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DIY-HP-LED

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Also the glaring fact that those newer artillery pieces are also “ nuclear “ capable ( tactical ) by way of simple munition changes.
Nukes will be on missiles, I think nuclear artillery went out in the 50's in America. The simple and brutal fact is, it can shoot about 5 miles further, faster and more accurately than the Russians can with conventional munitions and we've been supplying extended range and precision rounds for them by the tens of thousands and I've seen video of their use. Drones and counterbattery and fire control radars and digital networking will make all the difference. We can disperse our artillery, but to mass it they must have it wheel to wheel in groups and work out the trigonometry manually. The trouble with having it in groups wheel to wheel, is...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Poopoo Putin probably thought that Ukraine is ‘ nuclear free ‘ now that it would be a cakewalk and flowers thrown at their feet .
The conscripts Putin “ wishes “ he has for fighters are all actually Ukrainians instead - bakers / blacksmiths / farmers / teachers / students even little old ladies defeating a common enemy.

If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny.
He also is learning that nukes are an all or nothing proposition that he dare not use on a non nuclear power. Their use would involve personal suicide and the death of children and his grand children along with 90% of the Russian population. He is also learning that he and Russia are pathetically weak and so is everybody else. Now his own ass is on the line less than 3 months after starting this shit, wars have unpredictable and unintended consequences and we are seeing the principle in action.
 

Budzbuddha

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Nukes will be on missiles, I think nuclear artillery went out in the 50's in America. The simple and brutal fact is, it can shoot about 5 miles further, faster and more accurately than the Russians can with conventional munitions and we've been supplying extended range and precision rounds for them by the tens of thousands and I've seen video of their use. Drones and counterbattery and fire control radars and digital networking will make all the difference. We can disperse our artillery, but to mass it they must have it wheel to wheel in groups and work out the trigonometry manually. The trouble with having it in groups wheel to wheel, is...
True , but now with even more flexibility on the battlefield it would be asinine for the ORCS to think Ukraine would still be in a weaker position.
Artillery could still up the ante with even higher yielding explosives like the EXCALIBUR sat guided shells. Ukrainian surveillance out classes any Russian attempts.
 

Budzbuddha

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Russian achievements in battle -

Tanks - pretty much zero ( hence the Z )
Fighter Jets - Skeet shot / crash and burn
Jamming Tech - “ fell off truck “ / abandoned
Cruise missile - great for blind shooting / most impacted and dudded out in various locations / semi intact
Vacuum bombs - minor use alleged / probably abandoned
Drone Tech - surprisingly weak / patchwork parts / duct tape
Logistical Support - extremely poor / expired rations / vehicle maintenance / protective gear
Warships - pretty much the same ZED DEATH as tanks …. End up becoming new artificial reef for the fishes

Honorable Mention - making Mud Patties in highly radioactive soil and stealing highly charged cobalt samples .

Trains with Refrigerated Cars - Russian popsicles ready for shipment to Moscow

Pretty sure there’s not gonna be a medal ceremony in Russia.

Feel free to add to lineup if I missed something.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russia estimated to have lost a third of its ground combat force in Ukraine - BBC News

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Britain's Ministry of Defence says Russia has lost about a third of its ground combat force since the war began in Ukraine at the end of February.

The Russian invasion has been hampered by stiff Ukrainian resistance and logistical issues.

Nato secretary general Jens Stoltenberg also said Russia's war in Ukraine is not going to plan and that its attempt to capture the eastern Donbas region has "stalled".

"They failed to take Kyiv, they are pulling back from around Kharkiv, their major offensive in Donbas has stalled. Russia is not achieving its strategic objectives," he said.

Stoltenberg added that Ukraine could win the conflict.
 

Budzbuddha

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Just supposing - if one of the Docs or Anesthesiologists might “ accidentally “ use what poopoo used on Chechen rebels in early 2000’s -
Carfentanil ( aerosolized fentanyl derivative ) mixed with inhalational anesthetic, such as halothane.

