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printer

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One more step in getting their money to pay for the whole shot, we gotta be legal and such now, no law breaking, besides we already have their cash literally in our banks. ;) I really do hope Vlad has $200 billion abroad with proxies, so far, the damage to Ukraine is in the $150 billion range, so Vlad might make history as the first asshole who paid for his own war and self-destruction.
Where do you get the $150 B?

Rebuilding Ukraine after Russian invasion may cost $350 bln, experts say
Russia's invasion caused over $97 billion in direct damages to Ukraine through June 1, but it could cost nearly $350 billion to rebuild the country, a report released Friday by the World Bank, Ukrainian government and European Commission shows.

It said Ukraine had also suffered $252 billion in losses through disruptions to its economic flows and production, as well as extra expenses linked to the war, while the displacement of one-third of all Ukrainians was expected to jack up its poverty rate to 21% from just 2% before the war.

Overall, the report estimated Ukraine's reconstruction needs would reach $349 billion, as of June 1, or about 1.6 times the country's $200 billion gross domestic product in 2021.

Of that amount, $105 billion was needed in the short term to address urgent priorities, such as rebuilding thousands of damaged or destroyed schools and over 500 hospitals. It was also imperative to prepare for the upcoming, likely brutal winter by repairing homes and restoring heating, and purchasing gas.

Reconstruction in Ukraine may cost $349 billion
The cost of rebuilding Ukraine and its economy has already reached at least $349 billion (€346 billion), according to a new report jointly compiled by the World Bank, the European Commission and the Ukrainian government.

In the more than six months since Russia invaded Ukraine in late February, the country has suffered widespread destruction. "The impact of the invasion will be felt for generations, with families displaced and separated, disruptions to human development, destruction of intrinsic cultural heritage and reversal of a positive economic and poverty trajectory," the report states.

The report only covers the period up to June 1, meaning damage that has occurred in the past three months is not accounted for. It estimates that the cost of direct damage is $97 billion, with housing, transport, commerce and industry most affected.

Disruption to economic flows and production is estimated at $252 billion.

The World Bank report emphasized that while a phased approach to reconstruction over several years is critical, around $105 billion is needed in the short term to rebuild social infrastructure such as schools and hospitals, repair transport links and to prepare for possible energy shortages this winter.
 

BudmanTX

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Where do you get the $150 B?

Rebuilding Ukraine after Russian invasion may cost $350 bln, experts say
Russia's invasion caused over $97 billion in direct damages to Ukraine through June 1, but it could cost nearly $350 billion to rebuild the country, a report released Friday by the World Bank, Ukrainian government and European Commission shows.

It said Ukraine had also suffered $252 billion in losses through disruptions to its economic flows and production, as well as extra expenses linked to the war, while the displacement of one-third of all Ukrainians was expected to jack up its poverty rate to 21% from just 2% before the war.

Overall, the report estimated Ukraine's reconstruction needs would reach $349 billion, as of June 1, or about 1.6 times the country's $200 billion gross domestic product in 2021.

Of that amount, $105 billion was needed in the short term to address urgent priorities, such as rebuilding thousands of damaged or destroyed schools and over 500 hospitals. It was also imperative to prepare for the upcoming, likely brutal winter by repairing homes and restoring heating, and purchasing gas.

Reconstruction in Ukraine may cost $349 billion
The cost of rebuilding Ukraine and its economy has already reached at least $349 billion (€346 billion), according to a new report jointly compiled by the World Bank, the European Commission and the Ukrainian government.

In the more than six months since Russia invaded Ukraine in late February, the country has suffered widespread destruction. "The impact of the invasion will be felt for generations, with families displaced and separated, disruptions to human development, destruction of intrinsic cultural heritage and reversal of a positive economic and poverty trajectory," the report states.

The report only covers the period up to June 1, meaning damage that has occurred in the past three months is not accounted for. It estimates that the cost of direct damage is $97 billion, with housing, transport, commerce and industry most affected.

