War

[xtsho]

Thoughts??..

https://www.facebook.com/reel/594376442207931

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

LOL!.. we're all fucked.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Thoughts??..

https://www.facebook.com/reel/594376442207931

Just more Russian bullshit, the magats and them have become indistinguishable from each other. Yeah, there is a vast conspiracy among the media of 50 countries, or should I say over a hundred.... A pile of horseshit that only a sucker would fall for twitter is full of the crap, most are Russian bots and they all sing the same song.

I'll keep this simple this war is about the countries who live by the rule of law enforcing international law and sometimes enforcing the law means war and this one will end when Russia is defeated in Ukraine and driven out, maybe, Vlad has many enemies.

 

[DoubleAtotheRON]

Just more Russian bullshit, the magats and them have become indistinguishable from each other. Yeah, there is a vast conspiracy among the media of 50 countries, or should I say over a hundred.... A pile of horseshit that only a sucker would fall for twitter is full of the crap, most are Russian bots and they all sing the same song.

I'll keep this simple this war is about the countries who live by the rule of law enforcing international law and sometimes enforcing the law means war and this one will end when Russia is defeated in Ukraine and driven out, maybe, Vlad has many enemies.

I wasn't siding on anything... just thought it was interesting that OAN would air that with such extreme allegations. Hard to believe anything anymore. You would have to be there to see it. Hell, I don't believe anything I hear, and about half of what I see these days.


Jaysus.. I had to edit that like 4 times.. been typing Spanish all day.

 

[OldMedUser]

China does have some historical gripes,but it's the UK they should be mad at,they are responsible for the opium dens that hobbled China w/a generation of dependency and also for their hatred of Western colonialism not the US.

To them all white people are the same and a lot of Americans are of British origin so they don't discriminate by national origins. We could all be brown people or even Asian but as long as there is money to be made the same thing would be going on.

It is totally out of hand and the drug war has long been proven a failure but those in charge just keep doing the same shit. Would rather thousands of young people die rather than invest in education, treatment or mental health care so desperately needed to end this reign of terror.

I played around with all that shit in my youth but never got wired on anything other than booze which I've stayed away from for almost 2 years now. Cigs and coffee too but those are socially acceptable, (smoking not so much these days).

 

[ANC]

Sergei Lavrov: Russian foreign minister laughed at for Ukraine war claims

Sergei Lavrov is laughed at in Delhi after saying the Ukraine war was "launched against us".

www.bbc.com

 

[Sativied]

Hard to believe anything anymore.

Not really, but that's exactly what they want. Russian (and China's) propaganda isn't about you believing a specific lie, it's to mindfuck you to a point you no longer know what to believe. It's why the lies are plenty and vary from small to exactly the opposite of reality. It's not like many incorrectly subscribe to Goebbels to accuse the other side of what they're guilty of, it's to cause people to think the truth is not what they hear and read but somewhere in the middle. Just like China is complaining about American balloons.

 

[CCGNZ]

he came damn close with the U-boats. The key diff imo is I don’t think the Chinese have such ambitions. They want Taiwan and a million square miles of the South China Sea … and on a bad day eastern Siberia (Northern Resource Area).

But all in all they want security for the Middle Kingdom first and foremost. Disclaimer: I’m not a student of China.

I hear ya,It just gives me a hollow feeling knowing that my country has offshored all our industrial might,the Ukraine war has magnified this issue,it used to be a comforting feeling in that once the US fired up the boilers of industry that we were indominitable and if a confrontation where attrition of hardware and even pop. occurs China now holds that advantage,it is notable in your point that China has not been globally agressive but they are now just gaining the ability to project power globally,so it's 50/50 I guess.

 

[CCGNZ]

You seem to think America would be at war alone with China, they would not, even Vietnam would end up as an ally. America's alliances with other nations who share values and even with some others who don't are as important to its security as its military. It will be as it is now, countries who live by the rule of law enforcing international law, liberal democracy versus despotic imperialism.

That is comforting,sometimes I don't think the US gets credit for the good it has done and tried to do inspite of our warts,it's just unnerving and hard to ignore that a country who 20yrs. ago had a joke of a navy and now they have all these modern ,shiny, capable new destroyers and frigates equipped w/superior weaponry in some cases while my nation has Aegis cruisers bordering on ancient and hasn't launched a frigate in 30 yrs. waisting time and treasure w/a failed LCS program. It's one thing to cut back it's another to squander resources on failed programs,meanwhile putting our skilled navy at disadvantages w/outdated equipment. These mistakes are now being addressed but it will take 5-10 yrs. to rectify creating a window where pretty serious vulnerabilities exist.

