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PadawanBater

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fish601 said:
No method of dating is accurate that i know of, reason why is because the The starting conditions are unknown, and we dont know if the decay rates have always been constant. Now if we use dating methods for only a few thousand years yeah we can get pretty close

The bible doesnt say how old the earth is so we can only guess. If it was proven
to be umteen billion years old that would not hurt my faith. One thing for sure is God created it
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If no method is accurate, why does the scientific community agree on the age of things like donosaur bones, or other geological discoveries?

Also, why would the time frame for determining somethings age depend on only a few thousand years? Are you saying that because we know of the atmospheric conditions back to a few thousand years and we have to "guess" the atmospheric conditions any later than that, the farther you go the less accurate the measurement?

If the bible doesn't say how old the earth is, then why are so many Christians sold on the idea it's 6-10 thousand years old?

What created God?
 
CrackerJax

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PadawanBater said:
If no method is accurate, why does the scientific community agree on the age of things like donosaur bones, or other geological discoveries?

Also, why would the time frame for determining somethings age depend on only a few thousand years? Are you saying that because we know of the atmospheric conditions back to a few thousand years and we have to "guess" the atmospheric conditions any later than that, the farther you go the less accurate the measurement?

If the bible doesn't say how old the earth is, then why are so many Christians sold on the idea it's 6-10 thousand years old?

What created God?
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Again, apples to oranges. Science cannot be compared to Religion as a contemporary or an alternative. They are not interchangeable.

Science undergoes vigorous testing and verification, constantly. Religion is non verifiable.

Science eventually narrows out the falsehoods to an agreed upon distillation of known truth. Religion cannot be verified and no one can agree upon any one truth, since the truths are non tested.

science encourages the gathering of new knowledge, even if it contradicts all that has gone on before. Religion considers itself complete and perfect, and discourages any new knowledge which will contradict it. ( Like when the Church fought strongly against the "earth revolves around the sun" posit).

Science is built on truth. Religion is not.
 
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CrackerJax said:
Again, apples to oranges. Science cannot be compared to Religion as a contemporary or an alternative. They are not interchangeable.

Science undergoes vigorous testing and verification, constantly. Religion is non verifiable.

Science eventually narrows out the falsehoods to an agreed upon distillation of known truth. Religion cannot be verified and no one can agree upon any one truth, since the truths are non tested.

science encourages the gathering of new knowledge, even if it contradicts all that has gone on before. Religion considers itself complete and perfect, and discourages any new knowledge which will contradict it. ( Like when the Church fought strongly against the "earth revolves around the sun" posit).

Science is built on truth. Religion is not.
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Great post!
 
Brazko

Brazko

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Science is based on technological advancements in observing what already is, Religion is formulated from the observed experience/experienced, both are True...The only variant is the Interpreter
 
fish601

fish601

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PadawanBater said:
If no method is accurate, why does the scientific community agree on the age of things like donosaur bones, or other geological discoveries?

Also, why would the time frame for determining somethings age depend on only a few thousand years? Are you saying that because we know of the atmospheric conditions back to a few thousand years and we have to "guess" the atmospheric conditions any later than that, the farther you go the less accurate the measurement?

If the bible doesn't say how old the earth is, then why are so many Christians sold on the idea it's 6-10 thousand years old?

What created God?
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They all use the same test so they get same results (not allways) but it doesnt mean its accurate.

yes

I think its a gray area.. like i said the bible does not say how old the earth is we can only guess

what created god? good question go here for your answer http://www.gotquestions.org/who-created-God.html
But i think the real questions is what created earth.
Which is harder to believe earth just exist or God just exist
 
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fish601 said:
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what created god? good question go here for your answer http://www.gotquestions.org/who-created-God.html
But i think the real questions is what created earth.
Which is harder to believe earth just exist or God just exist
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:wall: i dun no wut they talkn bout on tat page but umm yea mayb thers a god:wall:
 
fish601

fish601

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CrackerJax said:
( Like when the Church fought strongly against the "earth revolves around the sun" posit).

Science is built on truth. Religion is not.
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i dont see why the church would fight against the "earth revolves around the sun" the bible doesnt teach astronomy or science.


The christian religion is built on truth :)
 
shroomer33

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g00sEgg said:
Thanks again padawan! I've started reading Billions and Billions....it's amazing.

Gonna start the God Delusion i think today...i skimmed through it a bit...it also looks very interesting.

:clap::clap:
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If you like Carl Sagan, you should really watch the Cosmos series. That was my shit back in the day. I watched every episode about 20 times. (not an exaggeration) Me and a couple of my like minded friends would trip and/or smoke and watch Cosmos for hours. Actually, the night of my first ever shroom harvest, one of my friends and I tripped balls and watched about 7 episodes of Cosmos. Granted, he melted through my bedroom floor into the kitchen downstairs, but it was fun nonetheless.
Aahhh, memories.
Sagan's Cosmos is one of the biggest reasons why I got into physics. Sagan had a huge impact on my life.
You see. I am well aware of evolutionary theory and science as a whole. I am neither stupid nor uneducated. I am a scientist and I always have been.
I just no longer remove potential conclusions that are uncomfortable. But the point of this was to say that Sagan rocked. So I will leave it at that.
Also, he was a huge pothead, which made him all the more cool.
 
shroomer33

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CrackerJax said:
A good scientist has no religious beliefs.
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Yeah. Like Newton, right?
He was a horrible scientist.

Maxwell?
Kepler?
Gauss?
Schroedinger?
Heisenberg?

What about Riemann? (one of my all time faves. Riemann was BADASS!!!!)


SO these people were bad scientists? Right.

In your line of thinking, a scientist has no religious beliefs, but "beyond your tunnel vision, reality fades like shadows into the night."

You would say that I have religious beliefs, right?
Well, I am a scientist, and I have the degrees and experience to prove it.
And many of the people I have come across (who are great scientists) as a scientist are very religious. Some way more than me.
You are speaking out of TOTAL ignorance, yet again.
 
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