city safer and more open for international visits.
 

CCGNZ

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Vlad will also be broke soon and even if he could throw in the kitchen sink, it will be weeks before the ground dries out and he can get off the choked roads that pass through built up areas. Vlad not only had no plan B, he invaded at the worst possible time, the very being of mud season and that mud sticks like dog shit!

He did not know himself and he did not know his enemy, two fundamental mistakes that will be paid for in Russian money and treasure. Another big thing in war is the element of surprise, he never had any, we outed him before he started. I think Vlad might be in for a big surprise himself soon, from the moves I'm seeing in the news something is afoot. Ukraine has been training fresh troops and NATO equipping them with soviet arms mostly, NLAWS and stingers, they don't need 3 months of basic either. What will happen if the Ukrainians suddenly field 100 or 200K fresh troops in a fight that is in the balance? Now imagine if those troops were highly motivated and expertly lead, with a good smart plan provided by NATO experts, using NATO intelligence. The Russians are just about worn down and their logistics are stretched out and under constant attack from territorials who are shooting out the tires of trucks at a minimum. They should have had just about enough time to train significant new forces with NATO help, training multilingual armies is the main thing NATO does and they have a great deal of experience doing it in western Europe.
I've watched some video of Russian POW's,some claim that their units were actually just formed up prior to going into Ukraine,so not only were they lied to about just conducting exercises or protecting a humanitarian corridor,they actually had no experience w/their cohorts as a unit,and the Russian command expected shit like that to work? UNBELIEVABLE
 

DIY-HP-LED

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An illiterate confederate general (who founded the KKK) once described battle as "firstest with the mostest" and that is how this war is shaping up. Vlad feed his entire force into the meat grinder scrapping up people where ever they could find them, from some of the prisoner interviews. He is having trouble finding combat troops to feed in and is hiring mercenaries out of desperation. He had no plan B, it takes time to assemble forces and move them, he dare not call up the reserve and he invaded at the worst possible time. He is having well documented logistical issues and the Ukrainians are focused on making them worse and he is a very bad strategic position in the country with his forces scattered around. He is also getting checked and beaten back around western Kyiv and being constantly drained and worn down. The Ukrainians have almost equal forces in the country and are training many more with NATO help and they will get to the fight before any help that Vlad can provide will. Chinese MRE's are one thing, trucks to get them into Ukraine might be another.

I might seem optimistic, because I try to look at the problems, many times, from the Russian's perspective and even Vlad's. Try to see the world through their eyes, the problems they face and fear. Also I know about or suspect the many things the Ukrainians are doing that we don't hear about on the news, but are sometimes mentioned in the media by the generals on TV. I speculate, but that's why many are here, to speculate, discuss events and possibilities.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think they are using rockets to bombard Kyiv and not artillery guns, they are pounding the suburbs, miles away, as far as they can reach.
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Leaders of 3 European countries plan to visit Kyiv
 

mooray

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I might seem optimistic, because I try to look at the problems, many times, from the Russian's perspective and even Vlad's. Try to see the world through their eyes, the problems they face and fear. Also I know about or suspect the many things the Ukrainians are doing that we don't hear about on the news, but are sometimes mentioned in the media by the generals on TV. I speculate, but that's why many are here, to speculate, discuss events and possibilities.
This is a requirement of social problem solving, but it's pretty rare to see these days.
 

printer

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NATO War Games Drill Massing 50 Warships, 30K Troops on Russia's Border
A planned NATO exercise with about 30,000 troops from more than 25 countries from Europe and North America began in northern Norway on Monday.

NATO said that the drill, named Cold Response that includes 200 aircraft and 50 vessels, was “not linked to Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified invasion of Ukraine.”

The drill in NATO-member Norway, which shares a nearly 200-kilometer (124-mile) land border with Russia, will be held just a few hundred kilometers from the Russian border and was planned long before Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine.

The exercise, just a few miles from the Russian border, was planned long before Moscow's invasion of Ukraine but its significance has now been heightened.

"This exercise is extremely important for the security of Norway and its allies. We will practice an allied reinforcement of Norway," Norwegian Defence Minister Odd Roger Enoksen.

"It is not being held because of the Russian authorities' attack on Ukraine, but given the backdrop there is a heightened significance."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Vlad will need to send his personal Drone protection truck, that protects his convoy from drone attack in Moscow, when ever he pokes his head out of the Kremlin. Looks like Uncle Sam might be painting some drones blue and yellow and handing them over or flying them themselves secretly.
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Effectiveness Of Ukraine's Drones Against Russian Forces Following Successful Attack Overnight

 
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xtsho

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Well putin is not holding back. Russia has announced sanctions against Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top US officials. donald trump and his family obviously are not targeted by the sanctions. But all you can do is laugh at Russia and they're sanctions. Nobody gives a damn. Sanction the entire world. Russia is just a weak failed state.

putin fucked up big time and his mistake will cost millions of Russian people the future they had hoped for. putin has set Russia back decades.
 

schuylaar

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I can only identify one of six. Who are they?
The bottom three are Pompeo (because it says it) Trump and Tucker.

The top three have me stumped especially if it was from the 30s. However based on the clothing the middle person is female and with the Rudy mouth I'm going with..





























Who is Eleanor Roosevelt?..What do I win Jimmy?
 
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schuylaar

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Well putin is not holding back. Russia has announced sanctions against Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top US officials. donald trump and his family obviously are not targeted by the sanctions. But all you can do is laugh at Russia and they're sanctions. Nobody gives a damn. Sanction the entire world. Russia is just a weak failed state.

putin fucked up big time and his mistake will cost millions of Russian people the future they had hoped for. putin has set Russia back decades.
I listed to his speech before invasion- he said he would change the world.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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He won over Canada
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Russia-Ukraine conflict: Zelenskyy addresses Canada's Parliament

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will address the Canadian Parliament on Tuesday as his country continues its fierce resistance to the invasion by Russia nearly three weeks ago.
 
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