Then it’s…. Goodnight Moon.



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printer

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The Americans have nuke systems in Europe that could hit Moscow if a base in north east Ukraine is established. Maybe Putin had that in mind when he invaded. As to why Putin did not invade while Trump was in office? Could be that these missiles were not employed until after the election?

Army Revives Cold War Nuclear Missile Unit To Deploy New Long-Range Weapons In Europe
56th Artillery Command’s return to Germany after 30 years reflects how critical ground-launched missiles would be in any future conflict with Russia.
Nov 8, 2021 2:42 PM

"The reactivation of the 56th Artillery Command will provide U.S. Army Europe and Africa with significant capabilities in multi-domain operations," Army Maj. Gen. Stephen Maranian, the head of the newly revived unit, said in a statement on Nov. 3. "It will further enable the synchronization of joint and multinational fires and effects, and employment of future long-range surface to surface fires across the U.S. Army Europe and Africa area of responsibility."

Maranian's mention of "future long-range surface to surface fires" is clearly a reference, at least in part, to two new missile systems the Army hopes to begin fielding in the next few years — Dark Eagle and Typhon.

Dark Eagle is the still relatively new name for the Army's Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW), which it is developing as part of a joint program with the U.S. Navy. The service is already in the process of standing up the first battery that will be equipped with these missiles, each of which carries an unpowered hypersonic boost-glide vehicle, as part of the MDTF at Joint Base Lewis-McChord.

At present, the service plans to use Typhon to fire land-based derivatives of the Navy's SM-6 missile, which has air- and missile-defense capabilities as well as the ability to strike surface targets, along with ground-launched versions of the Tomahawk land-attack cruise missile. The Army is expected to use its version of the SM-6 as a surface-to-surface ballistic missile.

Maranian's mention of "future long-range surface to surface fires" is clearly a reference, at least in part, to two new missile systems the Army hopes to begin fielding in the next few years — Dark Eagle and Typhon.

The Army Just Tested Its New Ballistic Missiles That Takes Aim At Previously Prohibited Ranges Oct 14, 2021
In terms of the distance of the flight, Lockheed Martin has only said that it was the "longest flight to date" and that it succeeded in "exceeding [the] maximum threshold" for the PrSM as set by the Army. An earlier test of this missile in May saw it fly approximately 400 kilometers, or around 248.5 miles, and official documents say the Army's current plan is for PrSM’s to be able to hit targets beyond that range.

There were reports earlier this week that the expectation was that the missile would travel at least 499 kilometers, or around 310 miles, in this new test flight. Alerts to airmen and mariners detailing airspace restrictions related to the impending test, which had been issued last month, do show a potential impact area that looks to stretch out to between 400 and 500 kilometers from Vandenberg.

That 499-kilometer distance is significant, as the old INF treaty had prohibited the United States and Russia from deploying ground-based ballistic and cruise missiles with ranges between 500 and 5,500 kilometers.


Seredyna-Buda, Sumy Oblast, Ukraine distance to Moscow - 6 hr 36 min (529 km)

Probably a little shorter as the crow flies and there are no toll booths to pay. So is the Ukraine conflict Trump's fault?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Also the glaring fact that those newer artillery pieces are also “ nuclear “ capable ( tactical ) by way of simple munition changes.
I don’t think nuclear artillery advanced much past the “hold my beer and watch this!” phase. Planes with smart bombs are more versatile.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Just supposing - if one of the Docs or Anesthesiologists might “ accidentally “ use what poopoo used on Chechen rebels in early 2000’s -
Carfentanil ( aerosolized fentanyl derivative ) mixed with inhalational anesthetic, such as halothane.

Then it’s…. Goodnight Moon.