Disruption to economic flows and production is estimated at $252 billion.

The World Bank report emphasized that while a phased approach to reconstruction over several years is critical, around $105 billion is needed in the short term to rebuild social infrastructure such as schools and hospitals, repair transport links and to prepare for possible energy shortages this winter.
i figure the number would be about a trillion or so, for reconstruction and reperations
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Where do you get the $150 B?

Rebuilding Ukraine after Russian invasion may cost $350 bln, experts say
Russia's invasion caused over $97 billion in direct damages to Ukraine through June 1, but it could cost nearly $350 billion to rebuild the country, a report released Friday by the World Bank, Ukrainian government and European Commission shows.

It said Ukraine had also suffered $252 billion in losses through disruptions to its economic flows and production, as well as extra expenses linked to the war, while the displacement of one-third of all Ukrainians was expected to jack up its poverty rate to 21% from just 2% before the war.

Overall, the report estimated Ukraine's reconstruction needs would reach $349 billion, as of June 1, or about 1.6 times the country's $200 billion gross domestic product in 2021.

Of that amount, $105 billion was needed in the short term to address urgent priorities, such as rebuilding thousands of damaged or destroyed schools and over 500 hospitals. It was also imperative to prepare for the upcoming, likely brutal winter by repairing homes and restoring heating, and purchasing gas.

Reconstruction in Ukraine may cost $349 billion
The cost of rebuilding Ukraine and its economy has already reached at least $349 billion (€346 billion), according to a new report jointly compiled by the World Bank, the European Commission and the Ukrainian government.

In the more than six months since Russia invaded Ukraine in late February, the country has suffered widespread destruction. "The impact of the invasion will be felt for generations, with families displaced and separated, disruptions to human development, destruction of intrinsic cultural heritage and reversal of a positive economic and poverty trajectory," the report states.

The report only covers the period up to June 1, meaning damage that has occurred in the past three months is not accounted for. It estimates that the cost of direct damage is $97 billion, with housing, transport, commerce and industry most affected.

Disruption to economic flows and production is estimated at $252 billion.

The World Bank report emphasized that while a phased approach to reconstruction over several years is critical, around $105 billion is needed in the short term to rebuild social infrastructure such as schools and hospitals, repair transport links and to prepare for possible energy shortages this winter.
It was an estimate I posted in a tweet, from an international body I believe, dunno when it's dated from though, but I'll go with the higher number. It might just be for infrastructure, bridges, schools and hospitals, not sure, by the time they leave we will get a reasonable estimate, but it should also include compensation to war victims too, dead injured and unhoused. I say take as much of it as you can find and let trained Ukrainian women find it by funding an organization to hunt it down and collect it. A trillion bucks sounds about right considering what the fuckers did.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is what they will be "negotiating" with, and weapons are more appropriate than words for this fellow. If Putin's regime falls, I can see this asshole in a cage like a fucking monkey in the middle of a Kyiv public square, if he's lucky enough to make it out of Russia alive.

 

BudmanTX

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This is what they will be "negotiating" with, and weapons are more appropriate than words for this fellow. If Putin's regime falls, I can see this asshole in a cage like a fucking monkey in the middle of a Kyiv public square, if he's lucky enough to make it out of Russia alive.

yeah there is a vid up about that too, i didn't watch it, little gruesome there
 

DIY-HP-LED

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yeah there is a vid up about that too, i didn't watch it, little gruesome there
Neither did I, I usually pass on the more gruesome stuff on Twitter these days, not much is censored or moderated now. It's enough to hear about them or read about them. I don't need to witness them, somethings are appropriate and from time to time the public needs the shock to drive home the point though, like at Bucha. The victims need dignity, but they need public witness of the crimes against them too. They are carefully screening any prisoners they take for war criminals, and most would be shocked at the detail level of their knowledge about the assholes and their movements. A lot of justice will be done on the battlefield and the punishment will be death.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This FTX Russian bullshit has been flooding Twitter and Magats have started echoing it, OAN and foxnews too I assume. Tucker will have questions etc. It's pure bullshit straight out of Russia and no legitmate news source internationally has said a thing about it. However, Russians republicans and their propaganda wing are made up a scandal, flood the zone with it and those that need to believe such bullshit will retweet it and blather it here next week.

