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DIY-HP-LED

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hard to have ol Lushy to be in the war without tanks......

I find it hard to believe they could talk their military into invading Ukraine, so I figure they are just taking their equipment. The colonels who will do the dying and command the units watch western TV broadcasts and know what is going on in Ukraine and are telling the lacky generals to go fuck themselves. They would rather move on Minsk and change the government and when Russia is weak enough, they just might. They tried to get them to do it a couple of time already and they refused, Vlad is near twisting Lukashenko's arm off at the shoulder to get him to invade.
 

BudmanTX

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I find it hard to believe they could talk their military into invading Ukraine, so I figure they are just taking their equipment. The colonels who will do the dying and command the units watch western TV broadcasts and know what is going on in Ukraine and are telling the lacky generals to go fuck themselves. They would rather move on Minsk and change the government and when Russia is weak enough, they just might. They tried to get them to do it a couple of time already and they refused, Vlad is near twisting Lukashenko's arm off at the shoulder to get him to invade.
i get the strange feeling Lushy is playing Pooty....i could be wrong
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i get the strange feeling Lushy is playing Pooty....i could be wrong
He is between a rock and a hard place and if Belarussian officers on the border start talking to Ukrainian officers who knows what could happen? The army will revolt, and the Russian internal security forces would be fucked. if they decided a change of government was the solution to their problems. Blowing the rail bridges into Belarus would do much to stop the Russian army, what will be left of it. Ukraine Poland and the Baltic states would immediately recognize a new government in Belarus and support it militarily if required. If the Belarus army was ordered to invade and followed orders, they would be committing suicide, if they talked it over with Ukraine, they might head in the opposite direction with the Ukrainians and Poles behind them.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I noticed the amount of pro russia bots on youtube is staggering today... I wonder if some of the people called up for service are being used for this.
Same for Twitter, they are frantic the Russian bots and trolls are very active, though it's hard to tell them apart from the MAGA republicans because they use the same script and memes, fellow fascists, I guess.
 

Budzbuddha

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Putin is definitely looking to hammer the infrastructures in ukraine thru terrorist objectives - same ol Putin as I mentioned before - angry little man flipping tables. No true military objectives … only suffering and death. He will lock in on winter time targets to further “ break “ the infrastructure the Ukrainians need - power / water / gas. More unnecessary civilian deaths is his battlefield motive. Rain death until submission ….

This is probably a new turn in the war as fighting will be from long range weapons over armor advances. The Ukrainians will need more weapon systems like NASAMS or french MAMBA - Sam/T systems like the ones sent to romania.

I think once the winter settles in - ground fighting on pootins part will become difficult as his logistical needs in battle are severely poor. No real gear upgrades / food / support / etc….. i think his conscript roll call will be more for occupation reinforcements over battle soldiers. Larger targets ( albeit civilian ) will increase.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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and in the bullshit propaganda front.......these people literally need to be dismissed, what a waist of O2....smh

After they play swan lake for a day, they will disappear with a new regime, if Vlad loses power, sooner or later they will blame it all on him. His buddies will take over and protecting him is part for the job, for now, it would be so easy to bury the blame with Vlad and leave Ukraine with him holding the bag. They would then try to get sanctions lifted, but no dice until there is real political change in Russia and the ex KGB types retire from the scene, one of Vlad cronies replacing him won't do, free and fair elections will though.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Putin is definitely looking to hammer the infrastructures in ukraine thru terrorist objectives - same ol Putin as I mentioned before - angry little man flipping tables. No true military objectives … only suffering and death. He will lock in on winter time targets to further “ break “ the infrastructure the Ukrainians need - power / water / gas. More unnecessary civilian deaths is his battlefield motive. Rain death until submission ….

This is probably a new turn in the war as fighting will be from long range weapons over armor advances. The Ukrainians will need more weapon systems like NASAMS or french MAMBA - Sam/T systems like the ones sent to romania.

I think once the winter settles in - ground fighting on pootins part will become difficult as his logistical needs in battle are severely poor. No real gear upgrades / food / support / etc….. i think his conscript roll call will be more for occupation reinforcements over battle soldiers. Larger targets ( albeit civilian ) will increase.
Bombing cities and civilians hardens resistance. It's not just a poor use of resources, it's a recruitment poster for the Ukrainian army.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Putin is definitely looking to hammer the infrastructures in ukraine thru terrorist objectives - same ol Putin as I mentioned before - angry little man flipping tables. No true military objectives … only suffering and death. He will lock in on winter time targets to further “ break “ the infrastructure the Ukrainians need - power / water / gas. More unnecessary civilian deaths is his battlefield motive. Rain death until submission ….

This is probably a new turn in the war as fighting will be from long range weapons over armor advances. The Ukrainians will need more weapon systems like NASAMS or french MAMBA - Sam/T systems like the ones sent to romania.

I think once the winter settles in - ground fighting on pootins part will become difficult as his logistical needs in battle are severely poor. No real gear upgrades / food / support / etc….. i think his conscript roll call will be more for occupation reinforcements over battle soldiers. Larger targets ( albeit civilian ) will increase.
They "lost" 1.5 million sets of winter uniforms that have been converted into a yacht FFS and will be freezing their asses around bunker wood stoves burning rubble, not on sentry duty outside at night when the special forces are penetrating their lines. The Ukrainians are getting lots of cold weather gear and can operate in winter. The Russians made the same blunder as Hitler FFS, their granddaddy's had more fucking sense. Those light combat vehicles and buggies can operate over fields of stubble that a tank would turn to mush, the Russian will be confined to the roads and any villages they didn't already level.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
yea, i have been seriously wondering about the lack of russian air strikes...the Ukrainians have paper planes compared to them.
there has been speculation that they are holding their airforce back in case of a conflict with NATO, but that doesn't seem likely to me, it would be insane to preserve your airforce for a possible attack while your ground forces are getting humiliatingly savaged.
all i can think of is that they are short good pilots? the men they thought were receiving top class flight training weren't, so their commanders could divert the funds for fuel and maintenance into their own pockets?
I think it is a stacking of factors.

One is that Nato was quick to put Manpads into Ukrainian hands, and the Ukrainians were quick to figure out their best use.

Another is that Russian airworthy asset count was a complete fiction that was unmasked by the low number of sorties and tactical successes, and the rapid loss of aircraft due not only to Ukrainian action, but to mechanical failure in flight and the absence of parts to repair damaged or grounded airframes. The embargo on semiconductors really hurt the Russians’ maintenance and repair capacity.

Another is a cultural difference. Russian airmen tend to be ground-controlled from wheels up to wheels back down. This hurts their speed if and ability to adapt[ing] to a fluid tactical situation. I don’t think Ukraine restricts their pilots like that; they fight in the Western idiom.

No doubt the high-value assets like the TU-160 are being protected both from being shot down and being worn out.

The result seems to be that the Ukrainians are denying the Russians control of the aerial battlespace, a situation that is not favoring the Russians as potent new assets are being fielded, like the German Gepard and the US HARM antiradiation AGM.

That is my very tentative take on that part of the war of surprises.
 
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