 

[CCGNZ]

Not really, but that's exactly what they want. Russian (and China's) propaganda isn't about you believing a specific lie, it's to mindfuck you to a point you no longer know what to believe. It's why the lies are plenty and vary from small to exactly the opposite of reality. It's not like many incorrectly subscribe to Goebbels to accuse the other side of what they're guilty of, it's to cause people to think the truth is not what they hear and read but somewhere in the middle. Just like China is complaining about American balloons.

It's a FKN disgrace that the indominatable truth("the truth sets you free") has been taken over and can be countered by using the shotgun method to confuse and tire.Who new that in 2015-16 that Trump's "FAKE NEWS" claims or K.A. Conway's "ALTERNATIVE FACTS" would spawn the ridiculous situation we have now. Instead of objectively formulating a position gathering facts from vetted news and opinion it has turned into tuning in to a medium that tells one what they WANT to hear.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

That is comforting,sometimes I don't think the US gets credit for the good it has done and tried to do inspite of our warts,it's just unnerving and hard to ignore that a country who 20yrs. ago had a joke of a navy and now they have all these modern ,shiny, capable new destroyers and frigates equipped w/superior weaponry in some cases while my nation has Aegis cruisers bordering on ancient and hasn't launched a frigate in 30 yrs. waisting time and treasure w/a failed LCS program. It's one thing to cut back it's another to squander resources on failed programs,meanwhile putting our skilled navy at disadvantages w/outdated equipment. These mistakes are now being addressed but it will take 5-10 yrs. to rectify creating a window where pretty serious vulnerabilities exist.

It's not smooth sailing for the Chinese and the number of hulls they have in the water counts little if the technology is not inside those hulls. It's like the Russians with mobiks, they have plenty of warm bodies, but they are untrained, unequipped, unsupported and unled. As I said, America would not be alone, Japan, South Korea and India would most likely be too, all are powerful countries and on the front line. Going after Taiwan would mean instant war with all of them, EU and North America too. Think more like Ukraine with plenty of enthusiastic allies as opposed to the second gulf war with few, it all depends on the cause, America had more support in the first Gulf war when Saddam invaded, than for Dubya's personal revenge as the cause of the second. NATO went to Afghanistan because of 9/11, they would not go to Iraq for the second gulf war.

 

[CCGNZ]

It's not smooth sailing for the Chinese and the number of hulls they have in the water counts little if the technology is not inside those hulls. It's like the Russians with mobiks, they have plenty of warm bodies, but they are untrained, unequipped, unsupported and unled. As I said, America would not be alone, Japan, South Korea and India would most likely be too, all are powerful countries and on the front line. Going after Taiwan would mean instant war with all of them, EU and North America too. Think more like Ukraine with plenty of enthusiastic allies as opposed to the second gulf war with few, it all depends on the cause, America had more support in the first Gulf war when Saddam invaded, than for Dubya's personal revenge as the cause of the second. NATO went to Afghanistan because of 9/11, they would not go to Iraq for the second gulf war.

Check out type 55 Destroyer,hypersonic anti-ship missiles,huge ass VLS capability, a pretty serious 10,000+ ton ship that NATO classifies as a cruiser,their type 52 is also brand new and formidable. I've also seen a video of a retired high ranking US Navy vet who visited a Chinese frigate at a port-o-call in Germany and he spoke highly of the ship's condition,readyness,and crew morale,do they have the fabled history and hard won lessons and experience of the US Navy,hell no,but these are cincerning trends. I't alway's good to have Allies and comforting not have to go it alone,it also imparts a sense of righteousness being backed up. It's heartening to see Japan shed it's gloves awakening to China's rise and aggression in the neighborhood,and they also have a naval tradition that dwarfs China's,as well as a suprisingly large,capable navy.Not sure w/India,while they are adversarial w/China,they are doing a 180 w/their trade w/Russia,classic fence sitters,fair weather friends.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Future security, Ukraine will be able to build more and better tanks than Russia, Ukraine can pay for them with natural gas, yet to be developed. It might not mean tanks for Ukraine alone in the future though, it could mean tanks for Belarus and Georgia too. Germany makes money and gets security with Ukraine as a bulwark against Russia and supplying natural gas too. The money they spend on gas will be used to defend them too.

It's not just America Russia has to worry about now, Russia being defeated in Ukraine will give the Germans a decade to rebuild their army and America and Canada will no longer need to maintain a presence in Europe.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632050220522414080

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Check out type 55 Destroyer,hypersonic anti-ship missiles,huge ass VLS capability, a pretty serious 10,000+ ton ship that NATO classifies as a cruiser,their type 52 is also brand new and formidable. I've also seen a video of a retired high ranking US Navy vet who visited a Chinese frigate at a port-o-call in Germany and he spoke highly of the ship's condition,readyness,and crew morale,do they have the fabled history and hard won lessons and experience of the US Navy,hell no,but these are cincerning trends. I't alway's good to have Allies and comforting not have to go it alone,it also imparts a sense of righteousness being backed up. It's heartening to see Japan shed it's gloves awakening to China's rise and aggression in the neighborhood,and they also have a naval tradition that dwarfs China's,as well as a suprisingly large,capable navy.Not sure w/India,while they are adversarial w/China,they are doing a 180 w/their trade w/Russia,classic fence sitters,fair weather friends.