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trouble is halothane effective dose is a million times that of the hot opioids. You’d have to crop-dust the enemy.
 

printer

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Finnish president says Putin took news of Finland’s plans to join NATO ‘calmly’
Finnish President Sauli Niinistö on Sunday said Russian President Vladimir Putin took the news of Finland joining the security alliance NATO “calmly.”

Niinistö, who informed the Russian leader of his decision last week in a phone call, told CNN’s “State of the Union” that Putin’s reaction during the phone call was a “surprise.”

“Altogether the discussion was very, would I say, calm and cool,” the Finnish leader said. “He didn’t repeat those threats he had earlier.”


Putin - "1,000 km to Moscow." "I have shorter things to worry about."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Update from Ukraine | The most Stupid FAIL of ruzzian Army in Ukraine


Update from Ukraine | One more Ukraine Counterattack is coming soon

 

printer

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Sweden has officially decided to join NATO
Sweden's ruling Social Democratic Party has said it has decided to work on the country's entry into NATO. At the same time, as stated in the statement, if the application is approved, the country will ask for the opportunity to "express unilateral reservations against the deployment of nuclear weapons and permanent bases" on its territory.

“At its meeting today, 15 May 2022, the board of the Social Democrats decided that the party will work to get Sweden to apply for NATO membership. Thus, the Social Democrats will seek to ensure that Sweden, if the NATO application is approved, expresses unilateral reservations against the deployment of nuclear weapons and permanent bases on Swedish territory,” the statement said .

After a long-term policy of neutrality, Sweden and Finland announced their desire to join NATO because of the Russian military operation in Ukraine. On May 14, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö told Russian President Vladimir Putin that the country would make a decision on membership in the alliance in the coming days. Finnish Foreign Minister Pekka Haavisto said that the country is likely to apply to join the alliance on Wednesday, May 18.

NATO countries generally support the decision of Finland and Sweden to join the alliance, but Turkey says that in order to join the alliance, they must stop helping the PKK and other organizations that Ankara considers terrorist. To accept new members into the alliance, the approval of all existing members is required.
US handed over 89 M777 howitzers to Ukraine
The United States has completed the transfer of a batch of M777 155-mm howitzers to Ukraine, the United States Embassy in the country has reported. Almost the entire batch of howitzers has already arrived in Ukraine - 89 pieces out of the planned 90.

“M777 howitzers in action. This is part of an $800 million aid package for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. All but one of the 90 howitzers sent by the US are now in Ukraine, many already deployed on the front lines,” the US embassy said on Facebook (banned and blocked in Russia, owned by the company Meta, recognized as extremist and banned).

The M777 is a 155 mm light towed howitzer. It can fire guided Excalibur projectiles with a firing range of up to 40 km, and a circular probable deviation from the target of 5 m. The rate of fire is 5 rounds per minute. Crew - 5-8 people. Equipped with a digital fire control system. M777, in particular, were used by the United States in armed conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Earlier, a senior Pentagon official said that 310 Ukrainian troops were trained to work with new weapons, in particular this type of howitzers. The United States began to increase the supply of weapons to Ukraine in connection with the Russian military operation on the territory of this country.
Romanian Foreign Minister and Blinken discussed the export of grain from Ukraine through Romanian ports
The United States can take out the grain blocked in Ukraine through the Romanian ports of Galati and Constanta. Romanian Foreign Minister Bogdan Aurescu discussed this issue with US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken.

“I briefly discussed with Secretary of State Blinken Romania’s efforts and plans to support the Ukrainian economy by facilitating the export/shipment of grain through the ports of Galati and Constanta, as well as possible joint international actions in this regard, in order to contribute to global food security,” Mr. Aurescu wrote. on Twitter.