A ton of memes and other shit are flooding Twitter from Russia, which has banned twitter BTW all about the FTX scandal with the usual suspects. They must have threatened to send the trolls to Ukraine or something.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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How hard would it be to put a bridging span or two across the breach in that dam? Even repairing the remaining concrete temporarily to support it for tanks? This kind of damage is easy to repair after the fighting stops, they would dam off the area around the damage with earth and drain out the water. Surely the Russians weren't stupid enough to pull out of the area completely? Maybe the rumored retreat to the Donbas is true, as Vlad seeks to hold onto something like a tick with his head buried in. They cannot supply this area by rail anymore, the Kerch rail bridge is out of action and has been for a while and the southern coastal railroad is already under Ukrainian fire control, so they can't stay there even if they want to. This would leave the door to cutoff Crimea wide open and a road route for Russian civilians to escape over the damaged Kerch bridge.

Kherson hasn't been hit by Russian artillery for a reason, the Russians are perhaps gone from the area.

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BudmanTX

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This FTX Russian bullshit has been flooding Twitter and Magats have started echoing it, OAN and foxnews too I assume. Tucker will have questions etc. It's pure bullshit straight out of Russia and no legitmate news source internationally has said a thing about it. However, Russians republicans and their propaganda wing are made up a scandal, flood the zone with it and those that need to believe such bullshit will retweet it and blather it here next week.

A ton of memes and other shit are flooding Twitter from Russia, which has banned twitter BTW all about the FTX scandal with the usual suspects. They must have threatened to send the trolls to Ukraine or something.

russian masters are stepping up they're bullshit i see.....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Former army officer says Russia is ‘falling apart’

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"Things are falling apart very badly for the Russians. But we should not get too optimistic." Russia still has “a lot” of firepower and Ukraine should not get "carried away", former army officer Sir Simon Mayall tells #TimesRadio.
 

doublejj

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How hard would it be to put a bridging span or two across the breach in that dam? Even repairing the remaining concrete temporarily to support it for tanks? This kind of damage is easy to repair after the fighting stops, they would dam off the area around the damage with earth and drain out the water. Surely the Russians weren't stupid enough to pull out of the area completely? Maybe the rumored retreat to the Donbas is true, as Vlad seeks to hold onto something like a tick with his head buried in. They cannot supply this area by rail anymore, the Kerch rail bridge is out of action and has been for a while and the southern coastal railroad is already under Ukrainian fire control, so they can't stay there even if they want to. This would leave the door to cutoff Crimea wide open and a road route for Russian civilians to escape over the damaged Kerch bridge.

Kherson hasn't been hit by Russian artillery for a reason, the Russians are perhaps gone from the area.

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The Ukrainians are probably privy to some accurate real time intelligence on Russian Army's location via Satellite. Not much to hide behind out in those river flats.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Ukrainians are probably privy to some accurate real time intelligence on Russian Army's location via Satellite. Not much to hide behind out in those river flats.
Artillery should have been falling around Zelenskiy in Kherson when he was there, why not? Why didn't they pound it while the Ukrainians were whopping it up? Lack of ammo? Lack of positioned guns? Fear of radar directed counter battery fire. Lack of drones. Or a pull out.

If they are concentrated on the east side of the damaged dam, they will be hammered by artillery constantly. The Russians are fucked every way imaginable, if they get within 20km of the river bank with Ukrainian drones and artillery, as you said, few places to hide.
 
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