If you'll notice, there is a lot of international dependency in arms manufacture these days and even America gets lots of military tech from allies, systems and parts. You don't want to get on the wrong side of international law these days and it will get worse in the future and even make America think twice, if ya wanna do something stupid.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

This video shows what kind of guy Kadyrov is and why he won't be missed using a few of his quotes.

PUT TO SLEEP? DID PUTIN POSIONED HIS BLOODHOUND KADYROV? || 2023

 

[CCGNZ]

If you'll notice, there is a lot of international dependency in arms manufacture these days and even America gets lots of military tech from allies, systems and parts. You don't want to get on the wrong side of international law these days and it will get worse in the future and even make America think twice, if ya wanna do something stupid.

Well if the purpose of that was to boost trade,dependency,and prevent war let's hope the latter prevails,it's now pretty clear that off shoring so much mfg. to China trading self sufficiency for cheaper goods and the presumption that China would liberalize w/new found uplifting wealth has not had the desired result.Instead we have aided greatly in creating an arrogant,repressive CCP that bullies it's neighbors and only cites International law and standards when it suits their cause. I'm even growing more convinced of malfeasance in the Covid pandemic,why would they destroy all the Wuhan wet market evidence that would exonerate them from Western lab leak theory,not to mention the heavy handed control over the supposed WHO dog and pony investigation. After a failed super repressive,cruel lockdown they now have let Covid run free and are not sharing any data concerning new variants developing there.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

If you are wondering why the Russians are freaking out and going full war mode on the internet with their useful idiots spouting peace and cutting funding to Ukraine, have a look, the Russians are. There is more in Ukraine already and more on the way, the message to Vlad is clear, leave Ukraine or die there. However, Vlad is chained to his war now like a magat is chained to Trump, another sure loser.

Hundreds of military equipment sent to Ukraine by NATO countries are concentrated in Poland

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Well if the purpose of that was to boost trade,dependency,and prevent war let's hope the latter prevails,it's now pretty clear that off shoring so much mfg. to China trading self sufficiency for cheaper goods and the presumption that China would liberalize w/new found uplifting wealth has not had the desired result.Instead we have aided greatly in creating an arrogant,repressive CCP that bullies it's neighbors and only cites International law and standards when it suits their cause. I'm even growing more convinced of malfeasance in the Covid pandemic,why would they destroy all the Wuhan wet market evidence that would exonerate them from Western lab leak theory,not to mention the heavy handed control over the supposed WHO dog and pony investigation. After a failed super repressive,cruel lockdown they now have let Covid run free and are not sharing any data concerning new variants developing there.

If they fucked up with a lab leak, they suffered the most from it and are currently dying like flies from it! No government would admit to shit like that, the international, diplomatic, legal and financial consequences would be staggering! We may never know the truth, but if they did fuck up, they should have learned their lesson, once burned on the red-hot stove they will be reluctant to lean the remaining stump on it again!

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Well if the purpose of that was to boost trade,dependency,and prevent war let's hope the latter prevails,it's now pretty clear that off shoring so much mfg. to China trading self sufficiency for cheaper goods and the presumption that China would liberalize w/new found uplifting wealth has not had the desired result.Instead we have aided greatly in creating an arrogant,repressive CCP that bullies it's neighbors and only cites International law and standards when it suits their cause. I'm even growing more convinced of malfeasance in the Covid pandemic,why would they destroy all the Wuhan wet market evidence that would exonerate them from Western lab leak theory,not to mention the heavy handed control over the supposed WHO dog and pony investigation. After a failed super repressive,cruel lockdown they now have let Covid run free and are not sharing any data concerning new variants developing there.

The international system encourages free trade to prevent global resource wars for the most part and the interdependency grew out of that and also tends to promote peace. China needs us too for more than just markets and raw materials and that makes them reluctant to go to war, it would completely wreck their economy, which is already fragile and whose size has been overestimated by almost a third. The globe is just too dependent on Taiwanese advanced microprocessors to let China invade without instant war from many allies. They would get a green light to move into central Asia and the collapsing Russian empire in the east using soft economic power. Labor is no longer cheap in China and these places have resources and cheap labor, why take over the country when you can control its economy? The path of least resistance for imperial ambitions lies in Asia, trying to control the seas to the east and take Taiwan would be a disaster for everybody, but especially for them. The more aggressive they get in the south China sea, the more hostile all those Asian tiger countries will be towards them, including Vietnam and India.

 

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