Earlier, the Foreign Ministers of the G7 countries held a meeting in Germany, following which German Minister Annalena Berbock said that the world was "threatened by a severe famine" due to the Russian military operation in Ukraine, and Canadian Foreign Minister Melanie Joly said that the country was working on the issue of exporting blocked in Ukraine grain with another major exporter. Earlier, US President Joe Biden reported 20 tons of grain. He said that the United States was also looking for ways to export them.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Sweden has officially decided to join NATO
Sweden's ruling Social Democratic Party has said it has decided to work on the country's entry into NATO. At the same time, as stated in the statement, if the application is approved, the country will ask for the opportunity to "express unilateral reservations against the deployment of nuclear weapons and permanent bases" on its territory.

“At its meeting today, 15 May 2022, the board of the Social Democrats decided that the party will work to get Sweden to apply for NATO membership. Thus, the Social Democrats will seek to ensure that Sweden, if the NATO application is approved, expresses unilateral reservations against the deployment of nuclear weapons and permanent bases on Swedish territory,” the statement said .

After a long-term policy of neutrality, Sweden and Finland announced their desire to join NATO because of the Russian military operation in Ukraine. On May 14, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö told Russian President Vladimir Putin that the country would make a decision on membership in the alliance in the coming days. Finnish Foreign Minister Pekka Haavisto said that the country is likely to apply to join the alliance on Wednesday, May 18.

NATO countries generally support the decision of Finland and Sweden to join the alliance, but Turkey says that in order to join the alliance, they must stop helping the PKK and other organizations that Ankara considers terrorist. To accept new members into the alliance, the approval of all existing members is required.
US handed over 89 M777 howitzers to Ukraine
The United States has completed the transfer of a batch of M777 155-mm howitzers to Ukraine, the United States Embassy in the country has reported. Almost the entire batch of howitzers has already arrived in Ukraine - 89 pieces out of the planned 90.

“M777 howitzers in action. This is part of an $800 million aid package for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. All but one of the 90 howitzers sent by the US are now in Ukraine, many already deployed on the front lines,” the US embassy said on Facebook (banned and blocked in Russia, owned by the company Meta, recognized as extremist and banned).

The M777 is a 155 mm light towed howitzer. It can fire guided Excalibur projectiles with a firing range of up to 40 km, and a circular probable deviation from the target of 5 m. The rate of fire is 5 rounds per minute. Crew - 5-8 people. Equipped with a digital fire control system. M777, in particular, were used by the United States in armed conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Earlier, a senior Pentagon official said that 310 Ukrainian troops were trained to work with new weapons, in particular this type of howitzers. The United States began to increase the supply of weapons to Ukraine in connection with the Russian military operation on the territory of this country.
Romanian Foreign Minister and Blinken discussed the export of grain from Ukraine through Romanian ports
The United States can take out the grain blocked in Ukraine through the Romanian ports of Galati and Constanta. Romanian Foreign Minister Bogdan Aurescu discussed this issue with US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken.

“I briefly discussed with Secretary of State Blinken Romania’s efforts and plans to support the Ukrainian economy by facilitating the export/shipment of grain through the ports of Galati and Constanta, as well as possible joint international actions in this regard, in order to contribute to global food security,” Mr. Aurescu wrote. on Twitter.

Earlier, the Foreign Ministers of the G7 countries held a meeting in Germany, following which German Minister Annalena Berbock said that the world was "threatened by a severe famine" due to the Russian military operation in Ukraine, and Canadian Foreign Minister Melanie Joly said that the country was working on the issue of exporting blocked in Ukraine grain with another major exporter. Earlier, US President Joe Biden reported 20 tons of grain. He said that the United States was also looking for ways to export them.
Howitzers depend on munitions. I wonder if we sent them any Excalibur, which is a serious value-added item.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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True , but now with even more flexibility on the battlefield it would be asinine for the ORCS to think Ukraine would still be in a weaker position.
Artillery could still up the ante with even higher yielding explosives like the EXCALIBUR sat guided shells. Ukrainian surveillance out classes any Russian attempts.
It's pretty clear since Sammy supplied the gear the Ukrainians own the tactical air space for drones now and can use even commercial ones with greater freedom, plus they have also gained experience in their tactical employment. Even though Uncle Sam is supplying big military drones along with Turkey Canada and the UK, these little commercial drones dropping dirt cheap bombs have earned their place on the battlefield and the confidence of the military, for at least this war.

As I said I think artillery in this battle space is the path to victory, it ain't about quantity, it's about range, accuracy, mobility and integration with intelligence allowing it to destroy more targets in range more quickly from outside the range of their guns. Eliminate their guns and you can move on the open plains, provided you take out the guns in their tanks too. They can roll the Russians up the roads for miles at a time by out ranging them with artillery and destroying them if they stand or even if they run.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It's pretty clear since Sammy supplied the gear the Ukrainians own the tactical air space for drones now and can use even commercial ones with greater freedom, plus they have also gained experience in their tactical employment. Even though Uncle Sam is supplying big military drones along with Turkey Canada and the UK, these little commercial drones dropping dirt cheap bombs have earned their place on the battlefield and the confidence of the military, for at least this war.

As I said I think artillery in this battle space is the path to victory, it ain't about quantity, it's about range, accuracy, mobility and integration with intelligence allowing it to destroy more targets in range more quickly from outside the range of their guns. Eliminate their guns and you can move on the open plains, provided you take out the guns in their tanks too. They can roll the Russians up the roads for miles at a time by out ranging them with artillery and destroying them if they stand or even if they run.
Before the advent of munitions exhibiting terminal guidance capacity, artillery was definitely a matter of quantity. I seem to remember that this heavily informed Soviet battlefield doctrine.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Howitzers depend on munitions. I wonder if we sent them any Excalibur, which is a serious value-added item.
Yep Canada the UK and America did, along with extended range rounds. I saw videos of them being used in Ukraine too. Not just America sent munitions to Ukraine for these standard caliber weapons. With increased accuracy fewer shells are required often one will do. Most of the time it is preferable to merely damage Russian equipment, since they are poor at repairing it and more often than not abandon it for the Ukrainians to collect.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Before the advent of munitions exhibiting terminal guidance capacity, artillery was definitely a matter of quantity. I seem to remember that this heavily informed Soviet battlefield doctrine.
Times change with technology, ideas have a certain inertia like mass, old ideas don't die in these circumstances, the people who hold them do. I think the Russians in the field will fail to adapt to the new reality in a timely manner, old ideas die fast on the battlefield, as does old technology and old men!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Times change with technology, ideas have a certain inertia like mass, old ideas don't die in these circumstances, the people who hold them do. I think the Russians in the field will fail to adapt to the new reality in a timely manner, old ideas die fast on the battlefield, as does old technology and old men!
The sad thing is that 99+% of fielded Russians are at the whim of their hidebound flag-rank staff.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The sad thing is that 99+% of fielded Russians are at the whim of their hidebound flag-rank staff.
They dare not go near the front and remain ignorant of the true situation, after awhile people at the front quit listening to them. Want me to obey orders, come here personally, this might be a spoof American or Ukrainian call, BTW call when you arrive...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like the Ukrainian general staff are making their move, a more modest one than I figured, but a good one now that I think about it. They can try out their new toys in serious way here and pound the Russians in the Izyum Salient with long range artillery from 3 different directions and destroy 25 Russian BTGs, or get them running north east. Also air cover would be more difficult for the Russians here too. Cut them off and when they hit the roads in columns to retreat hit them again, drones will be circling over the salient like buzzards looking for artillery targets to strike. First destroy their defensive artillery that's been deployed to your front using superior range and accuracy, then proceed to attack where you can cut off all those BTG's south of you from their supply bases and fuel.

Not as grand as going for the big transport hub further east at Kupiansk, but deal with these 25 BTG's and they won't be at your back when you do.
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SOMETHING 'BIG' IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE AS THE BATTLE OF THE IZYUM SALIENT BEGINS || 2022

 
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